Thread: The War lovers

So the world is black and white?
And the US and yourself present the 'white'?

When will you start responding to what posters say, rather than tossing about terms like 'moonbats' and 'anti-war crowd'?

Have you read Mhz's post:

...Most of the muslim clerics are uneducated and their followers as well.So if you are a good citizen of a good society then you should stop giving those clerics a chance to cause chaos. ...

I guess this isn't worth responding too, because it doesn't fit your image of an "Arab" (as you refered to Mhz earlier), "Islamist" or whatever terms you usually categorise people in?

^^ I have to agree with alot that you say,most of it in fact.

I have to disagree with the you on the black and white / good and evil bit though.

There are shades of gray here, the people who commit attrocities, including 9/11 may not be evil. They indeed carried out an evil act, and may very well be evil (I personaly think they were), but it does not have to be so.

The American marines who alledgedly (sp?) carried out an evil act, I do not believe are evil. they happened to be put into a situation with which they did not know how to cope.


The people who attack the American and British soldiers in Iraq
, I am sure they are not evil. There are good and valid reasons, at least from thier point of view, for their attacks.

And the best way to stop them will be to talk with them and understand them. Not to carry on atacking them, this will only create more attacks from them.

And before you flame me too much, I know it is not as simple as this, but it should form part of the whole strategy.

Originally Posted by ADare

There are shades of gray here, the people who commit attrocities, including 9/11 may not be evil. They indeed carried out an evil act, and may very well be evil (I personaly think they were), but it does not have to be so.

This little "gem" really epitomizes the problem.

While you "personally" think someone who hijacks an airliner full of people to ram it into a skyscraper is evil, you still want to equivocate the nature of the act!

I don't think much can be said to you which could be meaningful because your cognitive abilities seem severely impaired.

Get this straight moon-bat! The people who planned, financed, trained, and carried out the 9/11 attacks were evil. It's very simple is it not. There can be no moral justification for 9/11. If you think so then you are a hopeless moron like Ward Churchill.

The people who planned, financed, trained, and carried out the 9/11 attacks were evil.

Can't argue with that, who were they though.
Tonight i shall open a 9-11 truth movement thread.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

carried out the 9/11 attacks were evil

So you think Bush and the Pentagon are evil ? agree with that

Originally Posted by stroller

So the world is black and white?
And the US and yourself present the 'white'?

When will you start responding to what posters say, rather than tossing about terms like 'moonbats' and 'anti-war crowd'?

Have you read Mhz's post:

...Most of the muslim clerics are uneducated and their followers as well.So if you are a good citizen of a good society then you should stop giving those clerics a chance to cause chaos. ...

I guess this isn't worth responding too, because it doesn't fit your image of an "Arab" (as you refered to Mhz earlier), "Islamist" or whatever terms you usually categorise people in?

I did write out a thoughtful response yesterday but the server I was using decided to 11kbps on me!

Anyway I missed that statement by Mhz.
I'd say the west is doing much to help in the education process. It's will probably take a generation though. Because we have several generations of hate mongering and ignorance to deal with.
Couple that with the fact that the USA and west are beset with their own issues concerning corruption, power, crime, greed, and so on.

One of the reasons the USA works is we haven't been systematically trying to eradicate the intellectuals and professionals as the many leftist and fascist regimes have done over the years. The US actually produces. The free enterprise system while not perfect does offer opportunities not found in repressive regimes.
To see it all you have to do is open your eyes!

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

carried out the 9/11 attacks were evil

So you think Bush and the Pentagon are evil ? agree with that

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

One of the reasons the USA works is we haven't been systematically trying to eradicate the intellectuals and professionals as the many leftist and fascist regimes have done over the years. The US actually produces. The free enterprise system while not perfect does offer opportunities not found in repressive regimes.
To see it all you have to do is open your eyes!

This thread is not the appropriate place to raise the American flag and praise your country, but I can see how this diverts from "War Lovers".

In Your Heart You Know She's Right:

^
Yep, these are good examples of 'war-lovers'.
I mean the caption on the T-shirt, as well as the comment by the poster.

^ Ann Coulter is a vapid bitch. She deserverd to be ass raped and gang raped by an AQ cell.

I've read a couple of Coulter's books. She made a lot of historical statements are not just opinions, but opinions that can be proven false based on historical context. She's not an intellectual, but she is a former Lawyer.

She writes in the style she does to sell a lot of books to Americans that are simple.

Her simplicity, slogans, and acerbic "shock-style" works.

This is why it's dangerous.

Her next book is due out on June 6th.

Shock-style spin doctors entertain the masses.

Originally Posted by stroller

^
Yep, these are good examples of 'war-lovers'.
I mean the caption on the T-shirt, as well as the comment by the poster.

Yeah...but you know she's right.
Deep down in that Hun heart of yours, you know...

Sorry, Booners, but I do have a brain, and I dislike war as well as religious fanatics.

You're on your own.

^^ even if it was true, what make you think we would succeed ? what if we failed and became convert after they killed our leaders ? what would you do ? become a terrorist ?

Originally Posted by Milkman

I've read a couple of Coulter's books. She made a lot of historical statements are not just opinions, but opinions that can be proven false based on historical context. She's not an intellectual, but she is a former Lawyer.

She writes in the style she does to sell a lot of books to Americans that are simple.

Her simplicity, slogans, and acerbic "shock-style" works.

This is why it's dangerous.

Her next book is due out on June 6th.

Shock-style spin doctors entertain the masses.

Then you have to agree that Michael Moore fits in the same pod.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Milkman

I've read a couple of Coulter's books. She made a lot of historical statements are not just opinions, but opinions that can be proven false based on historical context. She's not an intellectual, but she is a former Lawyer.

She writes in the style she does to sell a lot of books to Americans that are simple.

Her simplicity, slogans, and acerbic "shock-style" works.

This is why it's dangerous.

Her next book is due out on June 6th.

Shock-style spin doctors entertain the masses.

Then you have to agree that Michael Moore fits in the same pod.

I agree Absolutely, SK.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

In Your Heart You Know She's Right:

And they will just sit and watch.

How many more 9/11 will happen??

Originally Posted by Milkman

I agree Absolutely, SK.

I shouldn't even be starting back up answering you after the way you futtbucked me on the other forum.

"The Liberals always totally ignore the fact that there is another large grouping in the community who are also most emphatic about the undesirability of war -- i.e. war-veterans (or "ex-Diggers" in Australian parlance). And war-veterans are also both overwhelmingly conservative and in favour of military strength and preparedness." (Jon Jay Ray)