Thread: The Libyan Crisis

Invading a sovereign nation?? The French? I hope they do not surrender to Moammar!

Originally Posted by socal

The French Dassault Mirage F1 fired the first shot.

So, we can expect the french to surrender in a couple of days then?

The poor oppressed people of Burma will feel much better knowing they'd get the same protection from Western Governments if only they had enough oil to make it worthwhile.

Is there anyone in Europe or the USA naive enough to think there is anything humanitarian about this?

Originally Posted by thehighlander959

Overnight Tomahawk cruise missiles from submarines and ships in the Mediterranean plus Storm Shadow cruise missiles from Tornado GR4,s from RAF Marham in Norfolk. Thats a return flight of over 3000 miles from Marham to target with air to air refuelling when aircraft are fully loaded.

Seems like quite an operation..

Does not make sense. Why would they fly all that distance and back when they can operate from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus.

Originally Posted by BobR

The poor oppressed people of Burma will feel much better knowing they'd get the same protection from Western Governments if only they had enough oil to make it worthwhile.

Is there anyone in Europe or the USA naive enough to think there is anything humanitarian about this?

Libya is not one of China's junk yard dogs, Burma is.

China would nuke France if they went near it.

Originally Posted by BobR

The poor oppressed people of Burma will feel much better knowing they'd get the same protection from Western Governments if only they had enough oil to make it worthwhile.

Is there anyone in Europe or the USA naive enough to think there is anything humanitarian about this?

Yep. There's plenty of naive {and ignorant} souls out there to fill this model.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

stable developing colonies

Whose colonies?

Everyone's.

Perhaps you should reconsider that response once you've done a bit of reading on the "devil's wind"...

^^
It does make sense my friend. RAF Marham is the main Tornado Base in England. All the infrastructure for keeping Tornado aircraft operational is their.
The RAF will probably use RAF Akrotiri for aircraft that do not have the same range of the Tornado ie. Typhoon/Eurofighter and for other coalition aircraft that will struggle with range. E-3 Sentry aircraft will be controlling any movements of aircraft over Libyan airspace.
The Storm Shadow cruise missile is a stand-off weapon so these aircraft would not have to be to close to their target to gain maximum effect and impact.

Originally Posted by chitown

Invading a sovereign nation?? The French? I hope they do not surrender to Moammar!

how are you guys doing in Iraq ? how many US servicemen killed by desert peasants ? quite a few I believe

Originally Posted by Humbert

Mini Moi appears to be in the driver's seat on theez one, n'est pas?

he is, isn't it ? what a ridiculous little Napoleon he makes,

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by chitown

Invading a sovereign nation?? The French? I hope they do not surrender to Moammar!

how are you guys doing in Iraq ? how many US servicemen killed by desert peasants ? quite a few I believe

Shhhhh.....and there's Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by chitown

Invading a sovereign nation?? The French? I hope they do not surrender to Moammar!

how are you guys doing in Iraq ? how many US servicemen killed by desert peasants ? quite a few I believe

They all say No Ground Forces, but we all know sooner or later ground forces will be required. Then let us see just how good the French are.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by chitown

Invading a sovereign nation?? The French? I hope they do not surrender to Moammar!

how are you guys doing in Iraq ? how many US servicemen killed by desert peasants ? quite a few I believe

In military terms, nothing. Equal to a bad half a day in ww2.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by BobR

The poor oppressed people of Burma will feel much better knowing they'd get the same protection from Western Governments if only they had enough oil to make it worthwhile.

Is there anyone in Europe or the USA naive enough to think there is anything humanitarian about this?

Yep. There's plenty of naive {and ignorant} souls out there to fill this model.

Nobody likes Gadaffi, he has no friends.

knock him off.

The stated "objective" here seems to be "protecting civilians" OK, so we fire cruise missiles to disable the air defense systems, communications hubs, C & C etc.
Air strikes by various countries using air to ground will disable tanks and other heavy weapons.........then what? just go home?

You can't take and hold ground to protect anybody if you don't have troops on the ground and the good Colonel being such a great strategist n' all...has all kinds of militia, hired guns (paying $1,000 a day apparently) to do all kinds of nasty things to people.

If they send in troops--the fucking African Union will be screaming "invasion". The term "Crusader" has already be used....being as they are Muslims it's bound to be a Crusade...even if we are actually trying to save their asses...by pulling them apart and trying to prevent them from slaughtering each other..
Another no-win situation for the West....

Originally Posted by koman

The stated "objective" here seems to be "protecting civilians" OK, so we fire cruise missiles to disable the air defense systems, communications hubs, C & C etc.
Air strikes by various countries using air to ground will disable tanks and other heavy weapons.........then what? just go home?

You can't take and hold ground to protect anybody if you don't have troops on the ground and the good Colonel being such a great strategist n' all...has all kinds of militia, hired guns (paying $1,000 a day apparently) to do all kinds of nasty things to people.

If they send in troops--the fucking African Union will be screaming "invasion". The term "Crusader" has already be used....being as they are Muslims it's bound to be a Crusade...even if we are actually trying to save their asses...by pulling them apart and trying to prevent them from slaughtering each other..
Another no-win situation for the West....

Good spot there:

NOUAKCHOTT — The African Union's panel on Libya Sunday called for an "immediate stop" to all attacks after the United States, France and Britain launched military action against Moamer Kadhafi's forces.
After a more than four-hour meeting in the Mauritanian capital, the body also asked Libyan authorities to ensure "humanitarian aid to those in need," as well as the "protection of foreigners, including African expatriates living in Libya."
It underscored the need for "necessary political reforms to eliminate the causes of the present crisis" but at the same time called for "restraint" from the international community to avoid "serious humanitarian consequences."
The panel also announced a meeting in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa on March 25, along with representatives from the Arab League, the Organisation of Islamic Conference, the European Union and the United Nations to "put in place a mechanism for consultation and concerted action" to resolve the Libyan crisis.

A bit late for the African Union.. This is panic stations from them as the know in Tripoli and the surrounding ports all you see are Africans from Mali, Senegal, Ivory Coast etc. and also Libyan,Moroccan and Algerian refugees looking for ways to get out of Africa to Europe.
It looks like a lot of the Africans and Arabs might not be getting a boat to Lampedusa Island (Italy) and will be heading back to the poverty in their homelands and countries.

^^^^ Now now gerbil. You know surrender monkeys have no sense of humour:

It Begins: France...20-03-2011 10:31 AMButterflyfully deserved for lame humor

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Of course. A series of air strikes will do nothing. Now why not a couple of cruise missile "surgical strikes" into the raghead's palace over in Bahrain?

Boon Mee? Surely you'd like to see that too wouldn't you?