The View, from Russia.

**Neverna** · 08-07-2024, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Norton has not, and he should not bother. The evidence is open source and overwhelming to anyone with open eyes. I posted up three compelling sources that were responses to pootins manifesto. [

You have no facts to post, snubs, you're just posting propaganda, opinion, speculation, supposition, following the approved narrative, and pretending that it's all fact. It ain't. Of course, I wouldn't expect a dumb American like you to know the difference when you're drunk, but when sober I had high hopes. My bad.

And of course, it goes without saying, this is TD and facts are not required, and not really encouraged. Carry on, General Snubs.

**OhOh** · 08-07-2024, 01:14 AM

**pickel** · 08-07-2024, 03:19 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Russia did not and, possibly even now, has not invaded Ukraine sovereign territory. They are still in Russian Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia oblasts.

On 30 September 2022, Russia, declared its annexation of areas in and around four Ukrainian oblasts—Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia

Do you get slapped a lot when you open your mouth in public?

Even if I allowed your above bullshit, what oblasts are Bucha, Izium, and Hostomel airport in?

**Neverna** · 08-07-2024, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Russia did not and, possibly even now, has not invaded Ukraine sovereign territory. They are still in Russian Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia oblasts.

On 30 September 2022, Russia, declared its annexation of areas in and around four Ukrainian oblasts—Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia

As such there has been no invasion.

You are bonkers if you believe all that, OhOh.

Are you not aware that Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022? Or is that fake news?

**Norton** · 08-07-2024, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Neverna

All helge did was ask Norton for a link to support Norton's claim. So far Norton has not.

Forum: Speakers Corner

Air your opinion on current world affairs. A forum for civil discussion and exchange of ideas. No flaming or abuse allowed. All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting.

Hillbilly and I pushed, against what the rest of the mods were against, to get Speakers Corner added to TD. We persisted and finally DD relented with the proviso that I be the lead mod. From day one, links were never required. Since, this forum has devolved into a series of cut and paste posts from sources which support the poster's preformed preferrence.

Somewhere along the way from my birth in early WW2 I have been an avid consumer of history and have learned not to rely on what a particular political leader says but rather what he and his government done or are doing. In Putin's case, he did not say he intended to rebuild a Russian Empire based on the old Soviet Union but given his actions and statements one can only conclude this is exactly his intention. He has stated the fall of the USSR was the worst thing in history, he has invaded Ukraine territory in the Crimea and the East, he attempted to capture Kiev but failed, he has inferred he will use nuclear weapons on anyone opposing him in his invasion of the Ukraine.

From all these it is my conclusion Putin does want to completly invade and occupy the entire Ukraine and will continue to undo the worst disaster in modern history by following up with the invasion of other former Soviet nations.

Norton's opionion only. How about those here with other opinions state them without walls of cut and paste posts from a source that shares your opinion.

Note, I have opinions like this related to Isreal's war in Gaza and the West bank. Bet those here who are pro Russian anti West would agree even though you won't find a specific link where Netanyahu has said what he intends to do just that.

https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner...ml#post4609110 (Hamas Attack, breakout from Gaza many rockets fired)

Maybe just another Biden moment Helge?

**bsnub** · 08-07-2024, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Neverna

You have no facts to post, snubs, you're just posting propaganda, opinion, speculation, supposition, following the approved narrative, and pretending that it's all fact.

You are fucking idiot, full stop. That entire comment is complete nonsense. Thanks for proving my point you touchy tankie bitch.

Originally Posted by Neverna

It ain't. Of course, I wouldn't expect a dumb American like you to know the difference when you're drunk, but when sober I had high hopes. My bad.

As I said your post is unfounded nonsense so do eat shit. You are just another pootin cock smoker, and you have proven it time and time again.

This is the post that triggered you...

Originally Posted by bsnub

At this point you have a history of being a bit of a tankie and your mate Helga is clearly a vatnik who worships vlads micro-penis.

If after three years of real genocidal warfare against Ukraine you need any further "evidence" than you are a clown and nothing more.

The onus is on you to prove otherwise. I await your evidence to the contrary.

Far from propaganda you stupid fucking vatnik. It hits the nail on the head and you could not handle the truth. No go back in your bubble and continue smoking pootins cock.

**OhOh** · 08-07-2024, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

In the interview Orban says that ther will be another surprise on monday morning.

A discussion with Xi Jinping

8 Jul, 2024 03:15

HomeWorld News

Xi Jinping meets Hungarian PM

The Chinese leader has welcomed Viktor Orban to Beijing.

"Chinese President Xi Jinping held a meeting with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who is currently in Beijing on what he previously dubbed a peacekeeping mission, Xinhua reported on Monday morning.

“China is a key power in creating the conditions for peace in the Russia-Ukraine war. This is why I came to meet with President Xi in Beijing, just two months after his official visit to Budapest,” Orban wrote in a post on X (formerly Twitter).

The details of the meeting have yet to be revealed, but it comes in the wake of Orban’s trips to Kiev and Moscow last week. The Hungarian PM called the Beijing trip a “peace mission 3.0” upon his arrival.

Orban embarked on his “peacekeeping mission” last week with an unannounced trip to Kiev, where he proposed a “quick ceasefire” to Ukraine’s President Vladimir Zelensky. The Hungarian PM then traveled to Moscow to discuss the “shortest way out” of the conflict with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Moscow and Kiev’s positions remain very “far apart,” according to Orban, who noted that Zelensky “didn’t like” his proposals much. Meanwhile, Putin reiterated Moscow’s readiness to resolve hostilities through negotiations but noted that the Ukrainian leadership appears committed to waging war “until the end.”

Orban’s meeting with Putin angered some fellow EU leaders, while Kiev expressed fury that the Hungarian leader went to Russia “without approval or coordination with Ukraine.”

Xi Jinping meets Hungarian PM — RT World News

**kingwilly** · 08-07-2024, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Russia did not and, possibly even now, has not invaded Ukraine sovereign territory.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Frequent air raid alarms and power outages have further disrupted their education, leading to significant learning losses and long-term implications for their development.

Access to health-care services has also been limited due to damage to health facilities and displacement of health workers, severely impacting children’s health."

These services are under the control of Ukraine entities.

Unbelievable.

**OhOh** · 08-07-2024, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

How about those here with other opinions state them without walls of cut and paste posts from a source that shares your opinion.

My opinion.

As the tread title states, I post here official full reports from the main Russian actors completely. Their public announcements. In addition respected "experts" opinions who have much more experiences of theses types of issues than I.

Otherwise these are typical examples from some members responses/opinions.

Originally Posted by bsnub

As I said your post is unfounded nonsense so do eat shit. You are just another pootin cock smoker, and you have proven it time and time again.

All of us here have the option of reading a thread, a post, or not. Commenting on the thread or not, of other members posts, politely.

The mods decide what is or not, acceptable.

Are the mods allowed to post under their their own name ?

**OhOh** · 08-07-2024, 03:30 PM

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**kingwilly** · 08-07-2024, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

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I don’t need a link for that absurdity.

**bsnub** · 08-07-2024, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

My opinion.

Your "opinion" is basically regurgitating what the kremlin and CCP tell you to say.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

I don’t need a link for that absurdity.

Nobody does.

**david44** · 08-07-2024, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

From all these it is my conclusion Putin does want to completly invade and occupy the entire Ukraine and will continue to undo the worst disaster in modern history by following up with the invasion of other former Soviet nations.

Thanks Norts couldn't put it any better we don't need proof he lied or invaded in 2014 nor murdered opponents with poison in the UK we have facts, occupied Crimea, dead bodies parentss of abduted, gravess and witnesss to Bucha and other outrages.

While USA may elect a liar it is tragic our mods delete innocuos pictures of the Bosphorus on my own rebuttal of backspin Turkey not in Europe 120 pages and fotos on my San Francisco thread yet allow endless defence and aplogsts fo Xi Putin, all I can say to OHho Nev and Helge you are judged by the company you keep and the aroma of death hubris and imaginary impunity may fool the tired mods but no one else who loves freedom justice and democracy.

**kingwilly** · 08-07-2024, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by david44

all I can say to OHho Nev and Helge you are judged by the company you keep and the aroma of death hubris and imaginary impunity may fool the tired mods but no one else who loves freedom justice and democracy.

**OhOh** · 08-07-2024, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by david44

tired mods but no one else who loves freedom justice and democracy.

Our mods took on a role by their own choice.

I hope you continue to enjoy your "freedom justice and democracy".

Good luck.

**david44** · 08-07-2024, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

I hope you continue to enjoy your "freedom justice and democracy

living in LOS I can only admire those lucuries who have it, and deplore those who have it but eschew it for the Ukrainian children capsice?

I notice you have more cut and pastes but nothing to say about the abducted, you should be ashamed of your disdain for the bereft prents and the kidnapped children?

**OhOh** · 08-07-2024, 10:50 PM

Here is one report on the topic.

It suggests there are avenues for children to be reunited with their families. Either in Russia, Ukraine, or other countries, depending where their family are.

22 MAY, 19:28

Qatar helps Russia reunite six Ukrainian children with families

Qatari Ambassador to Moscow Ahmed bin Nasser bin Jassim Al-Thani thanked Maria Lvova-Belova for her efforts and contribution

MOSCOW, May 22. /TASS/.

"Russia has reunited six Ukrainian children with their families in coordination with Qatar, whose embassy hosted their reconciliations in Moscow, a TASS correspondent reports.

The group consists of six boys aged 6-17, including a pair of brothers. Qatari Ambassador to Moscow Ahmed bin Nasser bin Jassim Al-Thani took part in the event. Besides, it was attended by Maria Lvova-Belova, the Russian presidential commissioner for children’s rights.

During his address, the Qatari ambassador noted that "a very good thing is being done." "I would like to thank Maria Lvova-Belova for her efforts and contribution," he said. "We wish the children all the best, that they have a good life, that everything works out for them. We hope this cooperation will continue," he added.

Maria Lvova-Belova’s press service recalled that in April in Doha the sides made a list of 29 children who currently live in Russia.

"We are working on reuniting them with their relatives in Ukraine. There are also 11 children living in Ukraine whose relatives are waiting for them in Russia. Today’s meeting is a result of these agreements," Lvova-Belova said, quoted by the press service.

As of today, under the Russian presidential commissioner for children’s rights’ assistance, 70 children have been reunited with their families in Ukraine and other countries. Six of them reunited with four families in Russia. The process is preceded by the work of a human rights body with the participation of regional children's ombudsmen and representatives of specialized agencies, as well as active negotiations with the Ukrainian side under the mediation of Qatari diplomats."

Qatar helps Russia reunite six Ukrainian children with families - Society & Culture - TASS

An earlier report.

18 Jun, 2023 00:58

HomeRussia & FSU

Moscow acted correctly in moving Ukrainian children – Putin
The minors were evacuated from combat zones, the Russian leader explained.

Moscow acted correctly in moving Ukrainian children – Putin — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

**david44** · 08-07-2024, 11:02 PM

As 29 kids murdered in a children' hospital

no link its all over the news thoe already ick kids must have been a big threat to Putin

**OhOh** · 08-07-2024, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by david44

all over the news

A link would be usefull.

**Neverna** · 09-07-2024, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by david44

While USA may elect a liar it is tragic our mods delete innocuos pictures of the Bosphorus on my own rebuttal of backspin Turkey not in Europe 120 pages and fotos on my San Francisco thread yet allow endless defence and aplogsts fo Xi Putin, all I can say to OHho Nev and Helge you are judged by the company you keep

Well, david, I keep company here on TD with you and snubby so I must be a drunkard. Hic.

And you must be somewhat absinthe minded today because I have previously posted that I am on neither side in this war. I am against war and I'd be delighted if the war stopped tomorrow. I am cheering nor apologising for no-one, and as far as I can see, neither is helge. Your problem (and General Snubby's) is that you can't accept that some people have decided not to take sides. You just want blind obedience to your cause and, oddly, believe that anyone not sucking Zalensky's cock must be sucking Putin's cock. But I don't roll that way, david. I'm happy to be a distant observer. It's not my war, it's yet another war between two foreign countries that I have no connection to, no love for, nor hate for. Of course it's tragic for those involved but that's the hell of war. As bsnub put it so eloquently last year...

Originally Posted by bsnub

Unfortunate, but these things happen in war.

**david44** · 09-07-2024, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by Neverna

And you must be somewhat absinthe minded today because I have previously posted that I am on neither side in this war. I am against war and I'd be delighted if the war stopped tomorrow.

fair and witty riposte, comment deserves a green cabbage

**OhOh** · 09-07-2024, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by Neverna

Are you not aware that Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022? Or is that fake news?

My apologies I forgot that move. And Russia quickly went home and started talks with Ukraine.

**pickel** · 09-07-2024, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

And Russia quickly went home and started talks with Ukraine.

Link?

**helge** · 09-07-2024, 02:29 AM

.....

**kingwilly** · 09-07-2024, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

My apologies I forgot that move. And Russia quickly went home and started talks with Ukraine.

With cups of tea on pretty saucers?

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