Ukraine war mega thread

[helge]

Still the West got a good look at Russian capabilities, so not too bad a result.

It's going to plan

"Weakening Russia"

All scripted and can be looked up.

Ukrainians are collateral damage.

[pickel]

It's going to plan

"Weakening Russia"

All scripted and can be looked up.

Ukrainians are collateral damage.

As I've said before, Russia could have foiled their plans by not invading Ukraine.

[helge]

As I've said before, Russia could have foiled their plans by not invading Ukraine.

Yes

But seems that Russia cares more about cultural genocide on russians in Ukraine, than you do.

Guess we have that established already

[bsnub]

The war is almost over with the result being all but inevitable.

You have been claiming this since the war started, you utter imbecile. Some of the shit you posted a couple months into the war you fucking bozo...

Says the man who claims Ukraine is winning

Yep I am on the side of reality, and unfortunately Ukraine are losing.

Now when are you going to accept the reality that Ukraine are not winning.

the Ukraine has virtually no chance against a superior force in numbers and equipment.

Who’s winning now on planet Bsnub?

here on earth Ukraine are losing for sure.

I will repeat to try to get it to sink in “Russia is winning”

Three years later and here we are. Stick to wordle you stupid geriatric fuckwit.

The West have fought to almost the last Ukrainian.

Oh ya? Fucking hell so you just made that up because I am sure as fuck certain you have no source.

Still the West got a good look at Russian capabilities, so not too bad a result.

You really have no fucking idea what you are talking about. No wonder you and Helga are butt buddies.

[bsnub]

Along comes another idiot spewing long destroyed ruzzian propaganda talking points...

But seems that Russia cares more about cultural genocide on russians in Ukraine, than you do.

Utter bullshit. What ruzzians in Ukraine? The Ukrainians who speak ruzzian? They are the one who are fighting this invasion the hardest.

Guess we have that established already

What we have established is you and your boyfriend icebitch are a couple of complete vatnik morons.

[helge]

What ruzzians in Ukraine?

Oh dear

[bsnub]

Go away Helga, you have no intelligent point to make in this thread.

[helge]

Ouch !

[pickel]

But seems that Russia cares more about cultural genocide on russians in Ukraine, than you do.

But, but, but.....I thought it was the Nazis, or NATO. Pick your bullshit reason at will Helga.

[helge]

But, but, but.....I thought it was the Nazis, or NATO. Pick your bullshit reason at will Helga.

A cocktail, Pickel

Donbas couldn't be ignored any longer.

Nice trap set up for Russia.

All according to plan

[bsnub]

Donbas couldn't be ignored any longer.

You fucking liar. You are just spouting ruzzian talking points again.

Nice trap set up for Russia.

Bullshit.

All according to plan

More bullshit.

This is what I am talking about when I call you an egrigious liar and hypocrite. You know this horseshit is utter nonsense yet you do not care. You continue to push the ruzzian lie narrative over and over again like the good little vatnik scumbag you are.

[pickel]

A cocktail, Pickel

Donbas couldn't be ignored any longer.

Nice trap set up for Russia.

All according to plan

Any of Russias bullshit genocide claims in Donbas, came after their "little green men" invaded it in 2014 dumbass. A sovereign country chose the West over Russia, and little baby Putin couldn't handle that. You are blinded by your hatred of America, and judging by your recent posts in other threads, your hatred of Zelensky is based on something similar to that of the Nazis. You don't like him because he's a Jew.

[helge]

A sovereign country chose the West over Russia,

Other way around and then a US sponsored (5 billion dollars invested )coup/uprising where the elected president had to flee.

your hatred of Zelensky is based on something similar to that of the Nazis. You don't like him because he's a Jew.

And I think you are mad

[pickel]

Other way around and then a US sponsored (5 billion dollars invested )coup/uprising where the elected president had to flee.

No doubt you'll have a Russian source for those figures and claims. Doesn't matter though, because they had another free and fair election after that. And still chose the West.

[helge]

No doubt you'll have a Russian source for those figures and claims.

Nah

Victoria Nuland herself bragged about it ...on video

[pickel]

Go on then, post the video. The one that specifically says:

US sponsored (5 billion dollars invested )coup/uprising where the elected president had to flee.

Don't leave out the bits that say:

the U.S. had invested over $5 billion on democratic skills and institutions, civic participation, and good governance in Ukraine since 1991.

Makes your claim, a bit disingenuous.

She also said this, which I'm sure you could agree with.

"It's time to start locking up people who have ripped off the Ukrainian population for too long and it is time to eradicate the cancer of corruption"

[bsnub]

Keep shoveling the horseshit, you egregious fucking liar. There was no coup, and it had nothing to do with the US. You are just parroting ruzzian lies as usual. Yanukovych was voted out of office by the Rada the vote was legitimate and not a coup. The Revolution of Dignity.

Over and over again, you push the same debunked lies. You are nothing more than a fool.

[helge]

Yanukovych was voted out of office by the Rada the vote was legitimate and not a coup.

Ofcourse it was a coup

The Agreement on the Settlement of the Political Crisis in Ukraine (Ukrainian: Угода про врегулювання політичної кризи в Україні, Russian: Соглашение об урегулировании политического кризиса на Украине) was an agreement signed on on 21 February 2014 by then-President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, and the leaders of Ukraine's parliamentary opposition, with mediation from the European Union and Russia. The agreement aimed to reduce bloodshed at the Euromaidan demonstrations in Kyiv, which had become significantly more violent during the Revolution of Dignity and resulted in the deaths of over 100 people. It also sought to end the political crisis caused by Euromaidan, which had began in November 2013 in response to Ukrainian authorities' decision to suspend the signing of the European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement.
The opposition was represented by Vitali Klitschko (of the Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform), Arseniy Yatsenyuk (of the All-Ukrainian Union "Fatherland") and Oleh Tyahnybok (of Svoboda). The signing was formally witnessed by the Foreign Ministers of Germany and Poland, Frank-Walter Steinmeier and Radosław Sikorski, as well as the head of the Department for Continental Europe of the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Eric Fournier. Vladimir Lukin, the Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation, participated in the discussions but declined to sign the agreement.^[1]
The agreement called for a return to the 2004 Constitution, establishing a parliamentary-presidential system of government, early presidential elections by the end of 2014, and the formation of a "government of national trust". It also called for the removal of security troops from downtown Kyiv, a cessation of violence, and the disarmament of the opposition.^[2]
Although nearly all sides, except Russia, signed the agreement, it was not implemented. Protests continued after its signing, and Yanukovych eventually fled to Russia. With the Euromaidan protesters emerging victorious, an arrest warrant was issued for Yanukovych, who effectively became a fugitive.^[3]
Challenges[edit]

President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych signing the Agreement, 21 February 2014.Vladimir Lukin explained his refusal to sign the Agreement, stating, "Moscow decided not to sign these agreements for a very valid reason. In fact, it is not very clear who the subject of this agreement is, [...as] the forces and people who should implement it aren't seen" in the agreement.^[1]
On 21 February, Volodymyr Parasyuk stated that he and other "Maidan self-Defense" activists were not satisfied with the gradual political reforms specified in the agreement. He demanded instead the immediate resignation of President Yanukovych and otherwise threatened to storm the presidential administration and the Verkhovna Rada. His statement was met with applause.^{[citation needed]}
The leader of the Right Sector, Dmytro Yarosh, refused to comply with the agreement and stated that it did not provide a clear commitment to the President's resignation, the dissolution of the Verkhovna Rada, and the punishment of heads of law enforcement agencies and those who issued "criminal orders, which had killed about a hundred Ukrainian citizens".^[4]
On the evening of 21 February, Yanukovych traveled to Kharkiv, where he was expecting to participate in a "Congress of South-Eastern Regions and Crimea". Many pro-Russian politicians and Russian diplomats were present, and the Crimean delegation openly proposed seceding of the regions from Ukraine. The sentiment on the council, however, was against secession, so Yanukovych ended up not participating.^[5][6]
The next night, on 22 February, Euromaidan activists occupied the government quarter as law enforcement abandoned it. They put forward several new demands, including the immediate resignation of President Yanukovych.^[7]
Russian President Vladimir Putin later described the Agreement as a practical surrender of power because Yanukovych agreed to all demands of the opposition.^[8]

[helge]

Don't leave out the bits that say:

the U.S. had invested over $5 billion on democratic skills and institutions, civic participation, and good governance in Ukraine since 1991.

Makes your claim, a bit disingenuous.

Eh ?

Did you expect her to say that it was used on "preparing activists to overturn the presidency of Ukraine" ?

"Democratic skills and civic participation " ?

5 billion is an enourmous sum of money, I'm sure 1 billion could have kept the neo-nazis happy and ready

[Iceman123]

Snubby, you can jump up and down, stamp your feet and slap your boyfriend all around the basement, but FFS see sense.

Crimea, Donbas etc shall be ceded to Russia, the war shall be over and no one will give a damn.

I know this is not the result you want but adjust your beer goggles and face reality.

[Troy]

What's the news on the Rostov nuclear power plant? Have the rumours of a serious leak been confirmed?

[OhOh]

What's the news on the Rostov nuclear power plant

See:

Microsoft's global outage has no effect on Russia's NPPs — Rosatom - Military & Defense - TASS

[Troy]

^ Well, the Russian Authorities have denied it, but I'm not sure why anyone would conflate it with the IT outage on Friday morning.

It appears that one of the reactors was shut down on Tuesday and there have been power outages in Southern Russia, but the authorities are also denying this.

If, as is suggested, any nuclear leak is being driven further into Russia on the prevailing Westerlies, it is unlikely to be picked up by Western monitors. I don't think it will be that long, though, before any leak is confirmed or shown to be fake.

[Neverna]

What's the news on the Rostov nuclear power plant? Have the rumours of a serious leak been confirmed?

The Telegraph is reporting that it was hit by Ukrainian drones.




Ukrainian drone strikes hit Russian power plant in Rostov

[pickel]

^
That's not a nuclear power plant.