Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

**thailazer** · 28-09-2014, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by tomta

Originally Posted by thailazer

Time for a roll call of tourist killers.... Hoe monsters of Koh Tao (at large) Killer cop from Pai Evil man from Krabi Fish boat killer from Koh Samui Forgotten killer from Chiang Mai (at large)

Good article in today's BP which does what you ask for, Thailazer. To protect and self-serve | Bangkok Post: news

Looks like we posted about the same time, but I didn't notice that article was from today. Getting old.......

**terry57** · 28-09-2014, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by thailazer

Time for a roll call of tourist killers....

Hoe monsters of Koh Tao (at large)
Killer cop from Pai
Evil man from Krabi
Fish boat killer from Koh Samui
Forgotten killer from Chiang Mai (at large)

One trend you see is that it took incredible pressure from outside of Thailand to get conviction in the solved cases.

Urm,

I don't need to make light of the above killings but we have had quite a few Backpackers murdered in Australia.

Ivan Milat did not fuck around and the Falconio killer has never been found.

When I was a Backpacker I felt far safer in Asia than getting around my own country.

Actually even today I feel safer in Asia than Australia. The crime here is quite alarming and getting much worse.

Only adding a comparison.

**terry57** · 28-09-2014, 07:41 PM

Regards the News reports of the murders in Australia.

Stopped last week, nothing now and all forgotten.

**terry57** · 28-09-2014, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Seems there is only three cops on the island and one was under investigation.

Regards the local Island cops on Tao.

They are basically Monkeys, When confronted with the murder scene they would not of had a clue about proper procedure and securing the Murder scene.

Simply not capable of serious and proper procedure.

When I was staying there a visiting Farang went missing after going snorkeling.

My partner and I found him wedged under some Coral two days later, So off we go to tell the Pigs we found him .

Fukers get the local carpenter to knock up a coffin then we all pile in a long tale to go retrieve him.

Pigs are drinking Mekong in the boat getting pissed up while we done the dirty work.

They did not like Dead Farangs back in the late Eighties and certainly not keyed up to sort them.

Fucker just got shot up the Chimney at the local Wat.

No electric then.

**Necron99** · 28-09-2014, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by terry57

the Falconio killer has never been found.

Err... Bug ugly fucker, been in jail for years, had a trial and everything...

**terry57** · 28-09-2014, 08:07 PM

When my Ex Thai Partner was assassinated on Koh Tao back in the early 90's his very wealthy wife offered a huge amount of money to the Pigs to bring the killer to justice.

He was murdered in broad day light with witnesses present and nobody come forward to claim the reward nor did the Pigs charge anyone.

On that little Island no one will ever say a word even if they Know who did it. If they do, they know they will also be topped at some point.

Everyone is shit scared to get involved no matter how much money is thrown their way.

Anyway, that fucker is still in the freezer behind his Mega resort which his wife now owns.

She told me they will not burn him until the killers are caught.

Looks like that fucker will be in deep freeze forever.

But what's new fuckers ? Thailand has always been like this.

Nothing new is it nor will it be the last time some whitey gets topped.

**terry57** · 28-09-2014, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

Err... Bug ugly fucker, been in jail for years, had a trial and everything...

Oh yes, sorry about that, they did get that tosser EH.

Lucky his girlfriend escaped as he would of done her as well.

Friggin dangerous over here mate innit.

**YOrlov** · 28-09-2014, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by thailazer

Time for a roll call of tourist killers....

Hoe monsters of Koh Tao (at large)
Killer cop from Pai
Evil man from Krabi
Fish boat killer from Koh Samui
Forgotten killer from Chiang Mai (at large)

One trend you see is that it took incredible pressure from outside of Thailand to get conviction in the solved cases.

Evil man from Krabi wasn't murder but rape.
Don't leave out stabbed to death Hanna Backlund, Phuket Mai Khao beach March... 15 ( beware the ides of March ) 2008.
Killer caught within days from eyewitnesses seeing him stalking the victim beforehand.
On Samui, Katherine Horton's assailants were apprehended quickly, too.

I would include in unsolved murder rolls the young women vomiting to death- Phi - Phi ( 4 ) and Chiang mai ( 3 )

**Yasojack** · 28-09-2014, 11:31 PM

Charles Sobhraj

anyone remember him?

Thailand certainly attracts loons

**BaitongBoy** · 28-09-2014, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Yes, the Red Bull heir was more manslaughter but in the west people do time for that.

Not always, they don't...If you have enough money and power, you can get off...You are wrong to assume that Thailand is the only place this happens...

And nobody was shocked when he paid very minimally for his sins...We understand the system, so quit trying to "educate" us on how Thailand works...

**BaitongBoy** · 28-09-2014, 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by terry57

But what's new fuckers ? Thailand has always been like this.

Yeah, indeed...So we don't need these fools trying to "educate" us on the way it is...

**Fozzy** · 28-09-2014, 11:53 PM

^ Every single day, all day fucking long. WE KNOW FFS!!!!

**BaitongBoy** · 28-09-2014, 11:56 PM

Heh...No shit...

**YOrlov** · 29-09-2014, 01:12 PM

I have read posts about a skinny man in shorts running, anyone have a link to the video or is it just still shots? Thanks

**Lancelot** · 29-09-2014, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by Lancelot

Yes, the Red Bull heir was more manslaughter but in the west people do time for that.

Not always, they don't...If you have enough money and power, you can get off...You are wrong to assume that Thailand is the only place this happens...

And nobody was shocked when he paid very minimally for his sins...We understand the system, so quit trying to "educate" us on how Thailand works...

I'm not assuming any thing.

Please show me one case in the West where a guy hits a cop, drags his body for a considerable distance and walks.

The Red Bull Heir and Inequality in Thailand - The New Yorker

How can I 'educate' you? You are the expert here that proclaims to every dude and his dog that you know how the system works, so no one else is allowed to give their take on what goes down. All you do is lash out and call other people fools. Man are we ever blessed to have you as our resident expert

If you don't like my posts, why do you continue to read them and insist on quoting me?

Good to know ya'll are much safer here in The Land of Smiles

According to Wiki, murder rate per 100,000 people:

Philippines 8.8
Cambodia 6.5
Laos 5.9
Thailand 5.0

USA 4.7
Canada 1.6
Australia 1.1
UK 1.0
NZ 0.9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

**Bobcock** · 29-09-2014, 01:52 PM

Forgotten the young couple who got killed in Kanchanaburi, forget the details now but they convicted the man only to let him out of the back door...?

**kmart** · 29-09-2014, 02:22 PM

Bit of an update from the BP: 3 sought for Koh Tao murders | Bangkok Post: news

**pseudolus** · 29-09-2014, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Bobcock

young couple who got killed in Kanchanaburi

Adam Lloyd and Vanessa Arscott.

Killed by a copper. Because, Fozzy, cops in Thailand are not cops but on the whole criminals. Message will keep getting repeated until fluffy wannabee thailand expats who invaribly have no idea about the country excepting your couple of weeks of holiday romance understand this and stop thinking the cops are actually trying to solve this. They are trying to close it, but not necessarily solve the crime.

**Necron99** · 29-09-2014, 04:54 PM

So, a quick recap of the suspects so far.

1. Burmese workers. Cleared after a short beating.
2. Fellow traveler. Cleared after repeated questioning
3. Mysterious guitar players. Never found.
4. Bar workers related to Headman. Cleared after questioning and alleged DNA test.
5. Son of headman. Cleared after alibi, not clear if DNA tested.
6. Farang bar worker? Misinformation?
7. Group of 8 football players drinking in AC bar

**Davis Knowlton** · 29-09-2014, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

So, a quick recap of the suspects so far.

1. Burmese workers. Cleared after a short beating.
2. Fellow traveler. Cleared after repeated questioning
3. Mysterious guitar players. Never found.
4. Bar workers related to Headman. Cleared after questioning and alleged DNA test.
5. Son of headman. Cleared after alibi, not clear if DNA tested.
6. Farang bar worker? Misinformation?
7. Group of 8 football players drinking in AC bar

Mysterious guitar players the BIB now claims were Burmese fishermen. They have seized two guitars and matched them with their Burmese owners; the third guitar has also been arrested, but the owner not yet identified.

Not sure where the three Burmese fisherman learned the 'western' music the BIB initially claimed the mystery guitar players were playing off in the shadows - perhaps they worked on a cruise ship as entertainers before deciding to become Burmese slave fishermen. Not the usual career path, but........

**Necron99** · 29-09-2014, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by Necron99

So, a quick recap of the suspects so far.

1. Burmese workers. Cleared after a short beating.
2. Fellow traveler. Cleared after repeated questioning
3. Mysterious guitar players. Never found.
4. Bar workers related to Headman. Cleared after questioning and alleged DNA test.
5. Son of headman. Cleared after alibi, not clear if DNA tested.
6. Farang bar worker? Misinformation?
7. Group of 8 football players drinking in AC bar

Mysterious guitar players the BIB now claims were Burmese fishermen. They have seized two guitars and matched them with their Burmese owners; the third guitar has also been arrested, but the owner not yet identified.

Now all they need is a drumset.

**Lancelot** · 29-09-2014, 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=Davis Knowlton;2872034]

Originally Posted by Necron99

4. Bar workers related to Headman. Cleared after questioning and alleged DNA test.
........

Dennis, according the this Bangkok Post article the relatives refused to give a DNA sample and were released.

A police source said officers had previously questioned the two men in the pictures provided by the Scot but they denied any involvement in the murder and refused to give DNA samples to the police.

As I read the article these two guys are the ones in the photo taken by the Scottish guy, after they told him he would hang that night. One if not both of those guys are related to the headman...

Scottish tourist 'can ID killers' | Bangkok Post: news

**YOrlov** · 29-09-2014, 08:09 PM

OK after reading scores of articles, viewing of 5 very graphic photographs and probably 150 pages of various discussion forums. here is my scenario of what happened
DM and HW meet for a beach tryst about 3 : 30 AM, are interrupted soon into the act, hence the condom with only her vaginal secretions, by the other party on the beach.
Persons, probably 2, come and hit DM on back of head with either hoe or stout stick, drag him off HW, rape her in turns , possibly ( hopefully for her sake) postmortem after the horrendous injuries, which explains the towel over her bady injured face.
DM remains alive, but barely and drowns when the tide washes in .

**blue** · 29-09-2014, 10:19 PM

..........

**snakeeyes** · 30-09-2014, 03:27 AM

Police release video of key person of interest in Koh Tao killings

Police investigators have released photographs and video footage of an unidentified man they believe could be a key to resolving the Koh Tao double-murder case and are asking the public to identify him

The man was caught on two security cameras near the crime scene around the time Hannah Witheridge, 23, and David Miller, 24, were bludgeoned to death on Sairee Beach on the Surat Thani province island said Pol Lt Gen Panya Mamen, commissioner of Provincial Police Region 8.

The video shows the man, wearing only shorts, walking normally on a beachside street heading toward the Ocean View Bungalows where the couple stayed, but then was seen running back about an hour later.

Witheridge and Miller were killed after leaving the AC Bar near Ocean View and the scene of their deaths.

According to Lt Gen Panya, the first CCTV camera located at Good Health restaurant, which is less than 200 metres from AC Bar, first captured the man on his way to the bungalow area at 3.45am and later at 4.49 am.

The second CCTV camera at the In Touch bungalows, about 100 metres from AC Bar, caught him between 4.48am and 4.51am.

"Police have tried to identify the man in the picture but no one knew him. But we are confident that finding this man will enable us to link all the evidence police already have and identify the culprits," Pol Lt Gen Panya said.

Lt Gen Panya said the man was a person of interest and was present near the crime scene. He urged anyone knowing or having information about him to contact Pol Lt Col Theerasak Jantarapipat via 089-780-4056...

Video captures from CCTV footage released by police of a prime "person of interest" in the Koh Tao murder investigation. Authorities are hoping the public can identify him.

Police release video of key person of interest in Koh Tao killings | Bangkok Post: news

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