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    Go on then, prove it, with evidence, not explanations, which you seem so clearly to regard as worthless and pointless.

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    Good thing God let an evil thing happen to His only Son.

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    LB, sorry you sneaked one in there...mine was responding to kerux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhz View Post
    ^ I think you are wrong there Kerux.

    God made Man, the biggest of all evil.
    God gave man a choice. The same thing most of you insist that children have, a choice, to not have things forced upon them.

    Then you turn around and blame God because he gave his children, man, a choice.

    You guys want it both ways. Make up your mind.

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    For me I believe God is the creator of the heaven and earth and whatever is in between is under his dominion.

    Those who believe have many reasons to believe those who dont want to believe have their own reasons so basically no one is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerux View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhz View Post
    ^ I think you are wrong there Kerux.

    God made Man, the biggest of all evil.
    God gave man a choice. The same thing most of you insist that children have, a choice, to not have things forced upon them.

    Then you turn around and blame God because he gave his children, man, a choice.

    You guys want it both ways. Make up your mind.
    I dont blame God for my failures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    LB, sorry you sneaked one in there...mine was responding to kerux.
    no probs. you have your work cut out as it is. good luck.
    Quote Originally Posted by kerux
    Then you turn around and blame God because he gave his children, man, a choice. You guys want it both ways. Make up your mind.
    where do i even acknowledge god?
    Last edited by lovebucket; 11-10-2006 at 05:05 PM.

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    From your linky:

    "There is another possibility, of course, and it is both the most reasonable and least odious: The biblical God is a fiction. As Richard Dawkins has observed, we are all atheists with respect to Zeus and Thor. Only the atheist has realized that the biblical god is no different. Consequently, only the atheist is compassionate enough to take the profundity of the world’s suffering at face value."


    No one that I am aware of is so wrong about so much as Richard Dawkins.
    Last edited by kerux; 11-10-2006 at 06:10 PM.

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    They are many gods in this world
    I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other gods you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerux;18

    From your linky:

    "There is another possibility, of course, and it is both the most reasonable and least odious: The biblical God is a fiction. As [B
    Richard Dawkins[/b] has observed, we are all atheists with respect to Zeus and Thor. Only the atheist has realized that the biblical god is no different. Consequently, only the atheist is compassionate enough to take the profundity of the world’s suffering at face value."


    No one that I am aware of is so wrong about so much as Richard Dawkins.
    You probably hate him because he has a pretty good argument that you would rather not hear because it forces you to doubt your conviction.

    It will be rather pointless debating with you except that it might force one to actually learn more about science, which in itself is a good thing, I guess. But I cannot be asked. I bet God loves lazy bums too though.
    Last edited by Skulldigger; 11-10-2006 at 07:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    They are many gods in this world
    I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other gods you will understand why I dismiss yours.
    I agree. The Christian religion was founded by slaves and has suffering as its central theme. Who in their right mind would choose the angry and jealous fish-god as their object of worship?

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    Are you a FUNDIE ?
    These are the danger signals.

    You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your god.

    You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

    You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god.

    Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees!

    You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

    You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old.

    You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving".

    While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to prove Christianity.

    You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

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    Well well, learning something every day...must confess never heard of a fundie, but now realise I've been posting to one the past few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    must confess never heard of a fundie
    They are quite fashionable these days and they never know how you decide to define FUNDIE.
    Is it a serious fundamentalist or just someone to have fun with ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerux View Post
    You concur?

    Then you'd do so in face of the over 25,000 manuscripts and portions of manuscripts, including the Dead Sea Scrolls, that pretty much demolishes that 'chinese whispers' BS.

    25 Fascinating Facts About the Dead Sea Scrolls @ Century One Bookstore
    ...,

    Those are the facts, and they refute your telephone theory all to the non-air conditioned place you will end up if you don't re-think your views.


    Very interesting links - I love that sort of Indiana Jones stuff. But it doesn't change my view on the Bible.

    So, Kerux, why don't you ask yourself why it is that you are unable to convince anyone on this forum that what you believe in is the truth? Why are you such a failure at "teaching". Your nick name - Kerux - means "preacher". Perhaps that is the problem - you preach too much and teach too little.

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    ^Very observant. 9.5/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerux
    As Richard Dawkins has observed....
    Quote Originally Posted by kerux
    No one that I am aware of is so wrong about so much as Richard Dawkins
    never mind your opinion of someone who's name was mentioned on the site. you may be right about him for all i care.
    i'm more interested in your thoughts about those god loving folks in new orleans who were drowned. did jesus want them for a sunbeam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    never heard of a fundie, but now realise I've been posting to one the past few days.
    his ban over the road is up soon. don't worry, we're used to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovebucket View Post
    his ban over the road is up soon...
    Shame. I hope he continues to stick around here. I'm sure he'll get a convert here soon.

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    ok, just as long as you already know him, but do make sure he gets home safely.

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    You probably hate him because he has a pretty good argument that you would rather not hear because it forces you to doubt your conviction.
    Never said I hated Richard Dawkins. I do, however, think he is a fool.

    "A fool says in his heart, there is no God." Psalm 53:1

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    did jesus want them for a sunbeam?
    I thought you said you didn't recognize God?

    So, Kerux, why don't you ask yourself why it is that you are unable to convince anyone on this forum that what you believe in is the truth?
    My job isn't to convince people. That's up to God.

    Isaiah 55:11

    So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void,
    but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

    And how to you know others aren't at least looking at things a little differently now? Or convinced?
    I don't give altar calls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerux View Post
    This is the thread for which the topic is the Bible.
    Quote Originally Posted by kerux View Post

    Is it God's written communication to His creation.....blah, blah, blah
    Wasn't this all covered in the DaVinci Code? I'm just a simpleton, but that all made more sense to me than the Bible ever did.
    Last edited by BillyZ; 12-10-2006 at 04:58 AM.

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    Could that be that you don't know the Bible?

    A could be put on almost every page of Brown's book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerux
    I thought you said you didn't recognize God
    nope. i said "where did i acknowledge him?" ..and you are now using this
    Quote Originally Posted by lovebucket
    did jesus want them for a sunbeam?
    ....as a smokescreen for the more serious issue that people who worship him get drowned or no apparent reason. but then again, i expect that from you.
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