Thousands to occupy Wall Street in protest

**HansuMan** · 09-01-2012, 01:02 PM

^ actually koman, you'd be surprised at how some nut-job conspiracy stuff actually makes it's way to the Grand Arbiter of All Things Real vs Fake: The TEEEE VEEEE!! And sometimes, even to the Supreme Arbiter of All Things Real vs Fake: FOX News!!

You may dismiss these 30 second ads sponsored by Remember Building 7 .org which appeared on NYC TV, because after all, they're "just ads",

But alas koman, those tin-foil-hat nut-job ads^ came to the attention of FOX News' Geraldo Rivera & Judge Napolitano, after which they had this extraordinary interview with 2 of the Remember Building 7 .org campaign's reps:

FOX News | Geraldo At Large
After seeing Remember Building 7’s ad on TV in November 2010, legendary investigative journalist Geraldo Rivera invited campaign representatives Bob McIlvaine and Tony Szamboti on his show to discuss Building 7. Geraldo concludes by saying, “I'm certainly much more open minded about it than I was, and it's because of the involvement of the 9/11 families and all these architects and engineers.”

FOX Business | Freedom Watch
Days after Remember Building 7’s appearance on Geraldo At Large, Judge Andrew Napolitano invited Geraldo on his show to discuss the Remember Building 7 campaign and Geraldo’s opinions regarding 9/11. In a radio appearance one week later Napolitano went on to say of Building 7, “It’s hard for me to believe that it came down by itself.”

^ & ^^ were aired nationally on FOX, of all places, with 2 of FOX's leading personalities expressing sympathy with the message, rather than the standard ridicule/dismissal/fake-righteous-indignation shtick!!

Additionally, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth founder Richard Gage has had several good interviews on local network-TEEEE-VEEEE affiliates, including:

Bear in mind why 9/11 is relevant to OWS:

The Failure to Investigate 9/11 Has Bankrupted America

**HansuMan** · 09-01-2012, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

Can't speak for the majority, but I don't think WTC and Pentagon attacks were government conspiracies. I think they were terrorist attacks which caused more destruction than what the terrorists themselves expected.

I like this little < 20 min vid, recently produced,

Uploaded by ae911truth on Sep 25, 2011
Why is Explosive 9/11 Evidence so Hard to Accept? Psychology Experts Explain.

You're British, right? Regardless, when you're "ready", review this 57 min documentary illustrating how the 7/7/05 London Tube bombings were also an inside job,

Uploaded by friendsofmuaddib on Apr 23, 2011
Regarding the 7/7/2005 terrorist attacks in London, let us look at the facts, and what we were told, and compare them. Then, using Ockham's Razor and common-sense, let us see what conclusions are to be drawn, so we can all understand what most likely really did happen that day.

Muad'Dib
7/7 Ripple Effect

^ think of it when you're waving 'HI' to those CCTV cameras which UK is awash in... to keep YOU SAFE, of course!

**misskit** · 09-01-2012, 02:40 PM

^I'm not British. I am an American who doesn't think anyone in the government is clever enough to pull off a disaster like that and cover it up.

There could be truth in that the public not being given all the information the government has about what happened to protect the people in the previous administration from investigation. Not information showing anyone conspired in what happened but showing how negligent and STUPID they were.

Anyway, wrong thread for this.

**Hampsha** · 09-01-2012, 03:23 PM

Some clips on the topic the occupy movement.

Busted for tweeting?

**Hampsha** · 09-01-2012, 03:26 PM

Some occupy location video streams. Most quiet.
OccupyStreams.org - Global directory of #occupy live video streams

Occupy movement develops new strategies for 2012 - Yahoo!7

**Hampsha** · 09-01-2012, 04:10 PM

The Amazing Athiest on OWS. Enjoy.

**Hampsha** · 09-01-2012, 04:24 PM

Occupy Oakland Activist May Face Three Strikes | Politics and Breaking News | Oakland, Berkeley, Bay Area & California | 92510

"The threat of life imprisonment looms for Occupy Oakland activist Marcel Johnson - better known by his alias, Khali - after a third-strike arrest during the demonstration. Having spent about 15 years incarcerated already, 38 year-old Khali said he was trying to turn his life around by distributing food to the needy at the Occupy Oakland encampment, where he was a frequent, vocal, sometimes endearing presence. On December 16 he was arrested outside City Hall for violating anti-encroachment laws — namely, for a dispute about a blanket — which normally wouldn't have warranted more than a few hours jail time. Since Khali was in fact violating his probation terms for a different case in Sacramento, he was taken to Santa Rita and made to serve some jail time in lieu of going to trial, his attorney Dan Siegel explained. There, Khali was held in solitary confinement and not given his psychiatric medications, which might explain why he got into an altercation with a peace officer — the exact circumstances of which are still widely disputed. Now, Khali faces a felony assault charge in place of his original misdemeanor. As of Friday, December 23, Khali's bail was set at $580,000, according his attorney, Dan Siegel.

"So he's basically arrested for littering, and a week later he's facing felony charges," Siegel said, in an interview on December 23. Siegel isn't representing Khali in the assault case, but he helped persuade a judge to order a medical evaluation of Khali, in the hope that it will explain the altercation. Members of the "Free Khali Committee" at Occupy Oakland claimed that Khali received no evaluation or medication for ten days after his arrest, and that he showed evidence of physical abuse on December 22, when he appeared in court for arraignment on the original misdemeanor (it's now been dwarfed by the assault case). Khali's next court date is January 9th, 9 a.m., at the California Courthouse in Pleasanton. He now faces a potential third strike, and insurmountable bail. And if the Senior Deputy District Attorney Eileen McAndrew doesn't drop the assault charge, the future looks grim, Siegel said: "[Khali] is homeless. He has no money. He has no anything.""

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There are some comments on this story/case on the original page if you are interested.

**Bettyboo** · 09-01-2012, 04:29 PM

^ & ^^

America is a strange place frequented by very strange individuals at all turns...

**misskit** · 09-01-2012, 04:35 PM

I thought The Amazing Athiest was a good rant.

**Hampsha** · 09-01-2012, 04:43 PM

He's a bit of asshole a lot of the time but most of what he says is straight to the truth.

**koman** · 09-01-2012, 06:02 PM

Well, looks like the OWS movement has arrived in Thailand. Earlier today (about 10am) I noticed a couple of dishevelled looking characters in big floppy hats, and flip flops sitting on the sidewalk near my house eating sticky rice and some awful smelling brown stuff. I approached and asked: "Are you OWS people?" They replied "Khrap Khrap."..which confirmed that they were....

They did not seem to know anything about banker bonuses, or Zionists, or corporate control of food production......but they seemed very legitimate.....

**ENT** · 09-01-2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

^I'm not British. I am an American who doesn't think anyone in the government is clever enough to pull off a disaster like that and cover it up.

There could be truth in that the public not being given all the information the government has about what happened to protect the people in the previous administration from investigation. Not information showing anyone conspired in what happened but showing how negligent and STUPID they were.

Anyway, wrong thread for this.

Your government got you fooled for starters.

**Agent_Smith** · 10-01-2012, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by misskit

I am an American who doesn't think anyone in the government is clever enough to pull off a disaster like that and cover it up.

You're probably right. Which is why the evidence points more to a few insiders and intel folks pulling this off for insurance and war profits purposes. I doubt Bush had a clue (maybe Cheney) but few, if any, regular government folks were let in on the scheme. Only of a handful of executives and maybe one or two government types probably know the real truth (certainly the owner of the towers knows).

**Hampsha** · 10-01-2012, 05:03 AM

American Dialect Society names ‘Occupy’ word of the year for 2011 | The Raw Story

Police club young woman riding bike at Oakland protest | The Raw Story

This girl's story of treatment by the police is interesting and shocking if true.

**Hampsha** · 10-01-2012, 05:16 AM

Pretty good video here...

**ENT** · 10-01-2012, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

Originally Posted by misskit

I am an American who doesn't think anyone in the government is clever enough to pull off a disaster like that and cover it up.

You're probably right. Which is why the evidence points more to a few insiders and intel folks pulling this off for insurance and war profits purposes. I doubt Bush had a clue (maybe Cheney) but few, if any, regular government folks were let in on the scheme. Only of a handful of executives and maybe one or two government types probably know the real truth (certainly the owner of the towers knows).

Both Bush and Cheney knew, and colluded to misinform the public on the matter during interviews by the 9/11 Report commission enquirers.

**bsnub** · 10-01-2012, 06:11 PM

occupii

For Koman. Change will happen on our timetable not yours. Prepare for the game to be redefined.

**sabang** · 10-01-2012, 06:43 PM

The labor force's share of income -- or the percentage of national income -- fell to a nearly 60-year-low last quarter, according to data from the Federal Reserve bank of St. Louis. The share dropped to 57.1 percent, according to economist Nouriel Roubini, compared to an average of nearly 65 percent percent before the year 2000.

The low-level of national income that the labor force is taking home signals that though employers may be experiencing a growth in productivity, the rise in income is going towards company profits, not workers.
Labor Force's Share Of Income Plunges To Lowest Recorded Level

The effect of the financial crisis has been to accelerate downward pressure on existing wages, as well as drastically increase unemployment. Income and wealth inequality has been spiralling further as a result, this under a supposedly Democrat President.

OWS certainly have a point.

**koman** · 10-01-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

occupii

For Koman. Change will happen on our timetable not yours. Prepare for the game to be redefined.

Well Hi here snubbers...

MY timetable? I don't have one.

Change will happen regardless. It always has, and will continue to do so. In the general scheme of things however, the the overall effect of your OWS will be similar to taking a piss in the Kalahari desert in order to irrigate it. You can dampen and smell up a small patch of ground, but the Kalarahi will just continue being a slowly changing desert.....

What game are we changing anyway, and what is being redefined? Are you referring to winter camping, outdoor living, fun things to do for youthful anarchists, sex with multiple partners in a damp tent, or ???..

.. Wecome back by the way....

**koman** · 10-01-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

OWS certainly have a point...

This I can agree with. They have a point.....

**misskit** · 10-01-2012, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by koman

fun things to do for youthful anarchists, sex with multiple partners in a damp tent

(Sigh) Too bad we are no longer youthful!

**koman** · 10-01-2012, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

Originally Posted by koman

fun things to do for youthful anarchists, sex with multiple partners in a damp tent

(Sigh) Too bad we are no longer youthful!

Indeed....I never said the OWS thing was ALL bad......

**bsnub** · 10-01-2012, 07:09 PM

Well I am drunk tonight so will have to mix it up with you tomorrow. It is a lot of work responding to your posts. They are long winded and full of facts (old stuff and values) . I enjoyed reading about you stating that if you where an American you would be a blue dog. I can see that all the way. Well anyways Koman I think that I like what you say sometimes but it is clear that you are a old dude and that your own daughter is at risk to my views...

**koman** · 10-01-2012, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

it is clear that you are a old dude and that your own daughter is at risk to my views...

I'm not that frigging old....and I'm actually getting younger and more progressive since I found TD....

My daugher has a large picture of Margaret Thatcher on her wall..reads Janes Defence Weekly, and has started attending some kind of torchlight parades...

Oh....any you must stop getting drunk so often....you could miss the revolution if you'r not more careful...

**Hampsha** · 11-01-2012, 05:36 AM

Smalltime Occupy happening in Delaware

Full-Blown Civil War Erupts On Wall Street - Financial Elite Start Turning On Each Other | Wake Up World

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