Hamas Attack, breakout from Gaza many rockets fired

**david44** · 06-12-2023, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by helge

Does smell a little better now

The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history,’ said Hegel the German thinker

not to be confused with top 4 posterboy Helge the Danish Fill Officer

**snakeeyes** · 08-12-2023, 01:03 PM

**malmomike77** · 08-12-2023, 01:40 PM

^ What is genocidal about that statement?

**Slimmer** · 08-12-2023, 01:53 PM

Thse fat bastard terrorists could go with eating less food

**FelixTheCat** · 08-12-2023, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by malmomike77

^ What is genocidal about that statement?

It does not support hamas...

**HermantheGerman** · 08-12-2023, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by david44

Are you from neutral Switzerland I thought that avatar is close o the Fuhrerbunker where the Austrian and millions of doting Germans who elected him in a free choice corporal started the war the killed 60 million in living memory.

Luckily the allies you reviled despite the temptation chose not to Gas/castrate /poison all the remaining Germans or treat them way they treated non combatant civilians everywhere they occupied mass murders from Talinn in the North to desert death camps even Shark Island in Namibia.
Sure others did similar from Brutish Empire to modern Afghanistan. However it is a bit rich to omit Germany from such crimes. The grovelling to Israel even by Scholz reflects the knowledge and hiding cover ups that dad and grandad were among the mass murderers many of whom hopped off to USA orr Latin America unpunished .

The Swiss of course just stored the blood gold

Doesn't change the fact that:

...biggest war criminals this world has ever seen (Britain, France, Russia,U.S.A.). They just don't give a shit about their past

Is your Fuehrerbunker still the Buckingham Palace, Balmoral Castel, Kensington Palace, Adelaide Cottage, Windsor Castle, Frogmore Castle, Clarence House, Sandringham House, Highgrove House, or St. James Palace.
By the way, have you returned all your stolen colonial-era artefacts yet. I guess we don't need to talk about reparations since your all broke.
Just keep beating on some Nazi Krauts, if it makes you feel better and justified.

**david44** · 08-12-2023, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

By the way, have you returned all your stolen colonial-era artefacts yet

You seem to be confusing me with the English perhaps, to be fair to them their fathers and grandfathers fought to liberate France et al from German fascism with a lot of help from volunteer from Ireland Free French Poles, Czechoslovaks, Danes Belgians and Norwegian resistance , USA, Anzac, Canadian and of course largely overlooked Greeks, Yugoslavs and Russians who paid the heaviest price.

**HermantheGerman** · 08-12-2023, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by david44

You seem to be confusing me with the English perhaps, to be fair to them their fathers and grandfathers fought to liberate France et al from German fascism with a lot of help from volunteer from Ireland Free French Poles, Czechoslovaks, Danes Belgians and Norwegian resistance , USA, Anzac, Canadian and of course largely overlooked Greeks, Yugoslavs and Russians who paid the heaviest price.

So your skeletons in the closet don't wear a Union Jack.

I'am sure Mr. Schickelgruber is looking up from hell and singing: "I got by with a little help from my....."

We are all guilty!
Reminds me a bit of Climate Change. Some people deny it and even claim they are not part of it.

**david44** · 08-12-2023, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Mr. Schickelgruber

Cannot even get the name right

Not sure how citizens of neutral countries that were colonized are guilty or is it being able to spell a name all genuine Germans know Schicklgruber.

**taxexile** · 08-12-2023, 09:09 PM

Reminds me a bit of Climate Change. Some people deny it and even claim they are not part of it.

... you rang?

**taxexile** · 08-12-2023, 09:43 PM

well well well, who'd a thunk it? surely not!!!

thats one brave woman calling hamas out, whilst the lily livered aid workers, the cowardly un, the jew hating bbc, the crowd of loons behind her and even the al jizz reporter interviewing her seem to have trouble with the truth.

**snakeeyes** · 08-12-2023, 11:27 PM

^^
FFS , The old lady is off her head on drugs magic mushrooms and lets be honest them Israeli cnuts hostages do fook all but eat the cnuts are getting free bed & breakfast their down them tunnels playing the Xbox they don't want to be freed

**helge** · 09-12-2023, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

So your skeletons in the closet don't wear a Union Jack.

The winners write the history, Herman.

Despite the fact, that you have nothing whatsoever to do with the crimes, that Germany commited, some will use it against you, to silence you.

Sadly many of you have silenced yourself.

Good that you speak your mind.

Now repeat after me :

Scholz is a Piss Ant and the Greens are fascists

**HermantheGerman** · 09-12-2023, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by david44

Cannot even get the name right

Not sure how citizens of neutral countries that were colonized are guilty or is it being able to spell a name all genuine Germans know Schicklgruber.

Neutral my ass!!! You sound like some orthodox slavic asshole who thinks he's free of sins.
Today you learned how to google Schicklgruber. Sorry I spelled it wrong, but at least you learned something today Davey

**HermantheGerman** · 09-12-2023, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by helge

The winners write the history, Herman.

No! People with money and influence do.

Spielberg and Co. come to mind.

Scholz is a Piss Ant and the Greens have lost their color.

Originally Posted by helge

Despite the fact, that you have nothing whatsoever to do with the crimes, that Germany commited, some will use it against you, to silence you.

Why do you think I chose a provocative name like "HermantheGerman"? It brings out the true color of (some) people

**david44** · 09-12-2023, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Sorry I spelled it wrong, but at least you learned something today Davey

Genau sonst noch?

**malmomike77** · 09-12-2023, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Why do you think I chose a provocative name like "HermantheGerman"? It brings out the true color of (some) people

Despite your tailors best efforts he cannot mask those fukin huge chips on your shoulders

i

**Norton** · 09-12-2023, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

truth

People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe

**harrybarracuda** · 09-12-2023, 07:54 AM

Of course it did. And spineless Sunak kept his head down.

A United Nations Security Council resolution to demand a ceasefire in Gaza has failed after it was vetoed by the US.
Of the 15 representatives on the UN member council, 13 voted to back the call but the US blocked it and the UK abstained.

Israel-Hamas war: UN Security Council resolution to demand ceasefire in Gaza fails | World News | Sky News

**david44** · 09-12-2023, 01:39 PM

11m ago06.23 GMT
Avril Benoît, executive director of Médecins Sans Frontières US, has said the US’ decision to veto a UN resolution calling for a ceasefire “makes it complicit in the carnage in Gaza.”

Benoît said in a statement:Israel has continued to indiscriminately attack civilians and civilian structures, impose a siege that amounts to collective punishment for the entire population of Gaza, force mass displacement, and deny access to vital medical care and humanitarian assistance. The US continues to provide political and financial support to Israel as it prosecutes its military operations regardless of the terrible toll on civilians. For humanitarians to be able to respond to the overwhelming needs, we need a ceasefire now.

The US veto makes it complicit in the carnage in Gaza.”

Read the Guardian’s full report on the recent events at the security council here.

**david44** · 09-12-2023, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe

Wise word witnessed here daily Norts cabbage owed

**Slimmer** · 09-12-2023, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Scholz is a Piss Ant

Is he back again ?

**misskit** · 10-12-2023, 05:41 AM

Robbed, Silenced, and Betrayed: Why Gazans Turned Away From Hamas

KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip—It is incredibly difficult for them to say so in public, but many Palestinians in Gaza are furious with Hamas, their de facto rulers who invited a brutal Israeli backlash by launching the Oct. 7 attacks.

The Daily Beast was told to stop reporting and forced to delete videos while working on this story, but we can report that residents of Gaza say they have been robbed, silenced, and betrayed by Hamas.

As lawlessness rises in the smoldering rubble of Gaza, one resident said Hamas operatives stole valuables from her and other women.

A 45-year-old female refugee told The Daily Beast that Hamas agents were instructing women to remove their gold jewelry and cellphones before reaching an Israeli checkpoint on Salah al-Din—the main road through the center of Gaza—warning that these items might be confiscated or cause problems during inspection.

“I don’t know if it was naive of us, but we complied and handed over our mobiles. I even removed my ring, like other women with their jewelry,” she said. “We easily passed through the checkpoint and continued walking north. Despite feeling exhausted, we realized we had been deceived into surrendering our belongings.”

When The Daily Beast was talking to a group of people about their attitude toward Hamas and their feelings about the prisoner swaps, an agent from the Interior Ministry in civilian clothes approached and asked us to stop the interviews and delete our recordings.

Another Hamas agent inside a hospital in Gaza also asked The Daily Beast to delete videos showing the crowds of injured people in a hospital corridor.

“There is no democracy in Gaza when you want to speak against Hamas or its de facto government. We fear they will arrest us during the war, or after the war if we spoke against them. They can easily kill us even, and tell the world we are spies,” said Hasan Ahmed, 39, who was in the hospital with his injured brother.

“My brother needs his bandages changed daily. They attend to some of their patients promptly, but when it comes to my brother, they change the bandages every two or three days. This has reached a point where maggots have emerged from the wound. I shouted at the nurses, creating chaos until they reluctantly changed the dressing. I have to repeat this process every two days to save my brother’s hand from amputation.”

Conditions outside the hospitals are also deteriorating, and Hamas is proving incapable of maintaining law and order amid difficult circumstances.

Salam Tareq, 33, said food costs had skyrocketed in the Tuffah neighborhood in eastern Gaza City, and that he was unable to feed his family properly.

“The bakeries stopped operating. My children aren’t eating,” he said. “Thieves are spreading in our area. They are going to the evacuated houses, even the partially destroyed ones, and they steal everything possible. Canned food, wheat packages, gas cylinders, solar energy panels to sell in the market.”

He blamed Hamas for failing to prepare for the ramifications of its assault on Israel on Oct. 7.

“I want to know what Hamas’ plan was for this situation. People lost their houses by Israeli strikes and have now lost their remaining belongings to thieves,” he said. “Even inside Gaza City, thieves are using knives to threaten those who come back to their cars and take their food by force. One of our neighbors was stabbed by one of the street thieves.”

“My neighbor saw police attacking potential thieves and killed one of them. Not sure if the killing was because they stole the items or because they are one of the spies,” he said. “Before they went to attack Israel on Oct. 7, they should have ensured that Gaza was flooded with food and medical items. People here will die of hunger.”

Even those with family members who supported the Hamas attack on Israel have been left feeling badly let down.

Um Ahmed, 55, who lives in al-Nuseirat refugee camp in southern Gaza, said her son joined the raid over the border on Oct. 7 despite her warnings. She hasn’t heard from him since, but says he has been spotted in a prison in Jerusalem.

She wants to know why Hamas has failed to secure his release in exchange for the Israeli hostages. “Hamas recently conducted a swap deal, releasing prisoners in the West Bank. However, our sons, captured on Oct. 7, remain in Israeli jails. We live in uncertainty about their well-being,” she said.

“Hamas has lost support in Gaza. Now it strives to gain favor in the West Bank, recognizing its failure here. People in Gaza fear Hamas, and the organization’s efforts are concentrated on winning support elsewhere.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/robbed...=home?ref=home

**OhOh** · 10-12-2023, 01:30 PM

Christmas 2023.

Hamas Attack, breakout from Gaza many rockets fired-christmass-2023-jpg

Jesus Buried Under Rubble in Bethlehem

Finian Cunningham

December 7, 2023

Biden, Netanyahu and all Western enablers are the Herod figures of today who 2,000 years ago massacred infants in an attempt to kill the Son of God.

"All the Christian Churches in Bethlehem will not be celebrating Christmas in the usual way this year. There will be religious services and prayers but there will be no festivities and lights.

Amen to that!

The prevailing atmosphere is one of mourning and solidarity with the people of Gaza and the West Bank who are suffering genocidal violence from the Western-backed Israeli state.

Bethlehem is the historic birthplace of Jesus whom Christians believe is the Son of God. Nearly 2,000 years ago, Christians believe the “savior of the world” was born in poverty and in a humble stable in Bethlehem, a town in what is now the Occupied Palestinian West Bank territory.

Instead of the Roman Empire, we now have the U.S. and its American-armed Israeli garrison.

Every year there are usually magnificent celebrations to commemorate Christmas in Bethlehem, with a splendid lit-up giant Christmas tree aloft in the town square, along with fireworks and droves of pilgrims from all over the world.

This year, however, there will be no visitors from overseas as the West Bank and Gaza, the other Palestinian territory, are submerged in shockingly brutal military violence meted out with impunity by the Israeli state, armed to the teeth by an indulgent Washington.

The Israeli onslaught against defenseless civilians is declared by the scowl-faced Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and endorsed by Western governments, to be retaliation for a deadly attack by the militant group Hamas on October 7.

In reality, for many other observers, it is a heinous opportunistic ramping up of genocide to wipe Palestine and Palestinians off the map. The Israelis have admitted that objective. The slow-motion genocide of Palestinians that has going on for decades with American and European acquiescence (under the guise of a peace process and delivering humanitarian aid) is now hideously sped up. There is no pretence now. And it is shocking how blatant and brazen it is with no objection from the Western governments. Every day the slaughter is televised as if it were normal or excusable.

For more than 60 days, the Israeli forces have been bombarding Gaza and systematically killing Palestinians in the West Bank. The death toll has surpassed 16,000 with over 40,000 casualties. Most of the victims are children and women, with many thousands missing, buried under rubble from indiscriminate Israeli air strikes.

Over 80 per cent of the 2.2 million population in Gaza has been displaced by Israeli bombardment. Nowhere is safe in the tiny coastal enclave. Hospitals, schools, mosques, churches and United Nations-run refugee camps have been attacked.

The Biden administration’s valorizing of Israel for creating so-called safe zones is a cynical and nauseating cover for mass murder. The U.S., the European Union and Western media are all complicit in this evil charade. The daily genocide by Israel without any genuine, meaningful practical objection from the Western powers and their lapdog media is an abomination. Far from objecting, the U.S. is arming Israel with bunker-buster heavy bombs to destroy Gaza and all who live there. Washington politicians are cheering on the bloodbath.

Given the appalling war crimes and barbarous inhumanity shown by the Israeli regime, it is only right – absolutely right – that Christmas events in Bethlehem are not displaying the normal celebrations. This year, more than ever, to be a Christian means bearing witness to the slaughter of innocents and taking a stand in solidarity.

Will that give American and European so-called Christians pause for thought? The birthplace of Christ for Christ’s sake! Can it be any more contradictory?

All the Churches in Bethlehem have joined hands in solidarity with the suffering people in the Holy Land, including the Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox and Armenian Church.

Greek Patriarch in Bethlehem Father Issa Musleh explained: “This year is going to be totally different. There won’t be any lights, we will not have the Christmas tree, we will be mourning those who have been slaughtered in Gaza. There is a deep atmosphere of grief here. All the Churches have decided to only have religious services for Christmas”.

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in Bethlehem led by Pastor Munther Ishaq is replacing its normal nativity scene of the infant Jesus in a stable with a child buried under concrete rubble. It is a powerful re-enactment of the first Christmas to reflect the vile circumstances of today in Palestine.

For Christians, this depiction of Jesus under rubble in today’s Palestinian Holy Land should be perfectly consistent with the original event, not merely a modern trendy revisionism.

Pastor Ishaq said: “It is impossible to celebrate Christmas this year when our people in Gaza are going through a genocide… We wanted to send a message to the world. A message that while the whole world is celebrating Christmas in festive ways, this is what Christmas looks like to us.”

The pastor added: “Christmas is the solidarity of God with those who are oppressed, with those who are suffering. And if Jesus is to be born again this year, he will be born under the rubble in Gaza in solidarity with those who are suffering.”

This is a tremendous revelation of what it means to be a Christian today. Are we to be on the side of the oppressed or the oppressor?

The supposed great temporal powers of the United States and its Western allies are evidently siding with the oppressor Israeli state. They have always taken that side. The United States, Britain and the colonial powers set up the Zionist state in 1948 through chicanery and treachery in complete violation of the indigenous people of the Holy Land. They have sponsored 75 years of brutal oppression, state terrorism and relentless dispossession. These same powers continue to do so even while Israel is committing genocide in full view of the world.

U.S. President Joe Biden and his Western lackeys are enabling genocide while covering up their complicity with cynical words about Israel needing to exercise restraint in murdering civilians.

Arguably, anyone who does not understand Christmas in the way that the Palestinians do is not worthy to call themselves a Christian.

Those Americans and Europeans especially those who side with Zionist Israel’s so-called right to self-defence because of some twisted fundamentalist belief in God are particularly condemnable. They are a perversion of the Christian faith.

The whole world needs to commemorate Christmas with a radical difference this year. The birth of Jesus should always be a revolutionary event to commemorate. Every year, it should be centred on solidarity with people of the world who are oppressed and exploited, downtrodden and dispossessed. It’s not always clear, however, who are the righteous victims in this world and whose side God would be on. This year, it is absolutely clear and shockingly so.

Biden, Netanyahu and all Western enablers are the anti-Christ and Herod figures of today who 2,000 years ago massacred infants in an attempt to kill the Son of God.

They are the enemy of humankind in our present time of history. If there is any hope possibly coming out of the horror of Gaza and the rest of Palestine today it is the revelation to the world of just who and what (their imperialist system) are the enemies of humanity. That truth is truth to set humanity free."

Jesus Buried Under Rubble in Bethlehem — Strategic Culture

**david44** · 10-12-2023, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

who are the righteous victims in this world and whose side God would be on. This year, it is absolutely clear and shockingly so.

Biden, Netanyahu and all Western enablers are the anti-Christ and Herod figures of today who 2,000 years ago massacred infants in an attempt to kill the Son of God.

Author seems to have omitted most notably Hamas, but also like minded Islamic Jihad, ISIS, Daesh, Al Qaeda, Moros, Pattani murderers, the Houthis and Hezbollah who are also enemies of peace and of course teh Russian dictator who invaded Ukraine and Crimea if you have not been paying attention. a sad case of Bloko Haram?

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