Thread: What makes terrorists?

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by stroller

...This regime, thanks to God, has lost the reason for its existence.

Which was its reason for existence, ceburat, and how has it lost it?

And which God do you mean here?

Btw, the thread has been drifting off-topic for a while, we do have an Iran-Israel thread from a while back.

Which ever God Pres.Iran was referring to in his comments. I only copied part of the story and provided the ref for those interested in the whole story.

Yes there is a lot of information here by me and other, that is not directly related to what Macha started when he started this thread. However, I believe it relates to it well. All IMO of course.

This thread's about what makes terrorists, and as it seems some people don't regard the Iranian as a terrorist, your post is clearly off topic.

What's with the "US christian fundamentalist" obsession with Israel ? I don't see the same thing with the more "sober" Roman Catholic ?

Do you believe in the Rapture ceburat ? I wouldn't be surprised if you did.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

In the last six months 100 Gazans have been murdered for every Israeli solider killed.

showing your biased again mad dog???? why is it that the GAZANS are MURDERED while the ISRAELIS are only KILLED????

Originally Posted by ceburat

This regime(Israel), thanks to God, has lost the reason for its existence, and would soon disappear.

Actually it's a fair comment. We let Israel be again after the horror of WW2, and all we are getting in return is the same genocide being committed, against Palestinians this time. Obviously, we got it wrong, and that land should be returned to Palestinians. How about setting up Israel in the US instead ? would be perfectly normal. And nobody is denying the right for Israel to exist, we just want them to stop killing people under false pretense, a bit like Iraq and ChenChenya.

Hang on a minute, Keda, what kind of funny twist is this?
What exactly are you alluding to?

What's "the Iranian" - do you mean the pres, the Iranian people or someone else?

And if this was a jibe at me, please forgive me for giving a gentle nudge regarding the topic - this could easily drift off into discussing Israeli related issues after the last batch of posts. Which would actually be ok, oh well, I'll shut up now.

Originally Posted by KID

Originally Posted by mad_dog

In the last six months 100 Gazans have been murdered for every Israeli solider killed.

showing your biased again mad dog???? why is it that the GAZANS are MURDERED while the ISRAELIS are only KILLED????

Hmm, I believe when unarmed civilians are purposefully shot, it may well be called murder, whereas for armed soldiers, one usually says 'killed' when one doesn't know the exact circumstances of death.

Get a grip, kid.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

What's with the "US christian fundamentalist" obsession with Israel ? I don't see the same thing with the more "sober" Roman Catholic ?

Do you believe in the Rapture ceburat ? I wouldn't be surprised if you did.

I have no obsession with Israel. You do have an unfounded hate for them.

I am not a Jew and I am not Catholic-However, that does not mean that I want to kill all of them because we have different religious beliefs.

You should go back and read what Keda posts, the long posts. Maybe you could comprehend the real cause of terrorists.

What I believe about religion or do not believe is of no concern to you. I prefer to discuss religion with those who have a real desire to serve God, or to learn of Him. You know, people with the mental capacity to understand.

This thread is about terririst-we have already been warned-so please keep your questions to me about terrist?

I believe the correct phrase is COLLATERAL DAMAGE-- that's what happens when armed militants hide among and behind unarmed civilians-- who then get caught up in the cross fire !!!------ GRIP GOT

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by ceburat

This regime(Israel), thanks to God, has lost the reason for its existence, and would soon disappear.

Actually it's a fair comment. We let Israel be again after the horror of WW2, and all we are getting in return is the same genocide being committed, against Palestinians this time. Obviously, we got it wrong, and that land should be returned to Palestinians. How about setting up Israel in the US instead ? would be perfectly normal. And nobody is denying the right for Israel to exist, we just want them to stop killing people under false pretense, a bit like Iraq and ChenChenya.

So nobody is denying the right for Israel to exist...You need to visit Iran and talk to their President, chief terrorist in charge and his ayatolas or what ever they are. They sing a different song then you.

I believe the correct phrase is COLLATERAL DAMAGE-- that's what happens when armed militants hide among and behind unarmed civilians-- who then get caught up in the cross fire !!!

Yeah, governments like to call it "collateral damage" when the military shoot into crowds, buildings or drop clusterbombs.

This is one of the things which makes 'terrorists', people start taking up arms and cause damage to the supposed enemy almost indiscriminately.

Originally Posted by KID

I believe the correct phrase is COLLATERAL DAMAGE-- that's what happens when armed militants hide among and behind unarmed civilians-- who then get caught up in the cross fire !!!- GRIP GOT

Right on Kid. I might add, what happened in Lebanon is terrorist activities, not by Israel, but by Herzbolla backed by Iran. Iran is the ones responsible for killing of the children and the blood is their hands.

Originally Posted by ceburat

You do have an unfounded hate for them.

well committing a genocide does not qualify as unfounded, but I guess by your definition you would have been a Nazi admirer if Hitler had won.

Originally Posted by ceburat

Maybe you could comprehend the real cause of terrorists.

I do, but do you ? I think I must have missed the point entirely, probably because it was pure trash (as usual) from keda

Originally Posted by ceburat

What I believe about religion or do not believe is of no concern to you

I will take this as a yes, which definitely puts in the nuthouse with kerux.

Originally Posted by ceburat

You know, people with the mental capacity to understand.

No I don't, please explain.

Originally Posted by ceburat

You need to visit Iran and talk to their President, chief terrorist in charge and his ayatolas or what ever they are

He is as much as a nutcase as the US president. He is not the one bombarding and killing civilians under a false pretense now. What "attrocities" has he committed yet ?

Originally Posted by ceburat

I might add, what happened in Lebanon is terrorist activities, not by Israel, but by Herzbolla backed by Iran

They both are. One with the blessing of the USA, one with the blessing of Syria. But who is winning ?

Originally Posted by stroller

I don't understand what children's rights in Arab countries have to do with UN resolutions and Israel?

Getting a bit carried away here, Herman?

Btw, this is what I feared would happen: this topic is not a picture context. OK, this isn't gore, but please post just a few sample picture and give a link for those who want to see the others as well in future.
Thanks.

I think it is called respect!
That you don't respect your enemy I can understand. But your own children?!???

"The UN's Declaration of the Rights of Children of November 22, 1959 states that "Humanity must give the child the best of itself", and in Principle 9, it declares that "the child must be protected from any form of negligence, cruelty and exploitation and must not be submitted to trade of any form."

Stroller; I think your a nice guy, but your teacher-like manners sometimes gets YOU carried off sometimes.

P.S. Being a Admin is not an easy job and I'am sure that you ask yourself sometimes "Why am I doing this?"

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by KID

I believe the correct phrase is COLLATERAL DAMAGE-- that's what happens when armed militants hide among and behind unarmed civilians-- who then get caught up in the cross fire !!!- GRIP GOT

Right on Kid. I might add, what happened in Lebanon is terrorist activities, not by Israel, but by Herzbolla backed by Iran. Iran is the ones responsible for killing of the children and the blood is their hands.

And when paedophile American troops rape and murder a child and then kill her entire family it is Al Qaeda's fault. Your logic is flawless.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

And when paedophile American troops rape and murder a child and then kill her entire family it is Al Qaeda's fault. Your logic is flawless.

No, it's collateral damage. The troops need their fun too.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Israels actions towards the Palestininas and its neighbours are one of the most common reasons given when Islamic terrorists are asked why they took up terrorist tactics. Bin laden himself referred to the 1984 Israeli massacre of Lebanese at Qana as a pivotal moment in his life. I wonder how many new terrorists the 2006 Israeli massacre at Qana produced?

If the Arabic nations would just leave Israel alone then they would have no reason to respond to the Arabic attacks!!!!

I noticed that Israel called for peace talks a while back !!!!!

What was the answer that they received ??????

yep, them peace loving mussies said Israel and your peace talks !!!!

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Israels actions towards the Palestininas and its neighbours are one of the most common reasons given when Islamic terrorists are asked why they took up terrorist tactics. Bin laden himself referred to the 1984 Israeli massacre of Lebanese at Qana as a pivotal moment in his life. I wonder how many new terrorists the 2006 Israeli massacre at Qana produced?

Of course that is what they say and maybe some believe it. However, being raised to hate anything not islamic has more to do with it.

Additionally, even tho you don't believe in religion or understand it, you should read some of the Koran starting with 5:32-37. The pivotal point in an Islamics life is the day they are born. They have not choice, they are taught all of this terrorist activities, hate, etc from the cradle up.

Originally Posted by KID

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Israels actions towards the Palestininas and its neighbours are one of the most common reasons given when Islamic terrorists are asked why they took up terrorist tactics. Bin laden himself referred to the 1984 Israeli massacre of Lebanese at Qana as a pivotal moment in his life. I wonder how many new terrorists the 2006 Israeli massacre at Qana produced?

If the Arabic nations would just leave Israel alone then they would have no reason to respond to the Arabic attacks!!!!

I noticed that Israel called for peace talks a while back !!!!!

What was the answer that they received ??????

yep, them peace loving mussies said Israel and your peace talks !!!!

Abbas has been begging hand on knees to negotiate for years you couldn't possibly find a Palestinian more moderate than him and the Israelis completely sidelined him.

So peace talks with who? What were their pre-condtions for the peace talks? Link ?

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by KID

I believe the correct phrase is COLLATERAL DAMAGE-- that's what happens when armed militants hide among and behind unarmed civilians-- who then get caught up in the cross fire !!!- GRIP GOT

Right on Kid. I might add, what happened in Lebanon is terrorist activities, not by Israel, but by Herzbolla backed by Iran. Iran is the ones responsible for killing of the children and the blood is their hands.

And when paedophile American troops rape and murder a child and then kill her entire family it is Al Qaeda's fault. Your logic is flawless.

Those men are criminals who deserve death. Not Al Qaeda's fault on that one. However, those men are a small percent of Americans. I think all countries have some trash like that around. It is a shame we can't rid ourselves of them.

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Originally Posted by KID

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Israels actions towards the Palestininas and its neighbours are one of the most common reasons given when Islamic terrorists are asked why they took up terrorist tactics. Bin laden himself referred to the 1984 Israeli massacre of Lebanese at Qana as a pivotal moment in his life. I wonder how many new terrorists the 2006 Israeli massacre at Qana produced?

If the Arabic nations would just leave Israel alone then they would have no reason to respond to the Arabic attacks!!!!

I noticed that Israel called for peace talks a while back !!!!!

What was the answer that they received ??????

yep, them peace loving mussies said Israel and your peace talks !!!!

Abbas has been begging hand on knees to negotiate for years you couldn't possibly find a Palestinian more moderate than him and the Israelis completely sidelined him.

So peace talks with who? What were their pre-condtions for the peace talks? Link ?

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Originally Posted by ceburat

Originally Posted by mad_dog

Israels actions towards the Palestininas and its neighbours are one of the most common reasons given when Islamic terrorists are asked why they took up terrorist tactics. Bin laden himself referred to the 1984 Israeli massacre of Lebanese at Qana as a pivotal moment in his life. I wonder how many new terrorists the 2006 Israeli massacre at Qana produced?

Of course that is what they say and maybe some believe it. However, being raised to hate anything not islamic has more to do with it.

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I don't believe UBL was lying about his reaction to Israel's invasion of Lebanon. But even if he was why would he do that? To tap into the fact that most Muslims find Israel's actions enraging!

Israels actions in Palestine, Lebanon and Syria coupled with Americas actions in Iraq and Afghanistan are the best recruiting sergeant Al Qaeda could ever wish for.

Originally Posted by mad_dog;[/quote

Abbas has been begging hand on knees to negotiate for years you couldn't possibly find a Palestinian more moderate than him and the Israelis completely sidelined him.

So peace talks with who? What were their pre-condtions for the peace talks? Link ?

Abbas is a good man. You are right in all you say about him. But it is a fact, the U. S. and Israel will not cooperate with him because of Hamas. They must recognize Israel's right to exist if they want to talk peace.
That is very reasonable. It is also reasonable for all the fighting to stop on both sides if they are going to talk peace. Will they both do it--who the hell knows.