Thread: The Libyan Crisis

Originally Posted by Mid

what I think is that your assertion of

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Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
Gadaffi, the despotic ruler he may be, was simply fighting back and asking for assistance to put an end to it.
is ridiculous .

ridiculous : Deserving or inviting derision or mockery; absurd

JJ's opinion is no more ridiculous than the media's. Your use of a derogatory statement only seeks to dispel comment on this forum and bully posters.

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Typhoon planes take off from RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire to take part in operation over Libya

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Forces loyal to Gadhafi shelling city of Misrata, #Libya, using tanks, artillery and cannons, witness says. http://on.cnn.com/hDqOjR

Originally Posted by OhOh

One country stepping up to the plate for an end to this illegal war.

So, now its a war? What happened to the No Fly Zone?

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Coalition forces have taken out most of #Libya air defense systems, Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen says. Mullen: No-fly zone effectively in place in Libya - CNN.com

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by OhOh

One country stepping up to the plate for an end to this illegal war.

So, now its a war? What happened to the No Fly Zone?

Exactly. This is about trying to get rid of Gaddafi when it appeared the spook-orchestrated 'revolution' was about to fail.

Gaddafi is indeed a nutjob and cnut of the highest order, but the uprising against him was no coincidence, nor were there others in North Africa or the Gulf. They were instigated - whether by the CIA or by the other side (e.g. Iran, Muslim Brotherhood, whomever) - I don't know. But I have a good guess. The fact that places like Bahrain see masses on the street, put down like dogs with neighbouring Saudi raghead and other forces invited in to do the dirty work - and with hardly a finger shaken at his royal raghead over there ought to ring an alarm bell that even the most tone-deaf can hear.

It was/is terribly convenient how the region "exploded" overnight, isn't it? Though we can't consider such alternative thoughts, as it will always be manipulated towards the unpopular model of nutter conspiracy theories and associated avenues. If the reality {and the absorption} of world affairs were to be uncovered to find that "they" have had their secretive hands into every sorted foreign involvement for the last 100 years....would anyone be paying attention? Probably not. Dumbing down is another specialty that they procure.

Libya Live Blog - March 20 | Al Jazeera Blogs

3:57pm

Italian officials confirm that the crew of an Italian ship have been "detained" in Tripoli. Foreign minister Franco Frattini said:

We don't know what are the intentions of armed men who seized the 11 crew members-- eight Italians, two Indians and a Ukrainian - but we cannot exclude a kidnapping.

3:55pm

More on those Gaddafi tanks entering Misurata. A resident named Sami phoned Reuters, telling them:

Two people were killed so far today by snipers. They are still on the rooftops. They are backed with four tanks, which have been patrolling the town. It's getting very difficult for people to come out.
There are also boats encircling the port and preventing aid from reaching the town.

A spokesman for the anti-Gaddafi fighters said:

There is fighting between the rebels and Gaddafi's forces. Their tanks are in the centre of Misrata ... There are so many casualties we cannot count them.

3:44pm

Last night's bombing in Libya has been condemned by the Afghan Taliban. They sent us their statement:

According to media reports, American and French forces fired more than 100 missiles last night, hitting targets in various places of Libya. They also bombed some areas and threatened to launch more missile and aerial attacks. Reports from areas hit by the invasion, say, many civilians have embraced martyrdom in the attacks. Similarly, public installations have been destroyed.

The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan strongly condemn this politically-motivated and uncalled-for intervention and adventure of the Western countries in the internal conflict of the people of Libya under the auspices of the United Nations. The consequences of such intervention certainly harm this Islamic country and the Islamic Ummah.

In the eye of the Islamic Emirate, it is a matter of pity that the situation in Libya evolved to the extent that paved the way for the anti-Islamic forces to intervene. We believe, the Western colonialists do not want a solution in this country on the basis of aspirations of the people but rather have plans to weaken this Islamic country in a war of attritions and then occupy its oil reserves through a direct invasions.

The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan calls on the people of Libya through this statement to take the initiatives of the situation in their own hands and do not let others to play with their destiny. As a Muslim people, they should know their obligation and fulfill their Islamic and national duty, in order that the internal and external enemies will not find chance to make them scapegoat for their warmongering policy. Similarly, we remind the Islamic Ummah and the rulers of the Islamic world not to remain neutral in this conflict facing the Libyan people but rather should play their role in this issue being in line with the interests of Islam and the believing people of Libya to enable this nation not only to wriggle free from the current crisis but also save itself from the tentacles of the foreign colonialism in the long-term.


The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
20.3.2011

3:34pm

Al Jazeera's Tony Birtley, reporting from Benghazi, tells us:

There's a note of apprehension here. They have been buoyed by the fact that Gaddafi's forces have withdrawn and gone down the road - but they are still fearful of the sleeper cells that are believed to remain in the city.

Though they've now been getting a helping hand from the international community, they know it's up to them to get rid of Gaddafi. Their fighters are now a bit more structured, they're looking more like a fighting force. But it could still be weeks or months before this comes to a conclusion.

They've got a long coastline under their control, and I'm sure the western powers don't have any problems with them being armed. Getting supplies in won't be too difficult - they're getting a lot of money in from Gulf countries - and their intention is to go forward from here.

3:07pm

Protesters at an anti-war rally in Los Angeles - marking eight years to the day since US-led operations against Iraq began - oppose any "US/UN war on Libya".

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Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Arab League criticizes Western strikes on Libya

Arab League criticizes Western strikes on Libya


"What has happened in Libya differs from the goal of imposing a no-fly zone and what we want is the protection of civilians and not bombing other civilians," Arab League secretary general Amr Mussa told reporters.

Then perhaps the Arab League should have used their own air force & military to carry out the no fly zone... Oh wait!!!!

Just as Gaddaffi claimed all the dead laying in the streets are enemy combatants, so are the Libyan personnel manning Air Defense network facilities...

The Arab league is pointing out that the UNSC resolution called for the protection of civilians. You may argue that this protection can only be achieved by destroying the Libyan armed forces. However if you are suggesting this is acceptable I would point out that was not agreed to at the UNSC.

Currently we have the mass murder of the Libyan government supporters by the "West". They may be driving armed vehicles, shooting rockets and guns but then so were the rebel "civilians".

There are also similar calls from the Russians.

You are now seeing the difficulties of waging a war from 10,000 feet/6,000 miles/a computer screen.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ Sarko is only doing it to suck Obama cock,

I am sure the French population is against the idea,

Obama was probably against the idea fool. Sarko is a real man.

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by socal

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by BobR

The poor oppressed people of Burma will feel much better knowing they'd get the same protection from Western Governments if only they had enough oil to make it worthwhile.

Is there anyone in Europe or the USA naive enough to think there is anything humanitarian about this?

Yep. There's plenty of naive {and ignorant} souls out there to fill this model.

Nobody likes Gadaffi, he has no friends.

knock him off.

Today's Bangkok Post has an article about how close he and the American CIA were until Obuma (or his puppet masters) suddenly turned on him. Of course so were Mubarak and Noriega.

They where close, the same way the allies where close with Stalin ww2. This is high stakes shit.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Arab League criticizes Western strikes on Libya

Arab League criticizes Western strikes on Libya

AFP March 20, 2011 10:07 AM


Arab League Secretary General Amr Mussa waves in this March 2007 photo.
Photograph by: Stringer, AFP/Getty Images

CAIRO, March 20, 2011 (AFP) - The Arab League on Sunday criticized Western military strikes on Libya, a week after urging the United Nations to slap a no-fly zone on the oil-rich North African state.

"What has happened in Libya differs from the goal of imposing a no-fly zone and what we want is the protection of civilians and not bombing other civilians," Arab League secretary general Amr Mussa told reporters.

On March 12, the Arab League urged the United Nations to impose a no-fly zone on Libya and said Moammar Gadhafi’s regime had "lost legitimacy" as it sought to snuff out a rebellion designed to oust him from power.

In the West’s biggest intervention in the Arab world since the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, US warships and a British submarine fired more than 120 Tomahawk cruise missiles into Libya on Saturday, the US military said.

French warplanes also carried out strikes.

The UN Security Council passed Resolution 1973 on Thursday authorising military action to prevent Gadhafi’s forces from attacking civilians.

Funny, a few days ago he was saying this....

Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya - CNN

"It has one goal: To protect the civilian population," Amre Moussa, the body's secretary-general said.

"We will inform the U.N. Security Council of our request to enforce a no-fly zone over Libya," Moussa said. "The U.N. Security Council should decide how it will be enforced."

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Arab League criticizes Western strikes on Libya

Arab League criticizes Western strikes on Libya

AFP March 20, 2011 10:07 AM


Arab League Secretary General Amr Mussa waves in this March 2007 photo.
Photograph by: Stringer, AFP/Getty Images

CAIRO, March 20, 2011 (AFP) - The Arab League on Sunday criticized Western military strikes on Libya, a week after urging the United Nations to slap a no-fly zone on the oil-rich North African state.

"What has happened in Libya differs from the goal of imposing a no-fly zone and what we want is the protection of civilians and not bombing other civilians," Arab League secretary general Amr Mussa told reporters.

On March 12, the Arab League urged the United Nations to impose a no-fly zone on Libya and said Moammar Gadhafi’s regime had "lost legitimacy" as it sought to snuff out a rebellion designed to oust him from power.

In the West’s biggest intervention in the Arab world since the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, US warships and a British submarine fired more than 120 Tomahawk cruise missiles into Libya on Saturday, the US military said.

French warplanes also carried out strikes.

The UN Security Council passed Resolution 1973 on Thursday authorising military action to prevent Gadhafi’s forces from attacking civilians.

This is normal for muslim scum, radical or moderate. You help them, they stab you in the back.

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Reuters: Senior U.S. official defends military action as justified by UN resolution after Arab League criticised strikes

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U.S. official: aircraft from Qatar are moving into position near Libya to participate in military action

BBC News - Libya: French jets resume sorties as coalition builds

20 March 2011 Last updated at 17:13 GMT

Libya: French jets resume sorties as coalition builds


Countries including Spain, Italy, Denmark and Norway are joining the operation

French jets have begun a second day of operations over Libya to enforce a no-fly zone against Col Muammar Gaddafi's forces.

The 15 planes patrolled Libyan airspace but did not open fire because they met no resistance, a spokesman said.

France also says Qatar is to about to deploy four planes to the operation.

The move would make Qatar the first Arab country to play an active part in the campaign against Col Gaddafi, who has been battling a month-long revolt.



(a lot more at the link, much of it already posted in earlier reports...)

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US officials say more strikes on Libya expected but they are working to shift control of operation to the coalition within days - Reuters

Notice the Arab League suddenly saying "No, we didn't mean that, we just wanted a no fly zone!".

Apart from Qatar.

The utter twats.

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UK Foreign Office spokesman: Unlike Qadhafi, the coalition is not attacking civilians.

UK Foreign Office spokesman: The UN resolution authorises all necessary measures to protect the Libyan people.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

The UN Security Council passed Resolution 1973 on Thursday authorising military action to prevent Gadhafi’s forces from attacking civilians.
Funny, a few days ago he was saying this....

Arab League backs no-fly zone in Libya - CNN

"It has one goal: To protect the civilian population," Amre Moussa, the body's secretary-general said.

"We will inform the U.N. Security Council of our request to enforce a no-fly zone over Libya," Moussa said. "The U.N. Security Council should decide how it will be enforced."

May be he thought it would be nice clean war like those john Wayne films.

The UN sanctioned the protection of civilians and that's what was discussed at Paris. You would have been asleep no to relise this means the utter distruction of the libyan governments ability to wage civil war and that a lot of people are going to die if the gadaffi's supporters really like the man enough to fight to the bitter end.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Latest...

UK Foreign Office spokesman: Unlike Qadhafi, the coalition is not attacking civilians.

UK Foreign Office spokesman: The UN resolution authorises all necessary measures to protect the Libyan people.

"The Foreign Office responds to apparent concerns raised by the head of the Arab League about the severity of the bombardment in Libya. A spokesman says: "Unlike Gaddafi, the coalition is not attacking civilians. The UN resolution authorises all necessary measures to protect the Libyan people. For the no-fly zone to be enforced safely, it is necessary to carry out carefully targeted operations against Libyan air defence capabilities. All missions are meticulously planned to ensure every care is taken to avoid civilian casualties. We will continue to work with our Arab partners to enforce the resolution for "

There we have it then. If the BBC report the UK foreign office it we believe it. Didn't they also report that Gadaffi was on is way to Venezuela?

Colonel Gadhafi needs to respond to the barbaric attacks on his and the Libyan peoples country led by the quater Jew Sarkozy in a manner the world wont forget. He should start by turning Libya's enormous field into a huge inferno of black smoke. Allowing Libya to become a gateway for African refugees looking to make it to Europe. He can also attack the countries attacking Libya on their own soil, if he wants to act in the sadistic manner his enemies are.