Thread: Any doubts about Climate Change?

Originally Posted by pulvarien

Spring is late here in Victoria bc, 2 weeks or so behind last year even tho this is a record year of warmth, really?

...and on the other side of the country.....

Atlantic Canada battered by huge blizzard, record-setting snowfall



A Halifax resident begins shovelling out Thursday morning, less than 48 hours after a blizzard brought about 70 centimetres of snow to the area. Another powerful low-pressure system bringing heavy snow and strong winds made its way to the Maritimes less than two days after a record-setting nor'easter.



Quebec is having a warm spell as well.......

I do believe the idiot is starting to grasp the concept of "climate change".

the source to the claim that 97% of climate scientists believe in man made global warning.

a much heralded claim that 97 per cent of scientists believed the planet was overheating came from a 2008 master’s thesis by a student at the University of Illinois who obtained her results by conducting a survey of 10,257 earth scientists, then discarding the views of all but 77 of them. Of those 77 scientists, 75 thought humans contributed to climate change. The ratio 75/77 produced the 97-per-cent figure that global warming activists then touted.”

Lawrence Solomon: Finally it?s safe for the whistleblowers of corrupted climate science to speak out

The claim that 97% of scientists agree on climate science MIGHT be true, but I would need to know more about how it was derived to judge its credibility.

Do you think that is fair?

Originally Posted by longway

the source to the claim that 97% of climate scientists believe in man made global warning.

a much heralded claim that 97 per cent of scientists believed the planet was overheating came from a 2008 master’s thesis by a student at the University of Illinois who obtained her results by conducting a survey of 10,257 earth scientists, then discarding the views of all but 77 of them. Of those 77 scientists, 75 thought humans contributed to climate change. The ratio 75/77 produced the 97-per-cent figure that global warming activists then touted.”

Lawrence Solomon: Finally it?s safe for the whistleblowers of corrupted climate science to speak out

The claim that 97% of scientists agree on climate science MIGHT be true, but I would need to know more about how it was derived to judge its credibility.

Do you think that is fair?

No, I think you're posting more bullshit from people who know fuck all about the subject.



All of the evidence you seek is reported and documented here.

Take the time to read it, then go and beat yourself with a wet kipper for being such a dribbling moron.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/glo...termediate.htm

^ pretty decent link. Shows that even a blind spastic squirrel like you can find the occasional nut.

Originally Posted by longway

^ pretty decent link. Shows that even a blind spastic squirrel like you can find the occasional nut.

None of it is hard to find if you take your fucking head out of your arse.

^ a blind spastic squirrel shouldn't be showing off.

You and your pesky facts.

NASA - February 2017 Was Second Warmest February On Record

February 2017 was the second warmest February in 137 years of modern record-keeping, according to a monthly analysis of global temperatures by scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York.

Last month was 1.1 degrees Celsius warmer than the mean February temperature from 1951-1980. The two top February temperature anomalies have occurred during the past two years.

February 2016 was the hottest on record, at 1.3 degrees Celsius warmer than the February mean temperature. February 2017's temperature was 0.20 degrees Celsius cooler than February 2016.

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Humans causing up to two-thirds of Arctic summer sea ice loss, study confirms

Rising greenhouse gas emissions are responsible for at least half, possibly up to two-thirds, of the drop in summer sea ice in the Arctic since the late 1970s, according to new research. The remaining contribution is the result of natural fluctuations, say the authors.

The paper, published today in Nature Climate Change, confirms previous studies which show how random variations in the climate have acted to enhance ice loss caused by rising CO2.

Importantly, the authors state clearly in the paper that their work does not absolve human activity as a driver of Arctic sea ice loss. A News and Views article that accompanies the paper, by Dr Neil Swart from Environment and Climate Change Canada, adds:

“The results of Ding et al. do not call into question whether human-induced warming has led to Arctic sea-ice decline — a wide range of evidence shows that it has.”

Arctic sea ice extent is declining in every season, but particularly quickly in September, when the ice reaches its lowest extent for the year. Since the beginning of the satellite record in 1979, Arctic sea ice cover in September has decreased by around 13% per decade.

NOAA February 2017 – Second warmest recorded

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Large Sections of Australia’s Great Reef Are Now Dead, Scientists Find

The Great Barrier Reef in Australia has long been one of the world’s most magnificent natural wonders, so enormous it can be seen from space, so beautiful it can move visitors to tears.

But the reef, and the profusion of sea creatures living near it, are in profound trouble.

Huge sections of the Great Barrier Reef, stretching across hundreds of miles of its most pristine northern sector, were recently found to be dead, killed last year by overheated seawater. More southerly sections around the middle of the reef that barely escaped then are bleaching now, a potential precursor to another die-off that could rob some of the reef’s most visited areas of color and life.

“We didn’t expect to see this level of destruction to the Great Barrier Reef for another 30 years,” said Terry P. Hughes, director of a government-funded center for coral reef studies at James Cook University in Australia and the lead author of a paper on the reef that is being published Thursday as the cover article of the journal Nature. “In the north, I saw hundreds of reefs — literally two-thirds of the reefs were dying and are now dead.”

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But an Australian government study released last week found that over all, last year brought “the highest sea surface temperatures across the Great Barrier Reef on record.”

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Australia relies on the Great Barrier Reef for about 70,000 jobs and billions of dollars annually in tourism revenue, and it is not yet clear how that economy will be affected by the reef’s deterioration. Even in hard-hit areas, large patches of the Great Barrier Reef survived, and guides will most likely take tourists there, avoiding the dead zones.

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“I don’t think the Great Barrier Reef will ever again be as great as it used to be — at least not in our lifetimes,” said C. Mark Eakin, a reef expert with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, in Silver Spring, Md.

Dr. Eakin was an author of the new paper and heads a program called Coral Reef Watch, producing predictive maps to warn when coral bleaching is imminent. Even though last year’s El Niño has ended, water temperatures are high enough that his maps are showing continued hot water across millions of square miles of the ocean.

9:00pm Thai time tomorrow,......

live-stream - House Science Committee Hearing on "Climate Science"

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One of the most troubling ideas about climate change just found new evidence in its favor

Ever since 2012, scientists have been debating a complex and frankly explosive idea about how a warming planet will alter our weather — one that, if it’s correct, would have profound implications across the Northern Hemisphere and especially in its middle latitudes, where hundreds of millions of people live.

The idea is that climate change doesn’t merely increase the overall likelihood of heat waves, say, or the volume of rainfall — it also changes the flow of weather itself. By altering massive planet-scale air patterns like the jet stream (pictured above), which flows in waves from west to east in the Northern Hemisphere, a warming planet causes our weather to become more stuck in place. This means that a given weather pattern, whatever it may be, may persist for longer, thus driving extreme droughts, heat waves, downpours and more.

How about all the pollution caused by the internet? It appears that sending 30 emails a day for a year causes the same pollution as driving a car for 1000 miles.
The internet contributes 3% of the global pollution. The same amount as the airline industry.

^ Not sure those figures are right. Electricity production is responsible for about a third of CO2 emissions - server farms, whilst certainly sucking up a lot of power, are unlikely to account account for a tenth of electricity usage.

Opinion

FEB 13, 2013 @ 01:19 PM 495,922 Sell In May & Walk Away: 6 Stocks to Dump
Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis





James Taylor , CONTRIBUTOR
I am president of the Spark of Freedom Foundation.

Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta.../#35f42724c7c2

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Opinion

FEB 13, 2013 @ 01:19 PM 495,922 Sell In May & Walk Away: 6 Stocks to Dump
Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis





James Taylor , CONTRIBUTOR
I am president of the Spark of Freedom Foundation.

Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta.../#35f42724c7c2

FFS I thought we'd got away from morons quoting untrained idiots using cretinous research to support the soundbites they come out with at Heartland Institute events?

You stupid old coffin dodger, it was bullshit last time, why do you think repeating it makes you look less of a fucking fool?

James Taylor wrote an article in Forbes claiming that 2015 was not the hottest year on record: [6]

“Forget what global warming activists would lead you to believe – 2015 was not even close to the hottest year on record.

Satellite temperature readings going back to 1979 show 1998 was by far the warmest year in the satellite era, followed by 2010. 2015 comes in third. And these results are only for the period since 1979.” [6]

Slate magazine wrote a counter article, noting that “far and away, without question, and where it counts, 2015 was the hottest year on record.” The magazine explains: [18]

“So how can Taylor make this claim? Well, as usual, it’s to cherry-pick a very, very specific set of circumstances: Satellite measurements of a single layer of the atmosphere. As I (and many others) have shown, these satellite measurements are not terribly reliable over the long term, and are nowhere near as accurate as temperatures measured from the ground using thermometers.

Despite this, Taylor states, 'By contrast, temperature measurements at the Earth’s surface are less reliable,' which is just flatly wrong. Seriously. It’s just complete fertilizer.”

https://www.desmogblog.com/james-taylor

Oh look it the village idiot repeater666 with more debunked trash to post.

JMA – April 2017

The monthly anomaly of the global average surface temperature in April 2017 (i.e. the average of the near-surface air temperature over land and the SST) was +0.38°C above the 1981-2010 average (+0.77°C above the 20th century average), and was the 2nd warmest since 1891. On a longer time scale, global average surface temperatures have risen at a rate of about 0.76°C per century.

Five Warmest Years (Anomalies)

1st. 2016 (+0.54°C), 2nd. 2017 (+0.38°C), 3rd. 2014,1998 (+0.31°C), 5th. 2015 (+0.30°C)

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NASA - April 2017 (second warmest recorded)

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NOAA – April 2017 (second warmest recorded)

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Copernicus – April 2017

April 2017 extended the spell of exceptional global warmth that has now lasted since mid-2015. Although the global temperature anomaly peaked in February 2016 and declined steadily until June that year, it rose again in July and August, and has remained high since. February and March 2017 were the most anomalous months since April 2016. April 2017 was less extreme, but still:

• 0.51 degrees C warmer than the average April from 1981-2010;
• the second warmest April on record;
• 0.18 degrees C cooler than April 2016.

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Glacier National Park Is Losing Its Glaciers

Of the 150 glaciers that existed it the park in the late 19th century, only 26 remain.

The loss of glaciers potentially affects not just tourism to the park, which hit a record 2.9 million visitors last year, but also local ecosystems that depend on the summer release of glacial meltwater.

The pristine, 1 million-acre park sits along the border with Canada in Montana and has long been a poster child for climate change in U.S. national parks. Side-by-side photo comparisons show in the starkest terms just how far some glaciers have retreated, with some only reduced to small nubs of ice.

The retreat has happened as temperatures in the region have risen by 1.5°F since 1895 as heat-trapping greenhouse gases have continued to accumulate in the atmosphere.

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Alaska’s thawing soils are now pouring carbon dioxide into the air

The new study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggests that frozen northern soils — often called permafrost — are unleashing an increasing amount of carbon dioxide into the air as they thaw in summer or subsequently fail to refreeze as they once did, particularly in late fall and early winter.

“Over a large area, we’re seeing a substantial increase in the amount of CO2 that’s coming out in the fall,” said Roisin Commane, a Harvard atmospheric scientist who is the lead author of the study. The research was published by 19 authors from a variety of institutions, including NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The study, based on aircraft measurements of carbon dioxide and methane and tower measurements from Barrow, Alaska, found that from 2012 through 2014, the state emitted the equivalent of 220 million tons of carbon dioxide gas into the atmosphere from biological sources (the figure excludes fossil fuel burning and wildfires). That’s an amount comparable to all the emissions from the U.S. commercial sector in a single year.

The chief reason for the greater CO2 release was that as Alaska has warmed up, emissions from once frozen tundra in winter are increasing — presumably because the ground is not refreezing as quickly.

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The warming that has occurred over the past 160 years has not been the same everywhere. Certain regions, such as the Arctic, have warmed far more than the Southern Ocean for example. How well do our climate models represent these differences?

One way of examining the regional differences in warming is to look at the average for each latitude (or zonal mean). Instead of showing monthly values of global average surface temperature (as in some previous graphics), this shows annual values, averaged around latitude circles. Thanks to Matt England (UNSW) for suggesting this zonal mean idea.

The figure below shows the zonal mean from observations (left) and the average of many different climate models (right). The different coloured lines represent every year from 1861-2016. The dashed horizontal lines indicate the 1.5°C and 2°C global temperature targets suggested by the UNFCCC in the Paris Agreement.

No takers yet on French President Macron’s plea for climate scientists to move to France

French President Emmanuel Macron urged U.S. climate scientists during his campaign to move to France, but so far it doesn’t appear that anyone has taken him up on his offer.
Mr. Macron posted a video in February taking a swipe at President Trump on global warming and welcoming to France “American researchers, entrepreneurs, engineers working on climate change.”
“The message for you guys: Please come to France. You are welcome. It’s your nation. We like innovation. We want innovative people. We want people working on climate change, energy, renewables and new technologies,” said Mr. Macron in English. “France is your nation.”

Amazing that none have taken him up on the offer
perhaps because

the climate scientists here in the U.S. are still enjoying their academic perks, steady funding and endless media adoration. There does not seem to be too much of a reason they would want to leave.”

No takers yet on French President Macron's plea for climate scientists to move to France - Washington Times

It is still early in the day for the new frenchy prezzy.


But what I wanna know is why all the climate change alarmists are not calling for a declaration of a global enviromental emergency? Which it clearly is the case.

Petrol should be rationed immediatly...