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    so DrB, and Daffy are just another kind of Conspiracy Nutters, they believe in the official version

    if your government would tell you that pigs could fly, would you find a scientific explanation for it ? no doubt, darwin would be involved in the argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    so DrB, and Daffy are just another kind of Conspiracy Nutters, they believe in the official version

    if your government would tell you that pigs could fly, would you find a scientific explanation for it ? no doubt, darwin would be involved in the argument
    I'd examine the evidence and come to my own conclusions based on that. That's the difference between me and the conspiracy nutjobs, I'm capable of critical thinking. I also know what "scientific explanation" means, it's obvious from your post that you do not. It's very strange that you should think that analysis of available evidence should be the same thing as blind belief, it's as if you and people like you were completely bypassed by the renaissance and the enlightment.

    It's pretty telling that those who believe in this kind of conspiracy always accuse the people they disagree with of just believing what they're told, it's almost as if the conspiracists are completely incapable of understanding how critical thinking works and believe that because their conclusions are based on a combination of faith and ignorance that everybody else must arrive at their conclusions in the same manner. I guess that even with all the educational opportunities modern life offers that many people are still no different mentally from the credulous and superstitious medieval peasant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helge
    also tell me what circumstance was needed in the Towers for those aluminium Planes to burn ?
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    Stick a magnesium igniter into it, and crank up the heat:
    Ok, I get it

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    I'm too drunk to comprehend this, but have I justed watched the scientific equivalent of Bill & Ben going up in a cloud of Swan-Vestas as the latest 'proof' of this matter?

    Jesus.

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    ^ Dunno. Who's Bill and Ben?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    so DrB, and Daffy are just another kind of Conspiracy Nutters, they believe in the official version

    if your government would tell you that pigs could fly, would you find a scientific explanation for it ? no doubt, darwin would be involved in the argument
    For a supposedly clever guy, you seem to be missing some common sense here B-Fly. Do yourself a favor and read that Popular Science debunking of all these bizarre conspiracy theories and you will be enlightened...jing jing, mai go hok..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    ^ Dunno. Who's Bill and Ben?
    You obviously led a very sheltered and uncultured life as a child Jet.



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    ^ Geez, glad I missed that part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    so DrB, and Daffy are just another kind of Conspiracy Nutters, they believe in the official version

    if your government would tell you that pigs could fly, would you find a scientific explanation for it ? no doubt, darwin would be involved in the argument
    What you have to realise is this is just to difficult for them to handle. If people don't think the same way as they do, they just don't compute!

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    ^nope, just waiting for your evidence. Where is it? So far you just have rhetoric and some noddy "science" that wouldn't fool anybody who didn't want to be fooled- is that all you've got? Don't hurry, I already know the answer

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    ^Speaks the man who maturely edited the title, yet claims to be above the majority. That's just speculation of course!

    Science from government bodies and backed institutions has obviously fooled you now, hasn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    It's pretty telling that those who believe in this kind of conspiracy always accuse the people they disagree with of just believing what they're told, it's almost as if the conspiracists are completely incapable of understanding how critical thinking works and believe that because their conclusions are based on a combination of faith and ignorance that everybody else must arrive at their conclusions in the same manner. I guess that even with all the educational opportunities modern life offers that many people are still no different mentally from the credulous and superstitious medieval peasant.
    you are missing the point DrB, you don't have access to all the critical evidence, and certainly don't have the knowledge involved of all the specialists that would need to be involved to independently confirm or refute the official version, so at the end, like the rest of the conspiracy nutters, you are a believer, and only choose a "few" of the scientific evidence to base your opinion or your judgment on the merit of the official version. For me, it's a clear case of choosing one camp over the other and critical thinking is not part of the equation.

    Can't blame you for being a believer, but you need to be a bit more open to the possibility of the other side being right, even though they don't have the same credibility and presentation skills of a government official.

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    ^Who's hiding the critical evidence, Butterfly? Is it the illuminati or <shudder> the Jews?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    ^Speaks the man who maturely edited the title, yet claims to be above the majority. That's just speculation of course!

    Science from government bodies and backed institutions has obviously fooled you now, hasn't it?
    Oh, I wouldn't say that was speculation, I'd say it was paranoia, a trait many, if not most, of your postings exemplify. What on earth makes you think I edited the title? I have no more privileges on here than you have.

    Do you know what science means? Of course you don't, you've already made that clear. Again JJ, where's your actual evidence? Your ad-hominem and straw man arguments and your goalpost moving are amusing but they don't disguise the fact that you have absolutely no verifiable evidence for your delusional claims.
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    ^^

    most of the debris have been disregarded, and the tapes are missing, still paying attention ? or was that too much information for you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    ^^

    most of the debris have been disregarded, and the tapes are missing, still paying attention ? or was that too much information for you ?
    Too little, and all of it lies. You're obviously aware of what's been disregarded and, of course, know what's missing. Are you able to show us what's missing and what's been disregarded? Of course you are, who would doubt that a Belgian in Bangkok has complete access to all the suppressed 9/11 evidence? I'm looking forward to seeing it, in a verifiable form of course - it would be insulting to expect less of a gentleman and a scholar such as yourself, in your next post.

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    ^ and you have accessed to all those evidence yourself, out of fuckhole nowhere in CM ?

    and yes, the important tape is missing, how do we know ? because the government was kind enough to tell us that they won't show the first most critical frames of the footage, but leave us some of the rest.

    Have you seen the footage DrB ? I am sure you couldn't have missed that one, or did you ?

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    Still waiting for a reply as to:

    - what happened to the real planes
    - what happened to real missing people
    - How about the fire that didn't exist in WTC7

    (whistles) (crickets chirping)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    ^ and you have accessed to all those evidence yourself, out of fuckhole nowhere in CM ?

    and yes, the important tape is missing, how do we know ? because the government was kind enough to tell us that they won't show the first most critical frames of the footage, but leave us some of the rest.

    Have you seen the footage DrB ? I am sure you couldn't have missed that one, or did you ?
    Quote Originally Posted by drb0b
    You're obviously aware of what's been disregarded and, of course, know what's missing. Are you able to show us what's missing and what's been disregarded? Of course you are, who would doubt that a Belgian in Bangkok has complete access to all the suppressed 9/11 evidence? I'm looking forward to seeing it, in a verifiable form of course - it would be insulting to expect less of a gentleman and a scholar such as yourself, in your next post.
    Well? We're still waiting. <Fingers tapping>

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    ^^ ah our Israeli agent enter the scene

    good questions, let's assume for argument sake that there were no planes, and no missing people, how could we prove what happened to them ?

    Thanks for playing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    For a supposedly clever guy, you seem to be missing some common sense here B-Fly.
    Good choice of words..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    Still waiting for a reply as to:

    - what happened to the real planes
    - what happened to real missing people
    - How about the fire that didn't exist in WTC7

    (whistles) (crickets chirping)
    The real missing people are hiding in the same place as the European Jews who disappeared in the 1930s/40s. I thought everybody knew that

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Well? <Fingers tapping>
    jesus, selective reading, aren't you ?

    there is no independent investigation because most of the evidence have been disregarded, that's fucking public knowledge, or should we also dissert on the validity that 2+2=4 ?

    where are the main debris of the WTC now ? in a lab ? try a covered landfill

    you must have missed the part with the missing tapes too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Well? <Fingers tapping>
    jesus, selective reading, aren't you ?

    there is no independent investigation because most of the evidence have been disregarded, that's fucking public knowledge, or should we also dissert on the validity that 2+2=4 ?

    where are the main debris of the WTC now ? in a lab ? try a covered landfill

    you must have missed the part with the missing tapes too
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    ^^

    most of the debris have been disregarded, and the tapes are missing, still paying attention ? or was that too much information for you ?
    Quote Originally Posted by drb0b
    Too little, and all of it lies. You're obviously aware of what's been disregarded and, of course, know what's missing. Are you able to show us what's missing and what's been disregarded? Of course you are, who would doubt that a Belgian in Bangkok has complete access to all the suppressed 9/11 evidence? I'm looking forward to seeing it, in a verifiable form of course - it would be insulting to expect less of a gentleman and a scholar such as yourself, in your next post.
    Still waiting, BF. Where is it? You can prove what you say, can't you? Can't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    The real missing people are hiding in the same place as the European Jews who disappeared in the 1930s/40s. I thought everybody knew that
    this is exactly what I am talking about, the reaction of a religious zealot when faced with challenging questions, you will need to "extrapolate" the argument to make it sound ridicule to kill any credibility of the original argument

    a bit like a religious preacher making fun of science to make a point about the validity of his beliefs

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