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    Again, none of it can be much understood without using pesharim to understand when and where meanings change in the writings.
    Just like other historic holy texts, like the Koran, I suppose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
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    Now where did I label Sabang a hypocrite? You're just trying to stir up trouble again. You overlook the fact that it was anti-Semitic Sabang mouthing off about basements.
    Oh, so you label me an antisemite? I think you're the hypocrite.
    Hypocrite?

    Because I condemn all organized religion?

    Your antisemitic views are well known, .

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    ENT the great expert on Islam who has never read the Koran by his own admission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Again, none of it can be much understood without using pesharim to understand when and where meanings change in the writings.
    Just like other historic holy texts, like the Koran, I suppose?
    Very much so,

    Most early writings were codified to prevent the information falling into the wrong hands, such as enemies' or competitors'.

    Only initiates into the hierarchic use of those codes could read or write about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    ENT the great expert on Islam who has never read the Koran by his own admission.
    A stupid comment and a typical lie of yours, by false accusation, part of your ad hominem style of discusion, pretty useless..

    So, where did I say that I haven't read the koran?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
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    You grab some OTestament historical Judaic jingoism
    As opposed to grabbing some old Koranic jingoism?
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    C's message in the N Testament is a new edict overriding the old.
    If you find a jewish person to agree with that, congrats- you've found one of the 1% or so of messianic Jews.

    It's all claptrap to me, frankly. Bible types need argue with each other.
    WTF would I look for a Jew to agree with Xtianity?

    A bit like asking a Jew to agree with Islam, innit?

    Stupid out of place comment Sabang, pointless.

    Whether it's Jewish or Muslim. jingoism is rife in both the OT and the koran.

    They're both books for fools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
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    Islam has been an aggressive religion from the start, moderation isn't part of the creed.
    It has some stiff competition from Christianity. Look at the command to carry out ethnic cleansing or genocide from 1 Samuel (15:3).

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.
    You foster some cock-eyed views chappy.

    Trying to tar Xtians with the same brush as violent jihadist Islam won't work.

    It's all in the actions, not the words.

    There's no millions of Xtians advocating death to non-Xtians.

    There are millions of Muslims who advocate death to non-Muslims though.

    There aren't Xtian militaia roaming around murdering anyone who oppose them, but there are Muslim militia all around the world murdering anyone at all.

    Go figure that one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    There are millions of Muslims who advocate death to non-Muslims though.
    Have you got a link or a source for that claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    There's no millions of Xtians advocating death to non-Xtians.
    Surely you must get the internet in mom's basement?
    To me, they're all birds of a feather.

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    ^^ Yes, the Pew reports, go look them up.

    Around 15% (no fixed figures available) of European Muslims support violence against unbelievers, so its around 275,000,000 + who do, when you add in support for shariah law and those supporting death for apostates,

    Pakistan has more advocates for death to non-Muslims and blasphemers than most other Muslim countries.
    Last edited by ENT; 07-04-2015 at 12:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
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    There's no millions of Xtians advocating death to non-Xtians.
    Surely you must get the internet in mom's basement?
    To me, they're all birds of a feather.
    Have you taken total leave of your senses?

    Does your special channel in your Masonic lodge tell you that there's a Xtian war being waged on all non-Xtians?

    All news to me, but feel free to carry on........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Does your special channel in your Masonic lodge tell you that there's a Xtian war being waged on all non-Xtians?
    Why would Masonic lodges tell their members that? Freemasonry is not a church or a Christian organisation.

    Freemasonry is open to men of any faith, but religion may not be discussed at Masonic meetings.
    Freemasonry and Religion

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    Tell me something new.

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    Oh wow, a muslim freemason thread.

    'ere ya go-

    David Icke


    Got reptilians, satanic child abuse, & sacrifice too. Required reading for those whose parents subsidise their internet bills.

    See ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post

    A stupid comment and a typical lie of yours, by false accusation, part of your ad hominem style of discusion, pretty useless..

    So, where did I say that I haven't read the koran?
    Here's your own post posted earlier;

    Of course he hasn't, neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.

    It's in Arabic.
    Now who made the stupid comment and posted lies? Pretty useless you can't remember your own comments. Thickhead!

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    Anyway, Ent, let's bring it to a point:
    So, the lady in the OP and other Muslims who call for moderation and diversity don't fit your informed understanding of what a Muslim should be, and therefore aren't real Muslims.
    But they should be condemned and ostricised along with the others, because all Muslims follow the evil Koran.

    Is this about right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
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    A stupid comment and a typical lie of yours, by false accusation, part of your ad hominem style of discusion, pretty useless..

    So, where did I say that I haven't read the koran?
    Here's your own post posted earlier;

    Of course he hasn't, neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.

    It's in Arabic.
    Now who made the stupid comment and posted lies? Pretty useless you can't remember your own comments.
    Your childish attempt at twisting the facts failed again, boy.

    I said:
    "Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?"

    "Of course he hasn't
    , neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.
    It's in Arabic"

    Nothing said about reading it in English, as I have.
    Is that plain enough for you......boy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Anyway, Ent, let's bring it to a point:
    So, the lady in the OP and other Muslims who call for moderation and diversity don't fit your informed understanding of what a Muslim should be, and therefore aren't real Muslims.
    But they should be condemned and ostricised along with the others, because all Muslims follow the evil Koran.

    Is this about right?
    Nope.

    I don't think I said she wasn't a real Muslim.

    One's a Muslim or not.

    Muslims calling for diversity etc have come and gone over the centuries and Muslims have been killing themselves and anyone else handy over those futile allawallah beliefs, it won't make a difference until the chief allawallahs aka "the fat lady" sings.

    Yup, Muslims do in fact follow the evil koran, and Jews follow that evil twisted book of spells called the Old Testament, and Xtians follow that sado-masochistic Paulinian political system called Xtianity, all led by their phony lying hypocritical god-box dwellers called priests clerics holy men, prophets, saints and other riff-raff con-artists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Oh wow, a muslim freemason thread.

    'ere ya go-

    David Icke


    Got reptilians, satanic child abuse, & sacrifice too. Required reading for those whose parents subsidise their internet bills.

    See ya.
    Glad ya recognize yer dependency on yer ma sabang, always knew ya loved her.

    Happy reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Yup, Muslims do in fact follow the evil koran, and Jews follow that evil twisted book of spells called the Old Testament, and Xtians follow that sado-masochistic Paulinian political system called Xtianity, all led by their phony lying hypocritical god-box dwellers called priests clerics holy men, prophets, saints and other riff-raff con-artists.
    It appears that you are intolerant of religion, ENT. Is that true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    A stupid comment and a typical lie of yours, by false accusation, part of your ad hominem style of discusion, pretty useless..

    So, where did I say that I haven't read the koran?
    Here's your own post posted earlier;

    Of course he hasn't, neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.

    It's in Arabic.
    Now who made the stupid comment and posted lies? Pretty useless you can't remember your own comments.



    Your childish attempt at twisting the facts failed again, boy.

    I said:
    "Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?"

    "Of course he hasn't
    , neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.
    It's in Arabic"

    Nothing said about reading it in English, as I have.
    Is that plain enough for you......boy?

    You are the one twisting the facts trying to deny your own stupidity; you made a simple statement which you now deny. You really are the biggest bore on the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
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    Yup, Muslims do in fact follow the evil koran, and Jews follow that evil twisted book of spells called the Old Testament, and Xtians follow that sado-masochistic Paulinian political system called Xtianity, all led by their phony lying hypocritical god-box dwellers called priests clerics holy men, prophets, saints and other riff-raff con-artists.
    It appears that you are intolerant of religion, ENT. Is that true?

    Nope, I'm a happy atheist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post

    I said:
    "Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?"

    "Of course he hasn't
    , neither did you or anyone else posting on this thread so far.
    It's in Arabic"

    Nothing said about reading it in English, as I have.
    Is that plain enough for you......boy?

    You are the one twisting the facts trying to deny your own stupidity; you made a simple statement which you now deny. You really are the biggest bore on the board.
    My simple statement was that no one on this thread has read the koran in its original language, Arabic.

    You insist that I said otherwise.

    You have problems understanding simple English.

    Do try and grow up, that's a good chap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?
    English is already a problem, let alone another language

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    Quote Originally Posted by OckerRocker View Post
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    Have you actually read the Koran in it's original language?
    English is already a problem, let alone another language
    English-speaking are the real problem, though.
    A great plague on the earth.

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