Better a Kraut who locks their retarded kids an offspring in a basement for 25 years...
Yes indeed. Much better a fucking closet pedophile than a nationally vetted candidate.
Are you an idiot or are you PH's kin?
Better a Kraut who locks their retarded kids an offspring in a basement for 25 years...
Yes indeed. Much better a fucking closet pedophile than a nationally vetted candidate.
Are you an idiot or are you PH's kin?
Na, na, na losing your temper there Texy.
That guy was an Austrian not german. Commenting or making fun of this terrible tragedy shows me that you must come from a sub-low-culture.
McCain lost FIVE US Aircrafts
Well then good sir, take your vote and cast it for a chicken that might crap on square Number 12.
We'll all applaud your decision and kindly tell you to fuck off when the US presidential election comes around.
Because despite how much you yap about it, Your opinion means __ ZILCH! SQUAT! NAUGHT!
Beyond that, you're German opinion factors is about .00000007 in American decisionmaking.
Thanks for your input.Hope you didn't waste a heavy breath on it.

^ Now, now, Tex. The krauts were smart enough to vote in Merkel coz she speaks Russian. Do they know something we don't? Mebbe McC better keep Condi on staff.
Not Amused ! How does he talk about his nationally vetted fellow americans? He's a Vice President...let's not forget.
***UPDATE*** Akers reports that Cheney has now apologized for his West Virginia incest joke:
Vice President Dick Cheney has apologized through his spokeswoman for making an offhand joke during a speech at the National Press Club Monday stereotyping West Virginia as a state prone to incest.Mary Ann Akers of the Washington Post asks if West Virginia was just handed to the Democrats when Dick Cheney made an incest joke at West Virginians' expense:
Cheney spokeswoman Lea Anne McBride tells us, "The Vice President's offhand comment was not meant to hurt anyone. On reflection, he concluded that it was an inappropriate attempt at humor that he should not have made. The Vice President apologizes to the people of West Virginia for the inappropriate remark."
Cheney was at the Press Club to congratulate this year's winners of the Gerald R. Ford Journalism Prize for Distinguished Reporting on the Presidency. During a question-and-answer session toward the end of the luncheon, someone asked the vice president about his wife Lynne Cheney's revelation on MSNBC last year that "Dick and Barack Obama are eighth cousins."Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia was not amused:
The questioner jokingly asked the vice president if he and Obama were going to have a family reunion, to which Cheney replied he would "have no objections" though he said he doubted Obama would want one - "certainly not before November."
Then came the offensive punch line. Cheney explained that during the course of researching his family lineage for Lynne's memoir "Blue Skies, No Fences" last year, he learned there were Cheneys on both his father's and his mother's side of the family. There was a Richard Cheney on his mother's side, the vice president said.
"So I had Cheneys on both sides of the family and we don't even live in West Virginia," Cheney quipped.
"That a man who has ascended to the seat of Vice President of the United States would openly display such contempt and astounding ignorance toward his own countrymen is an insult to all Americans. Now that he or the Administration he represents no longer needs their vote, Mr. Cheney apparently feels that he is now free to mock and belittle the people of West Virginia. With his trademark arrogance, the Vice President even added 'You can say those things when you're not running for re-election.'"
"This pitiful comment is not entirely surprising when you consider the source. Vice President Cheney's words reflect the attitude of an administration and a party that says what they must to get elected and then turns their backs on those they promised to represent."

^Shocking.
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First impresions go a long way in forming opinion and are usually pretty accurate.
Just looking at Sarah Palin you can see she is out of her depth, then when you look at her previous achievements it becaomes very apparrent that she will not be able to represent the US on an international level at a time of such turmoil in the world.
Those that defend her here are simply unwilling to admit the obvious.

i'll admit the obvious, that's not her role.. but it would be Obama's so your right that is major concern to consider on his part....Originally Posted by ItsRobsLife
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Uh... so you'll admit that she's not up to the job, but counter that by attacking Obama.
This is about Palin.
Obama is the other half dozen threads.
Bottom line, as a non US citizen and pretty average guy on the street, I'd say choosing Palin as VP has pretty much given the election to the Democrats.
But then the US voters aren't exactly known for well considered judgement.

This spite of the "obvious":
I'm confused now what's the "obvious" part?Originally Posted by robski
To me; given her credentials of doing battle with big oil, AK corrupt politicians and having an overall attractive likability, McCain's choice here was a stroke of pure brilliance. Now that's obvious.
Face it moonbats, this lady has depth you can only dream about for thin skinned Barry.![]()

^ I beg to differ, Mr Earl. BO has really thick skin. Must be from all those Rev Wright sermons.

^ She doesn't want to be a politician. Same same Powell. Too classy.

^^Rice is also too smart. She'll likely go back to Stanford as a professor. Which is what Obama will do after he gets his ass handed to him in November and can't get re-elected as a senator.![]()

^ Yep. Way too smart. I heard that before that she wants to return to academia. Hopefully whoever gets in will still use her for counsel.

^Rice makes an outstanding US secretary of state. McCain should keep her on for a while, imho.

Can't help it, eh Texpat? Making completely inadequate remarks, confused about countries (Oh Austria is NOT Australia, just to help you along), insults etc . . .
Cujo and Texpat . . . what a lovely couple, or can you actually debate something sensibly? Now that's a joke.
('kin' is a yokel word, mate . . . is that why you are so smitten by Palin?)

sarah 'stonewall' palin installed a tanning bed in the governor's mansion.
Sarah Palin installed a tanning bed at the governor's mansion | The Dish Rag | Los Angeles Times
and apparently the defense being put up by her supporters is that it helps her depression.
what?
a bit off topic, but OKOriginally Posted by Milkman
earl, how has rice been an 'outstanding' secretary of state?
this should be amusing.
Newsweek is finally able to report what I have been waiting for.
Palins numbers begin to dip.
To know her, it seems, is not necessarily to love her.
When John McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running mate late last month, the Alaska governor quickly became a media phenomenon. Largely unknown, she existed at first in something of an information vacuum, and due to the shock of her selection--everyone loves a surprise--the press rushed to fill the void with whatever data was easily available. Mostly this consisted of human interest material; Palin had plenty to go around. Mooseburgers. Float planes. Ice Fishing. Beauty pageants. Teen pregnancy. Et cetera. By the end of her first 15 minutes in the spotlight--which included her speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul--Palin existed mostly as an idea: a frontier supermom who'd triumphed over adversity (the Ol' Boys Club, the "liberal media"). Palin spent her first week reading from a teleprompter and avoiding questions from the press--and the public--so as not to sully this positive first impression.
The polls reflected the early success of her strategy. In the three days after Palin joined Team McCain--Aug. 29-31--32 percent of voters told the pollsters at Diageo/Hotline that they had a favorable opinion of her; most (48 percent) didn't know enough to say. (The Diageo/Hotline poll is conducted by Financial Dynamics opinion research; it's the only daily tracking poll to regularly publish approval ratings.) By Sept. 4, however, 43 percent of Diageo/Hotline respondents approved of Palin with only 25 percent disapproving--an 18-point split. Apparently, voters were liking what they were hearing. Four days later, Palin's approval rating had climbed to 47 percent (+17), and by Sept. 13 it had hit 52 percent. The gap at that point between her favorable and unfavorable numbers--22 percent--was larger than either McCain's (+20) or Obama's (+13).
But then a funny thing happened: Palin seems to have lost some of her luster. Since Sept. 13, Palin's unfavorables have climbed from 30 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, her favorables have slipped from 52 percent to 48 percent. That's a three-day net swing of -10 points, and it leaves her in the Sept. 15 Diageo/Hotline tracking poll tied for the smallest favorability split (+12)** of any of the Final Four. Over the course of a single weekend, in other words, Palin went from being the most popular White House hopeful to the least.
What happened? *First, it's important to note that Palin's approval rating hasn't tanked. Far from it. And we should hold off on drawing any hard and fast conclusions until more polling comes out.* That said, I suspect that we're starting to see Palin's considerable novelty wear off. In part it's the result of a steady stream of controversial stories: her apparent unfamiliarity with the Bush Doctrine during last Thursday's interview with Charles Gibson (video above); her refusal to cooperate with the Troopergate investigation; her repeated stretching of the truth on everything from earmarks to the "Bridge to Nowhere" to the amount of energy her state produces. That stuff has a way of inspiring disapproval and eroding one's support. (Interestingly, Palin's preparedness numbers--about 50 percent yes, 45 percent no--haven't budged.) But I'd argue that it's the start of an inevitable process. Between now and Nov. 4, voters will stop seeing Palin as a fascinating story and starting taking her measure as an actual candidate for office. Some will approve; some won't. It remains to be seen whether Palin's recent slide will continue, or hurt John McCain in the polls. But it's hard to argue that the journey from intriguing new superstar to earthbound politician--a necessary part of the process--doesn't involve a loss of altitude.
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it was only a matter of time.Originally Posted by aging one
americans (particularly women) are starting to realize what a wacky fundamentalist christian she is.
she wants to outlaw abortion--even in the case of rape and incest.
when she was mayor, her town also charged rape victims for rape kits.
and this is in addition to all the ethics scandals swirling around her.
it's going to be a fun 6 weeks.

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