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    Some interesting polls have been done over a number of years re what the general public around the world believes re 9/11.

    9/11 opinion polls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It seems there is quite a large proportion of people who are not convinced of the US governments account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post


    I bet that's just a bunch of people on the floors smoking cigarettes, right?
    If you are the one in the building, perhaps a massive joint? I say this as the picture is not of WTC7. I know this as I worked in an office there for 2 years.

    Anyway, carry on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    ^Speaks the man who maturely edited the title, yet claims to be above the majority. That's just speculation of course!

    Science from government bodies and backed institutions has obviously fooled you now, hasn't it?
    Oh, I wouldn't say that was speculation, I'd say it was paranoia, a trait many, if not most, of your postings exemplify. What on earth makes you think I edited the title? I have no more privileges on here than you have.

    Do you know what science means? Of course you don't, you've already made that clear. Again JJ, where's your actual evidence? Your ad-hominem and straw man arguments and your goalpost moving are amusing but they don't disguise the fact that you have absolutely no verifiable evidence for your delusional claims.
    Predictable too!



    What I don't understand regardless of your opinions or anyone like you is to why any decent human being would have an objection in there being another investigation. It would put many people at rest either way. Attmitedly there will always be those that will never let it be should the truth be what the government says it is.

    Quite clearly there is huge division of opinions

    Seems to me your just and urgumentative fella with the need for the last word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    Still waiting for a reply as to:

    - what happened to the real planes
    - what happened to real missing people
    - How about the fire that didn't exist in WTC7

    (whistles) (crickets chirping)
    Who's saying there wasn't a fire. That's news to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    Still waiting for a reply as to:

    - what happened to the real planes
    - what happened to real missing people
    - How about the fire that didn't exist in WTC7

    (whistles) (crickets chirping)
    Who's saying there wasn't a fire. That's news to me.
    Someone did say it back there. Thats why the duck got so excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    Still waiting for a reply as to:

    - what happened to the real planes
    - what happened to real missing people
    - How about the fire that didn't exist in WTC7

    (whistles) (crickets chirping)
    Who's saying there wasn't a fire. That's news to me.
    And there was me thinking you'd actually read this thread
    The aptly named madasafish said it.

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    ^Like throwing fish to a duck it was.
    Daffy must have wet his pants with excitement when he read that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passengers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post


    I bet that's just a bunch of people on the floors smoking cigarettes, right?
    If you are the one in the building, perhaps a massive joint? I say this as the picture is not of WTC7. I know this as I worked in an office there for 2 years.

    Anyway, carry on...
    Sure, you have ....

    Odd, that, since that certainly is the rather distinctive building feature of WTC7 (I'm talking of the building on the right, with the flames - the US Post Office Building is appropriately on the left, the view is looking towards WTC.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    Still waiting for a reply as to:

    - what happened to the real planes
    - what happened to real missing people
    - How about the fire that didn't exist in WTC7

    (whistles) (crickets chirping)
    Who's saying there wasn't a fire. That's news to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by madasafish View Post
    There's the thing. No plane flew into WTC7, no-one saw any fire, nor was any fire recorded on any video of the numerous ones made at the scene, yet the building still managed to collapse in the same way as the North and South towers. Strange that.
    You kids really need to get your stories straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Ok, I might have a desire to see aluminium burn.
    Maybe you could guide me there, and also tell me what circumstance was needed in the Towers for those aluminium Planes to burn ? Hints ?
    Additionally, aluminum can burn from the heat of friction as well:





    yes, that's an airline, above, and for those claiming that it was lit on fire by the burning fuel (mind you, the same fuel these folks will claim couldn't get hot enough inside the WTC), look at the final picture of the burnt out plane below:



    (Hint: Fuel is stored in the wings, which are left intact)

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    Wouldn't have anything to do with gravity would it?

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    I worked in WT7, too. But fek, all I remember is that it was brick. Never looked up at it. No time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    They only answer with diatribes and attacks.
    - Jet: Libbies ... Libbies ... Libbies
    - Daffy: Quack ... Quack ... Quack ...

    why would anyone answer to you guys or not throw you insults,

    here a few more peanuts for you

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    Daffy:
    Someone mentioned the extreme temperatures of burning aluminium, and I asked how it could be ignited.

    In your pictures, I doubt that the aluminium is burning, rather than being destroyed by the fire.
    Hint: The Fuel is stored in the planes body aswell.

    But heck, I'm no scientist(can't even spell it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    Some interesting polls have been done over a number of years re what the general public around the world believes re 9/11.

    9/11 opinion polls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It seems there is quite a large proportion of people who are not convinced of the US governments account.
    There's also quite a large proportion of people that believe in Angels.

    Doesn't make it so.

    What happened is quite simple - 20 jihadists trained for, hijacked 4 planes, and three were flown by them into American buildings -- one went face-plant into a field in Pensylvania, because the passengers took the hijackers on.

    That's about it. Not much rocket science, there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    one went face-plant into a field in Pensylvania, because the passengers took the hijackers on.
    speaking of fairy tales

    jesus, you are really a delusional freak Quack Quack,

    so delusional you had to put me on ignore, can't face reality, like a good religious zealot

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Daffy:
    Someone mentioned the extreme temperatures of burning aluminium, and I asked how it could be ignited.
    Fair question - an earlier link provided detailed information on how aluminum could be brought to burn, or melt, in the context of the WTC:

    Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Molten Steel

    Bear another thing in mind, that the average planes carries about 200 of these oxygen generators (also known as oxygen scrubbers), which generate oxygen via a thermal reaction that heats chemicals to around 1200 fahrenheit. Properly installed and insulated, there is not much risk - yet when these same components are part of a vaporizing crash.... well, it's a superheated chemistry set...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    Some interesting polls have been done over a number of years re what the general public around the world believes re 9/11.

    9/11 opinion polls - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It seems there is quite a large proportion of people who are not convinced of the US governments account.
    There's also quite a large proportion of people that believe in Angels.

    Doesn't make it so.

    What happened is quite simple - 20 jihadists trained for, hijacked 4 planes, and three were flown by them into American buildings -- one went face-plant into a field in Pensylvania, because the passengers took the hijackers on.

    That's about it. Not much rocket science, there.
    So simple hey? Nothing to see here, everyone just move along.
    The fact is that there are so many unanswered questions and inconsistencies in the US government explanation that the majority of people around the world dont fully believe the official US government explanation.
    Perhaps the truth will never be known, but that wont stop people from questioning the official explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    Perhaps the truth will never be known, but that wont stop people from questioning the official explanation.
    I must have missed the portion in your earlier replies were you provided replies to the questions we asked you - simple questions, that you seem unwilling to answer.

    Here, have a tinfoil hat, instead.

    Run along, now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    -- one went face-plant into a field in Pensylvania, because the passengers took the hijackers on.
    Now you mention it, Daffy.
    That one must be the harder one to explain.

    Such a small crater for such a big plane.
    I have to say, that even if you buy into all official reports, this is not easy to grasp
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    That's about it. Not much rocket science, there.
    Well Rocket Science is just math, and here we are about beliefs.
    The Jihadists did it, or
    It was an inside job, or
    Someone knew, but did nothing to stop it.

    Which camp has the strongest case ? Time will tell, and then I'll fold

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    Daffy has done a great job of explaining it for y'all. Nothing much to buttress your dissenting arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    -- one went face-plant into a field in Pensylvania, because the passengers took the hijackers on.
    Now you mention it, Daffy.
    That one must be the harder one to explain.

    Such a small crater for such a big plane.
    I have to say, that even if you buy into all official reports, this is not easy to grasp
    Try to think about what materials a plane is made of.

    The impact crater left by Flight 93 is not unusual for a plane the crashes nose first, directly into the ground. Planes are not made of steel -- I thought we had already covered previously that planes are made from aluminium.

    What else but the Boeing from Flight 93 do you think it would have been?

    Further, I hate asking the same questions over and over again -- but if that wasn't the plane from Flight 93, what happened to the actual plane, and what happened to the passengers and crew that were aboard? (at this point, I'm going to give up ever expecting an answer to this same question, although it does appear to make 9/11 nutjobs run away quickly when confronted with it).

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    They took a plane this time.

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    Daffy, I not trying to bust your balls here. I was merely suggesting that this big airliner made a very small impact on the crashsite, and kind of hoping that you atleast would agree to that. But instead you write this:
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    The impact crater left by Flight 93 is not unusual for a plane the crashes nose first, directly into the ground.
    and that hints to me that you have gone religius about 9-11.
    There was "nothing" left, and you might have, but I have never seen the like of that. ( Maybe the Everglade Crash though)
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    Planes are not made of steel -- I thought we had already covered previously that planes are made from aluminium.
    And engines, seating, luggage ?, passengers, crew ? landinggear

    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    What else but the Boeing from Flight 93 do you think it would have been?
    I don't know
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    Further, I hate asking the same questions over and over again -- but if that wasn't the plane from Flight 93, what happened to the actual plane, and what happened to the passengers and crew that were aboard? (at this point, I'm going to give up ever expecting an answer to this same question, although it does appear to make 9/11 nutjobs run away quickly when confronted with it).
    I can't answer that, cause I do not know. If I knew, I'd either be a hero or dead.
    In both cases, I wouldn't be on this tread

    Maybe you are spot on.

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