Any doubts about Climate Change?

**RPETER65** · 02-12-2016, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Had to scrape a load of global warming off my car this morning, -3 forcast night so I guess more global warming to scrape off the windscreen tomorrow.

Yeah of course it can't possibly be warming if it gets cold in winter, eh?

You left out the first time in 54 years.

You included it because you, too, are a fucking idiot.

Newsflash: It gets cold in the winter.

News flash:record early snow tends to discount getting warmer,a bit different than it gets cold in winter.

**S Landreth** · 02-12-2016, 05:53 PM

I forgot to post whatsupwiththat’s (a science denier site) recovery graph yesterday (recovery line starts in 2015 in their graph below).

short-term noise and long-term signal

Originally Posted by S Landreth

November satellite information on the lower tropospheric temperature (not land/ocean)

From the website of the science denier Roy Spencer,……

November Temperature Up a Little from October; 2016 Almost Certain to be Warmest in 38 Year Satellite Record

The Version 6.0 global average lower tropospheric temperature (LT) anomaly for November 2016 is +0.45 deg. C, up a little from the October value of +0.41 deg. C

To see how we are now progressing toward a record warm year in the satellite data, the following chart shows the average rate of cooling for the rest of 2016 that would be required to tie 1998 as warmest year in the 38-year satellite record:

Based upon this chart, it now seems virtually impossible for 2016 to not be a record warm year in the UAH dataset.

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From the RSS site (full data/satellite graph showing increase temperature in troposphere – November 2016 not included)

And no 2016 will not be the hottest year to date just because of El Nino.

El Nino years,……..keep increasing - La Nina years,…….keep increasing - Neutral years,…….steadily increasing

Arctic and Antarctic sea ice,……

1st - Arctic

In October 2016, Arctic sea ice extent averaged 6.40 million square kilometers (2.5 million square miles), the lowest October in the satellite record. This is 400,000 square kilometers (154,400 square miles) lower than October 2007, the second lowest October extent, and 690,000 square kilometers (266,400 square miles) lower than October 2012, the third lowest.

October 2016 compared to previous years

2nd – Antarctic

After a reaching its maximum extent unusually early and then following a period of relatively unchanging overall extent, Antarctic sea ice extent started to decline in earnest. Daily sea ice extent levels have been at second lowest in the satellite record since October 20 and below the two standard deviation range. Only the 1986 austral spring extent is lower.

West Antarctic ice shelf breaking up from the inside out

A key glacier in Antarctica is breaking apart from the inside out, suggesting that the ocean is weakening ice on the edges of the continent.

The Pine Island Glacier, part of the ice shelf that bounds the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is one of two glaciers that researchers believe are most likely to undergo rapid retreat, bringing more ice from the interior of the ice sheet to the ocean, where its melting would flood coastlines around the world.

"Rifts usually form at the margins of an ice shelf, where the ice is thin and subject to shearing that rips it apart," he explained. "However, this latest event in the Pine Island Glacier was due to a rift that originated from the center of the ice shelf and propagated out to the margins. This implies that something weakened the center of the ice shelf, with the most likely explanation being a crevasse melted out at the bedrock level by a warming ocean."

Studies have suggested that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is particularly unstable, and could collapse within the next 100 years. The collapse would lead to a sea-level rise of nearly 10 feet, which would engulf major U.S. cities such as New York and Miami and displace 150 million people living on coasts worldwide.

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property owners (investors) - a warning to some. Those who live in a low lying coastal areas (a delta) or are thinking about buying (I've said it before, rent don't buy. It is a risky long term investment.),……

Homeowners are slowly growing wary of buying property in the areas most at risk, setting up a potential economic time bomb in an industry that is struggling to adapt.

Rising sea levels are changing the way people think about waterfront real estate. Though demand remains strong and developers continue to build near the water in many coastal cities, homeowners across the nation are slowly growing wary of buying property in areas most vulnerable to the effects of climate change.

Roy and Carol Baker, who now live in Sarasota, Fla., recalled trying for several months to sell their home in nearby Siesta Key in 2014. Interested buyers kept backing out of the purchase when they found out that the annual flood insurance premium was roughly $7,000, they said.

This experience will become more common, economists say, as the federal government shifts away from subsidizing flood insurance rates to get premiums closer to reflecting the true market cost of the risk.