Thread: Hamas Attack, breakout from Gaza many rockets fired

Originally Posted by david44

Mods I think time to bin it

Certainly not.

This is the real deal

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Was there any debate?

Nope

Can't be

Posters with unlimited love and affection for all jews contra decent humans.

A thread where there can be no compromise maybe except for your " turn it all into glass".

I'm starting to get your point

"DISASTER!" Columbia Prof. Jeffrey Sachs Condemns Israel's War in Gaza

Iran tells Hamas it will not enter the war with Israel
Supreme leader accuses the terror group of not giving any prior warning of the Oct 7 attacks

By
Our Foreign Staff
15 November 2023 • 7:03pm

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei says Iran will continue supporting Hamas but will not intervene directly CREDIT: Office of the Iranian Supreme Leader
Iran’s supreme leader told the head of Hamas in a face-to-face meeting in Tehran that his country would not enter the war with Israel and accused the terror group of not giving any prior warning of the Oct 7 attacks.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told Ismail Haniyeh that Iran – a longtime backer of Hamas – would continue to lend the group its political and moral support, but would not intervene directly, according to three Iranian and Hamas officials with knowledge of the discussions who asked to remain anonymous.

The supreme leader pressed Haniyeh to silence those voices in the Palestinian group publicly calling for Iran and its powerful Lebanese ally Hezbollah to join the battle against Israel in full force, a Hamas official told Reuters.

Hezbollah, too, was taken by surprise by Hamas’s devastating assault last month that killed 1,200 Israelis. Its fighters were not even on alert in villages near the border that were frontlines in its 2006 war with Israel, and had to be rapidly called up, three sources close to the Lebanese group said.

“We woke up to a war,” said a Hezbollah commander.

The unfolding crisis marks the first time that the so-called ‘axis of resistance’ – a military alliance built by Iran over four decades to oppose Israeli and American power in the Middle East – has mobilised on multiple fronts at the same time.

Hezbollah has engaged in the heaviest clashes with Israel for almost 20 years. Iran-backed militias have targeted US forces in Iraq and Syria. Yemen’s Houthis have launched missiles and drones at Israel.

thats what the strength of the israelis and the american presence in the area does.

its the only language that bullies understand. the world will swallow the temporary suffering of innocents. it is a war, and verminous scum need to be destroyed.

Originally Posted by taxexile

verminous scum need to be destroyed .

Mr. Trump, is that you?

i agree with you about netanyahu, but hamas could end it in a heartbeat by returning the hostages, hostage taking is also a "war crime" in case you have forgotten.

meanwhile pakistan is sending thousands of afghani refugees back to afghanistan to an uncertain fate and the world remains silent, and assad continues to murder thousands of muslims in syria with russian assistance and there is hardly any protest at all from the worlds handwringing hypocrites.

its the way of the world. vietnam and its horrors were soon forgotten, vietnam reimagined itself, looked to the future and now enjoy success and good relations with their oppressors.
but they are not muslims. so there is little hope for the 'stinians. their future is in the hands of themselves and their brothers in the region who need to stop using them as useful idiots in their inbred hatred of the israelis.

Not everyone in Israel supports what the government has done up to and including recent events, as two smarmy ministers who went to visit a hospital to "show their support" discovered.

See the yidz kidz as angry as the bandaged ragheads, ssounded like a Kazakh/German sssettler yiddissh speaker to me

thats what happens when you watch too much bbc news.

Originally Posted by taxexile

i agree with you about netanyahu, but hamas could end it in a heartbeat by returning the hostages,

You keep saying that, but it's just not true.

A week ago, Israel's Foreign Ministry downgraded the Israeli death toll in the war with Hamas from 1,400 to 1,200.


It did so because Israel overestimated the number of deaths, says Mark Regev, an adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.


"We made a mistake," he said in a television interview with MSNBC News.


"These were people who were so badly burned that we thought they were ours, but they turned out to be Hamas terrorists.

"These were people who were so badly burned that we thought they were ours, but they turned out to be Hamas terrorists.

Class response. Where is the unruffled business demeanour?

Originally Posted by taxexile

there is little hope for the 'stinians. their future is in the hands of themselves and their brothers in the region who need to stop using them as useful idiots in their inbred hatred of the israelis.

What's to like about the Israelis, tax?

This will get Genticles snapping, crackling and popping his Rice Crispies in the morning...
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Originally Posted by taxexile

hamas asked for a fight, and they certainly got one!

Job done then.

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Horrors of forgotten Sudan war ‘verging on pure evil’

Atrocities in West Darfur are a grim echo of the massacres seen in the region’s genocide 20 years ago, aid agencies warn

By
Ben Farmer
and
Konan Tipen
18 November 2023 • 8:00am

Ashta, 32, fled Tindelti, in the Darfur region of Sudan with her husband and six children
Sudan's humanitarian situation is rapidly deteriorating CREDIT: Colin Delfosse/UNHCR
In the seven months since Sudan was engulfed in war, Dr Mihad Yosif has faced shelling, hunger, predatory marauding troops and the disappearance of his brother.

For weeks at a time he has been afraid to leave his home and venture onto the streets, while his neighbourhood is still an occasional battlefield.

Hospitals have closed, water supplies stopped and the banks do not work. Inflation is in triple figures.

“The reality of the humanitarian situation is very dire,” Dr Yosif told the Telegraph by telephone from his home in Omdurman, across the River Nile from the capital Khartoum.

The war which first erupted in Sudan in mid-April between the Sudanese army and a paramilitary group called the Rapid Support Forces (RSF) may have since slipped from the world’s attention, but out of sight it shows no sign of ending.

Indeed many of the scenarios painted for how the conflict may develop show it only getting worse.

A man stands by as a fire rages in a livestock market area in al-Fasher, the capital of Sudan's North Darfur state, on September 1, 2023, in the aftermath of bombardment by the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF)
The war, which first erupted in mid-April, shows no sign of ending CREDIT: AFP via Getty Images
More than 10,400 people have been killed so far, according to one conservative estimate by the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data project. With hospitals largely not working and many dead being buried uncounted at home, the true toll is thought to be significantly, if not several times higher.

The United Nations estimates Sudan now has more displaced people than any other global crisis. Some six million people have fled their homes, many to neighbouring Chad and Central African Republic, while roughly half the nearly 50 million population are thought to need food aid.

Charities on the ground have warned that the atrocities committed particularly in West Darfur are a grim echo of the massacres seen during the region’s genocide 20 years ago.

A crisis with few equals
Clementine Nkweta-Salami, the United Nations humanitarian coordinator for Sudan, said last week: “What is happening is verging on pure evil.”

She warned “the situation is horrific and grim” and “frankly, we are running out of words to describe the horror of what is happening.” She stressed that “the Sudan crisis has few equals.”

The war broke out when a long-simmering rivalry between the de-facto president, Gen Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, and his deputy, Gen Mohamed Hamdan Dagaloa, known as Hemedti, boiled over. Hemedti controls the RSF.

It has had horrendous humanitarian consequences, but also threatens terrible geopolitical repercussions, observers fear.

Cameron Hudson, of the Centre for Strategic and International Studies think tank, said earlier this week that the prospects of a clean end to the conflict “appear non-existent”.

While the RSF has won some recent victories, seizing cities in Darfur, he said neither side “has demonstrated the ability to deliver a knockout blow and, in the process, continues to deliver devastating consequences to civilians”.

The resulting division of the country into fiefdoms belonging to the warring sides has led some to foresee a collapse similar to the chaos reported in Sudan’s northern neighbour, Libya.

Sudanese people who fled the conflict in Geneina in Sudan's Darfur region, sit on a truck that will relocate them from a school where they were temporarily accommodated to a refugee camp in Adre, Chad
Sudanese refugees who fled the fighting in Darfur sit in a truck as they await relocation CREDIT: ZOHRA BENSEMRA/REUTERS
Sudanese women who fled the conflict in Geneina in Sudan's Darfur region, line up to receive rice portions from Red Cross volunteers in Ourang on the outskirts of Adre, Chad
Women who fled the conflict queue at a refugee camp for Red Cross food aid CREDIT: ZOHRA BENSEMRA/REUTERS
Yet Mr Hudson warned Sudan’s size would make such a collapse even worse.

He said: “At nearly 10 times the size of its neighbour to the north, Sudan’s collapse would be cataclysmic, well beyond the extent of Libya’s collapse.

“One can imagine a scenario where tens of millions of Sudanese flee across the continent and the Red Sea to escape the country’s descent into warlordism and ethnic militia violence.”

In such a scenario, Islamist extremist groups and Russian mercenaries could be drawn into the vacuum of Sudan’s chaotic landscape.

“While ongoing conflicts in Gaza and Ukraine have captured the attention of the world, the geopolitical ripple effects of Sudan’s collapse are being woefully underestimated,” said Mr Hudson.

Fighting remains intense in Khartoum, West Darfur and parts of Kordofan.

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In the capital, which was once home to well over six million people, around two-thirds of the population have fled.

Eatizaz Yousif, Sudan director for the International Rescue Committee, said: “Khartoum now is just like a ghost city. It’s being haunted by the smell of bodies in the street. Hospitals, homes, markets: all of them being bombed or looted.”

Food is scarce and when people brave the crossfire to venture out to forage, they must contend with the predations of the warring parties.

Dr Yosif, who works for a local cultural NGO, said: “If you get a chance to get out to find food it will be taken by the army or RSF this is the problem we faced.”

Fighters from each side also expect to be fed by the local population when they set up checkpoints. Young men are taken and pressed into fighting for one side or another.

He said: “It led to the loss of most of the young men. To this day, we do not know their whereabouts. This is a real problem. I have a brother who has been missing for two months.”

In Darfur, which was riven by a genocidal conflict 20 years ago, the current fighting has turbocharged renewed ethnic conflict.


The RSF and their allied Arab militias have been accused of targeting non-Arabs such as the African Masalit ethnic group.

In one of the most recent attacks, earlier this month some 800 were reported killed when the RSF and militia rampaged through Ardamata, attacking Masalit refugees after capturing its military garrison.

The United Nations rights office said survivors and witnesses described “suffered six days of terror” for Masalit civilians, with some victims burnt alive.

Laetitia Bader, Horn of Africa director for Human Rights Watch, said: “There was a rampage, killings, especially of men, but also women. Children were also killed. Each time there is massive pillaging, looting of property and this forces people to flee again.”

Attempts at peace talks in Jeddah have made little progress and several truces have quickly been breached. Diplomats have complained that neither side appears to be genuine about wanting a halt to fighting. Aid agencies say they are being blocked from swathes of the country.

Claire Nicolet, deputy head of the emergency cell at the medical aid agency Doctors Without Borders, said: “For sure there should be much more attention regarding the level of the crisis in Sudan.

“The needs are huge and very, very little is covered at the moment. It is a bit of a silent crisis at the moment

muslim on muslim warfare. now theres a surprise!

where is the outcry from the islamic world, where is the outrage from the western socialists, where are the marches on the streets on london and new york.

oh i see. no israelis involved thats why. you fucking hypocritical racists.

^Start a thread on it then, tax. This thread is about Israel, Hamas, Gaza, Palestinians.

Start a thread on it then

dont be a dolt.

i think misskit mentioned it last year and it probably got zero replies. because who here gives a fuck about the terrorists and the rebels that have caused the deaths of 400,000 non combatants in darfur. yes, 400,000. and muslim on muslim ! what do you think of that??? and not one fucking jew to be seen!!

the point of mentioning it was to highlight the hypocrisy here, not to start a discussion on it. but mention israel and the terrorists hamas in the same breath and that sure gets the ignorant moronic racist jew-haters in a froth.

honestly neverna, you are out of your depth here. so be a good lad and and stick to telling stumpy how nice his flowerpots look or go to the poofs foodie thread and tell him the anantra alle amarene that he posted 20 photos of makes your mouth water.

because thats about your level. you pathetic fool.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Start a thread on it then, tax.

So he should

He could also go in Landeath mode and start one for each confict around the world

Originally Posted by Neverna

This thread is about Israel, Hamas, Gaza, Palestinians.

And Tax

Originally Posted by taxexile

dont be a dolt.

i think misskit mentioned it last year and it probably got zero replies. because who here gives a fuck about the terrorists and the rebels that have caused the deaths of 400,000 non combatants in darfur. yes, 400,000. and muslim on muslim ! what do you think of that??? and not one fucking jew to be seen!!

the point of mentioning it was to highlight the hypocrisy here, not to start a discussion on it. but mention israel and the terrorists hamas in the same breath and that sure gets the ignorant moronic racist jew-haters in a froth.

honestly neverna, you are out of your depth here. so be a good lad and and stick to telling stumpy how nice his flowerpots look or go to the poofs foodie thread and tell him the anantra alle amarene that he posted 20 photos of makes your mouth water.

because thats about your level. you pathetic fool.

I'm sure I know more about the Middle East than you do, you old duffer. But do carry on with trying to claim Israel has the moral high ground in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. And it's funny how you are trying to silence posters who don't share your views about it. Rant as much as you like from your high-rise in Leeds (Jewish quarter?). It will make no difference to the conflict or how others view the conflict.

Also, thanks for pointing out your own hypocrisy regarding deaths. Sudanese. Palestinian or Muslim and you are not interested, Israeli or Jewish and you froth at the mouth.