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    Govt comes under pressure to lift emergency decree


    Govt comes under pressure to lift emergency decree

    • Published: 22/06/2010 at 12:00 AM
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    The Puea Thai Party has prepared an open letter calling on Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to revoke the emergency decree ahead of a by-election in Bangkok.


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    Party spokesman Prompong Nopparit said the letter, to be submitted today, will argue that the state of emergency now in force in Bangkok and 23 provinces should be lifted as the situation has returned to normal.


    Mr Prompong said the decree will prevent candidates in the July 25 by-election in Bangkok's Constituency 6 from campaigning.


    Puea Thai deputy leader Plodprasop Suraswadi said the party has not decided whether to take part in the poll.


    He said the party is looking at potential candidates such as red shirt leader Natthawut Saikua. It will announce its final decision next week on whether it will contest the by-election.


    Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban insisted the emergency rule will not affect the by-election.


    He cited the recent Bangkok district council elections, which were held while the decree was in effect.


    He shrugged off claims that the decree has discouraged tourists from visiting Thailand, saying terrorist acts and arson attacks during the red shirt rallies are to blame for the low number of visitors to the country.


    Election commissioner Sodsri Satayathum yesterday said the commission has sent a letter asking the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation to supply guidelines for election campaign activities under the emergency rule. The Election Commission wants the CRES to notify it before Friday what election-related activities will violate the decree.
    Candidates can begin registering for the by-election on Monday.
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    CRES to consider relaxing emergency decree enforcement: Suthep



    BANGKOK, June 22 (TNA) - Thai Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thuagsuban said on Tuesday the Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Situation (CRES) may relax some requirements of the Emergency Decree to facilitate the upcoming Bangkok's by-election.

    Mr Suthep, in his capacity as CRES director, made the remarks following complaints from many parties over the enforcement of the security law which may obstruct the by-election campaign.

    The by-election is scheduled to be held July 25, to replace the late Democrat MP Thiwa Ngernyuang, who died of cancer on June 11.

    The deputy premier said the Emergency Decree is needed to maintain law and order, adding that the candidates can still contest their election campaigns despite the enforcement of the special law.

    Mr Suthep, however, said due to the complaints, a CRES legal team is reviewing some regulations said to be obstacles to the by-election, pending official notification from the Election Commission concerning the matter.

    "Some regulations may be relaxed," Mr Suthep said. " The ban on gatherings of more than five people should not be a cause for concern of candidates during their election campaigns as the southern border provinces also held elections without any problems despite imposition of the law.”

    The CRES director stated the emergency decree will be lifted immediately if the agency's situation assessment confirms the country is now safe, as the centre has no intention to prolong the enforcement of the special law.

    The Thai government has enforced the State of Emergency in Bangkok since early April, followed by some other 23 provinces in the North and Northeast.

    On May 19 a curfew was imposed in Bangkok and 23 provinces due to political unrest by anti-government Red Shirt protesters. The 11-day curfew was later revoked as the situation was under control.

    The emergency decree remains in force as the government said that some Red Shirts are still attempting to incite disorder.

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    PM: Decree to be lifted in many areas



    The emergency decree would likely not be renewed in many areas when its enforcement expires on July 7, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said on Thursday.
    "The Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situations will report its assessment of the further need for the state of emergency before it expires on July 7.

    "I expect the emergency law will be revoked in many areas," Mr Abhisit said.

    The state of emergency was declared in Bangkok on April 7 and extends to 23 other provinces to deal with the anti-government protests of the red-shirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, which were dispersed by the military on May 19.

    On the government's plan to purchase Thaicom Plc from Singapore-based Temasek Holdings, the premier said there were many ways to regain Thai ownerswhip of the satellite firm.

    The government was considering three important factors - national security, economic value and the technical aspects of the orbit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    The government was considering three important factors - national security, economic value and the technical aspects of the orbit.
    I bet there are people on here who actually believe that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    Exactly - the presence of the decree does not inconvenience any regular, normal, honest working people. You can shop, party, work without encumbrance. As you said, it only affects those who are out to cause trouble.
    They might as well ban all demonstrations of more than 5 people in the US too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    demonstrations
    just a gathering will do the job no need to be demonstrating .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    demonstrations
    just a gathering will do the job no need to be demonstrating .
    Typical overreaction and you know it. Unless you are 5 or more persons with petrol bombs and slingshots in your hands it is unlikely you will get bothered.
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    it is not merely of some importance but is of fundamental importance, that justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done.
    Lord Hewart from Rex v Sussex Justices; Ex parte McCarthy:

    Seen to be Done: The Principle of Open Justice - Supreme Court : Lawlink NSW

    works BOTH ways ........................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    it is not merely of some importance but is of fundamental importance, that justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done.
    Lord Hewart from Rex v Sussex Justices; Ex parte McCarthy:

    Seen to be Done: The Principle of Open Justice - Supreme Court : Lawlink NSW

    works BOTH ways ........................
    And all that philosophy sprung from a simple motorcycle accident going to court.

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    Justice seen to be done?
    Full on!
    There is no other way of convincing anyone of anything.

    Literally walk the walk!
    Don't just talk the talk!

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    If it makes you feel any better, I will qualify my statement by saying Abhisit is a maggot, because 89+ people were killed under his leadership, he shows no responsibility for his role in it, he has no respect for peoples rights and freedom of expression, and because problems have dramatically escalated under his leadership.

    Please dont tell me you actually support this worthless piece of human waste .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc2 View Post
    If it makes you feel any better, I will qualify my statement by saying Abhisit is a maggot, because 89+ people were killed under his leadership, he shows no responsibility for his role in it, he has no respect for peoples rights and freedom of expression, and because problems have dramatically escalated under his leadership.

    Please dont tell me you actually support this worthless piece of human waste .
    There nothing better then to read a well thought out, well researched, rational critique of politician’s policies and actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mc2 View Post
    If it makes you feel any better, I will qualify my statement by saying Abhisit is a maggot, because 89+ people were killed under his leadership, he shows no responsibility for his role in it, he has no respect for peoples rights and freedom of expression, and because problems have dramatically escalated under his leadership.

    Please dont tell me you actually support this worthless piece of human waste .
    There nothing better then to read a well thought out, well researched, rational critique of politician’s policies and actions.

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    Ahh, an Abhisit supporter. So what does it feel like to scramble around, defending this scumbag ?
    Last edited by mc2; 24-06-2010 at 09:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc2 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mc2 View Post
    If it makes you feel any better, I will qualify my statement by saying Abhisit is a maggot, because 89+ people were killed under his leadership, he shows no responsibility for his role in it, he has no respect for peoples rights and freedom of expression, and because problems have dramatically escalated under his leadership.

    Please dont tell me you actually support this worthless piece of human waste .
    There nothing better then to read a well thought out, well researched, rational critique of politician’s policies and actions.

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    Ahh, an Abhisit supporter. So what does it feel like to scramble around, defending this scumbag ?
    Much much better, than it must be in your head, trying to defend a
    sociopathic, amoral, liar, megalomaniac, and funder of insurrection.

    Your only fall back position is Thaksin was once PM...
    his body count is much higher then.
    And not from one incident manufactured to create carnage for political purposes,
    which I firmly add to his body count, but from several appallingly horrible incidents, because Thaksin doesn't give a rats ass for any other human being he hasn't spawned.
    Last edited by Probosci Akimbo; 25-06-2010 at 12:10 AM.
    Everything you know is wrong. So don't sweat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Probosci Akimbo View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mc2 View Post
    If it makes you feel any better, I will qualify my statement by saying Abhisit is a maggot, because 89+ people were killed under his leadership, he shows no responsibility for his role in it, he has no respect for peoples rights and freedom of expression, and because problems have dramatically escalated under his leadership.

    Please dont tell me you actually support this worthless piece of human waste .
    There nothing better then to read a well thought out, well researched, rational critique of politician’s policies and actions.

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    Ahh, an Abhisit supporter. So what does it feel like to scramble around, defending this scumbag ?
    Much much better, than it must be in your head, trying to defend a
    sociopathic, amoral, liar, megalomaniac, and funder of insurrection.

    Your only fall back position is Thaksin was once PM...
    his body count is much higher then.
    And not from one incident manufactured to create carnage for political purposes,
    which I firmly add to his body count, but from several appallingly horrible incidents, because Thaksin doesn't give a rats ass for any other human being he hasn't spawned.
    How can such an infertile dogarse mite have such a fertile immagination.
    Obviously spent to long in the desert there.
    Take your point about the fall back position though, hard to contradict you on that one, seeing how pissed you always are you must spend a lot of time in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Probosci Akimbo View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mc2 View Post
    If it makes you feel any better, I will qualify my statement by saying Abhisit is a maggot, because 89+ people were killed under his leadership, he shows no responsibility for his role in it, he has no respect for peoples rights and freedom of expression, and because problems have dramatically escalated under his leadership.

    Please dont tell me you actually support this worthless piece of human waste .
    There nothing better then to read a well thought out, well researched, rational critique of politician’s policies and actions.

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    Ahh, an Abhisit supporter. So what does it feel like to scramble around, defending this scumbag ?
    Much much better, than it must be in your head, trying to defend a
    sociopathic, amoral, liar, megalomaniac, and funder of insurrection.
    I don't support Thaksin or Abhisit, dimwit.

    *yawn* go get some new flashcards, you lot are so predictible.

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    Namecalling ? You started it, so stop your moaning.
    Now go back to your pedanticisms in the other thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc2 View Post
    Namecalling ? You started it, so stop your moaning.
    Now go back to your pedanticismss in the other thread.
    I’m not surprised that pointing out messy little details like the fact every member of the Thai House of Representatives is democratically elected would be considered a pedanticisms to you.

    To others, it might be considered bringing some rationality and truth by telling the whole story into the discussion.


    Please post a link to where I resorted to name calling. I have on occasions stooped to not so politely pointing out that a person may not know what they are talking about, but never name calling.

    Well, I am calling you a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Please post a link to where I resorted to name calling. I have on occasions stooped to not so politely pointing out that a person may not know what they are talking about, but never name calling.

    Well, I am calling you a troll.

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    absolutely clueless

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    Wouldn't quick elections solve the problem of legitimizing Abishit's government? I don't understand why he doesn't just get himself elected properly. That'd solve all the problems and people would stop unfairly calling him a puppet. Jeez, I thought he was Eton and Oxford educated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pol the Pot View Post
    Wouldn't quick elections solve the problem of legitimizing Abishit's government? I don't understand why he doesn't just get himself elected properly. That'd solve all the problems and people would stop unfairly calling him a puppet. Jeez, I thought he was Eton and Oxford educated.
    Being Eton and Oxford educated is why he knows he is properly elected by a majority of the members of Parliament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pol the Pot View Post
    Wouldn't quick elections solve the problem of legitimizing Abishit's government? I don't understand why he doesn't just get himself elected properly. That'd solve all the problems and people would stop unfairly calling him a puppet. Jeez, I thought he was Eton and Oxford educated.
    Being Eton and Oxford educated is why he knows he is properly elected by a majority of the members of Parliament.
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    It appears that Pol the pot hit upon the other reason why some other regulars appear to constantly miss that point -- I guess what that tells us, pretty clearly, that guys like mc2, sabang, Noodles, SloppieJoe, Tom Sawyer -- are not only NOT Eton and Oxford educated, but actually lack a proper education.

    A point they will, of course contest - and while they could easily disprove it by providing their own educational qualifications, something tells me they won't...

    This, of course, explains why they support the legitimacy of uneducated trolls like Samak, or supermarket degrees like Thaksin's - it's a background and level they feel comfortable with, while a leader with an 'A' class education makes them uncomfortable.

    It's no surprise that many of the same are rejecting someone like Obama, because he's black, in charge, and has achieved more than they ever will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pol the Pot View Post
    Wouldn't quick elections solve the problem of legitimizing Abishit's government? I don't understand why he doesn't just get himself elected properly. That'd solve all the problems and people would stop unfairly calling him a puppet. Jeez, I thought he was Eton and Oxford educated.
    Being Eton and Oxford educated is why he knows he is properly elected by a majority of the members of Parliament.
    TH
    After a coup that toppled the last popularly elexted government, two elected PM's kicked out and 17 months of being bickered about he still thinks he wants to serve out the term, supported by (suposedly) bought MPs?

    That's chutzpah! Go Abishit! He must have a large informal following.

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    CRES allows campaigns for 25 Jul by-election
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    BANGKOK, 25 June 2010 (NNT) – The Center for the Resolution of Emergency Situation (CRES) has allowed candidates for the 25 July by-election to arrange election campaigns freely but in a peaceful manner under the state of emergency imposition.

    Elaborating the directions given by the CRES, Election Commission (EC) Secretary-General, Suthipol Taweechaikarn, confirmed that a public gathering of more than five people could be done to support or give morale to the election candidates while election campaigns could be organized freely.

    The secretary-general however noted that all election campaigns and related activities must end in an appropriate time without inciting unrest or breaching the constitution. He also cautioned that political speeches must not be provocative or incite people to cause unrest.

    Mr Suthipol added that election candidates could use no more than 1.5 million THB in their election campaigns under the EC regulation. He said any candidates forbidden from processing financial transactions by the CRES order could seek an exemption from the Army Chief, General Anupong Paochinda.

    The by-election will be organized on 25 July 2010 in Bangkok’s constituency 6 to succeed late Democrat MP, Tiva Ngernyuang. The ruling Democrat Party, the opposition Puea Thai Party, and the New Politics Party of the People’s Alliance for Democracy will send candidates to vie for the vacant seat.

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    The emergency decree is being used as a tool to "destroy political dissent and democracy", said Somyos Pruek-sakasemsuk, a key red-shirt member and editor who was detained for three weeks under the law.

    Calling it "mafia law", Somyos said there were still 400 more people - some as old as 70 - being detained with very little information known about their condition. Most are unlikely to be proven as "terrorists" as alleged by the Abhisit Vejjajiva government, he said. The red-shirt supporter was detained from May 24 to June 13, when the court found that there was not enough evidence to detain him. People being detained under the emergency decree are "political prisoners", though the government maintains that they are mere suspects, Somyos said.

    "I was definitely a political prisoner," he said, adding that he had no access to TV or newspapers until the last two or three days in prison. He says he had to endure scorching heat, living in a makeshift tent outdoors, surrounded by two layers of two-metre tall barbed wire at the Adisorn Army camp in Saraburi province.

    While the heat was almost unbearable, he realised that freedom was very dear to the human spirit.

    "They interrogated me on everything - though many [issues] had nothing to do with my charge," he said. He had been detained on the charge of "assembling with more than five people for political reasons", while he was distributing leaflets calling for a rally in a province that was not under emergency rule.

    Somyos insisted there were only three persons, including fellow detainee Suthachai Yimprasert, a historian at Chulalongkorn University.

    "They tried to make me confess that I received money from Thaksin Shinawatra and offered me some help in return if I stopped my political activities - such as ending the publication of the Voice of Taksin magazine [which was eventually shut down by the government]," Soyos told The Nation. "This offer is unacceptable anyhow."

    A big change in his detention came in the third week, on June 2, when - just five minutes prior to the arrival of members of the National Human Rights Commission - his makeshift 3x5-metre tent, where light was kept on all night to make sure he didn't escape, was quickly dismantled. His accommodation was upgraded to a small dorm-like room.

    Officers listened to his conversations with all visitors, including those from the rights commission.

    While hundreds detained under the law are little known figures, Somyos has a high public image and an online campaign to free him was launched by sociologist Chaiyan Ratchakoon, a former director of the Thai Studies Centre at Thammasat University. Somyos credited Chaiyan, who he does not know personally, for the pressure that eventually led to his release.

    Now out of detention and planning to challenge the government by launching a new red-shirt bi-monthly magazine called Red Power early next month, Somyos said detaining people under the emergency decree will not lead to reconciliation.

    "Reconciliation can only take place in a democratic environment. The government must accept the equality of those who have differing political views," Somyos said. He is currently exploring possible legal ways to hold the government accountable for holding him in a small tent under the scorching sun for more than two weeks.

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