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    Russian State TV Show Goes Off Message, Criticizes War on Ukraine

    A Russian state TV channel went off message Monday night as participants denounced the war in Ukraine.


    A popular talk show broadcasted on the Russia-1 channel, “Evenings with Vladimir Solovyov,” hosted by Solovyov, one of the Kremlin’s most loyal propagandists, strayed from the Kremlin line when guests of the prime-time show began criticizing Russia’s war in Ukraine.

    "Do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse?” asked academic Semyon Bagdasarov.


    Filmmaker Karen Shakhnazarov, also questioned the Kremlin’s decision to wage war on neighboring Ukraine, stating it risked isolating Russia and spooking its closest allies.


    “I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can’t imagine how that would look,” Shakhnazarov said.

    Solovyov was forced to interrupt the guests, curbing the criticism aimed at the Kremlin.


    Russian State TV is the only source of information for most Russian citizens on the war in Ukraine. After launching its offensive, the Kremlin also moved quickly to freeze out social media platforms and block several independent media outlets.


    State TV seldom strays from the Kremlin’s official messaging, with Solovyev a prominent voice backing Russia’s campaign to “denazify” and “demilitarize” Ukraine.


    Ukraine has been widely regarded as winning the “information war” since Russia invaded last month, including through regular updates about Russian losses, and videos of captured Russian soldiers stating they were lied to about their mission in Ukraine.


    In response, the Kremlin introduced strict new laws against journalists and media platforms, attempting to suppress information about the conflict and threatening any outlets that refer to the “special military operation” as a “war” with jail time.


    Western governments slapped Solovyov with sanctions following the invasion, freezing his European assets and banning him from traveling to the EU.

    Russian State TV Show Goes Off Message, Criticizes War on Ukraine - The Moscow Times

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    ^^
    From your link...

    A total of 48 schools have been destroyed in Kharkiv, its mayor has said, as the city comes under relentless bombardment. “As of today, 48 (of the city’s) schools have been destroyed,” said mayor Ihor Terekhov in a televised address.
    The regional governor of Kharkiv has condemned today’s attack on a psychiatric hospital, saying it was “a war crime against civilians”. Ukraine has accused Russian forces of hitting a psychiatric hospital near the eastern Ukrainian town of Izyum.
    Russian forces shelled residential areas of Kharkiv 89 times in one day, the local governor has said. Reuters reports that Oleh Synegubov also said there is no danger to civilians after an institute with a nuclear laboratory was hit.
    Russian forces have killed more Ukrainian civilians than soldiers, Ukraine’s defence minister said today. “I want this to be heard not only in Kyiv but all over the world,” Oleksii Reznikov said.
    Yet Sabang claims to be a "humanist" but thinks this war is marginal.

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    I hope anyone who supports Putin in this or makes excuses or tries to justify it dies a long slow painful death.

    ukraine children - Google Search


    https://api.time.com/wp-content/uplo...t_fortress.jpg
    Last edited by Cujo; 11-03-2022 at 08:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I hope anyone who supports Putin in this or makes excuses or tries to justify it dies a long slow painful death.
    Sabang seems to think he and the Three Stooges should be able to post their propaganda without seeing the results of it. Maybe it is time for the three clowns to finally be doghoused?

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    ^^

    Are you desperate? You appear triggered?

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    You appear remarkably triggered snubs. That is a genuine News article about a Republican Congressmans comments, that were filmed on video. I'm not sure of your point- would you prefer things that your domestic political opponents say that you take issue with, be censored? In which case, I don't see how your 'team' could ever win an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Sadly, the Russians are massive cowards and have a history of sitting outside cities and shelling them without concern for civilians.
    Its a nasty business but that is not cowardice, its using your advantage with minimal risk to your troops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    Its a nasty business but that is not cowardice
    Are you out of your mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    The Strategic Culture Foundation is a Russian think tank
    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    The Global Times (simplified Chinese: 环球时报; traditional Chinese: 環球時報; pinyin: Huánqiú Shíbào) is a daily tabloid newspaper under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party's flagship People's Daily newspaper,
    I gave up reading OhOh's mouthpiece rubbish years ago.

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    ^ No, i am merely pointing out that it has nothing to do with cowardice. They are not there to fight hand to hand under Queensbury rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    You appear remarkably triggered snubs. That is a genuine News article about a Republican Congressmans comments, that were filmed on video. I'm not sure of your point- would you prefer things that your domestic political opponents say that you take issue with, be censored? In which case, I don't see how your 'team' could ever win an election.
    What's your point? We all know the Republicans worked with Russia to win the 2016 election. Of course they're fucking pals.

    Why is it in the least surprising that one of the more rabid of them started the Ukraine bullshit again?

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    Sabang, Madison Cawthorn is right up there with Marjorie Taylor Green and that Bobert woman for being nuts. Your post probably needs to go on the Republican lunacy thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    It wasn't Turkish drones moron. It was Israeli suicide drones.

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    That is thanks to Nato's stupid talk of providing Mig 29's to Ukraine through Poland. So these airfields that these jets would have went to had to be destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I hope anyone who supports Putin in this or makes excuses or tries to justify it dies a long slow painful death.

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    https://api.time.com/wp-content/uplo...t_fortress.jpg
    These stories about hospital bombings are injected into the western media just to get the reaction you are having.

    The hospital was cleared out and made into a military outpost in Febuary. Just so that propaganda like this can be made. The exact same thing happened in Syria

    MoA - Disarming Ukraine Day 15: A Curious Hospital Bombing And 'No-Fly Zone' Pressure

    in the last days of February, people in uniform came to the maternity hospital where his mother works. He does not know whether they were fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the nationalist battalion "Azov" (banned in the Russian Federation). The military knocked down all the locks, dispersed the staff of the maternity hospital, and set up firing points in the building in order, as they explained to the doctors, to prepare the “fortress of Mariupol” for defense.



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    Another Russia support rally in Serbia

    https://youtube.com/shorts/tBhN5pJ1wbo?feature=share

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    I gave up reading OhOh's mouthpiece rubbish years ago.
    Indeed.

    It's brainwashed nonsense and I just want to throttle the twat when I read his stuff and relate it to the suffering I'm seeing and reading each day.

    The utter twat.

    Backspit is just an idiot craving attention.

    Sabang does at least, at times, offer some sort of criticism. Some sort anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Sabang seems to think he and the Three Stooges should be able to post their propaganda without seeing the results of it. Maybe it is time for the three clowns to finally be doghoused?
    They've got as much right as we have to post their opinions though. As much as the civilised world disagrees with it and as egregious as it may be, this is a forum for people's views.
    Last edited by hallelujah; 12-03-2022 at 12:38 AM.

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    Video debunking Mariupol maturnity hospital incident from Russian MFA official acct Telegram: Contact @MFARussia

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    ^ Oh dear, the debunking video has been deleted from Twitter as disinformation from the RFO.

    Not even the Russians believe this stuff, which makes our skiddy very 'special'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I hope anyone who supports Putin in this or makes excuses or tries to justify it dies a long slow painful death.
    A noble wish

    Now, Cujo

    Will you wish the same on anyone, who stays silent on the Saudi, UAE slaughter of kids in Yemen ?

    Will you call for sanctions ?


    Will you call for an embargo on Israel for their terror bombardments of civilians in Gaza ?

    Will you ?


    Or is my questions merely "whataboutisme" ?

    If you say "a" the "b" follows.


    Have you got the guts ?


    Most western governments haven't got it.


    I don't like Putin either, Cujo



    PS

    All TD posters are ofcourse welcome to join Cujo in stating their disgust for attrocities done to civilians in all colours.


    Yeah; that won't happen
    Last edited by helge; 12-03-2022 at 01:59 AM.

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    Just a simple question about that though Troy. A busy maternity hospital has the whole facade blown away, and.... only 17 injured, and 3 dead it is reported. It clearly was not primarily being used as a hospital at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Are you out of your mind?
    Standard tactic used by the Romans and everyone since. It is outlawed as part of Article 23 of the 1949 Geneva Convention but you lose a lot less troops than fighting in urban warfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    fighting in urban warfare.
    And you'll need an 9:1 advantage(troops-material) to succeed in taking a city, as far as I remember

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Maybe it is time for the three clowns to finally be doghoused?
    Once again you want posters with other views than your own censored.

    Weak


    BTW: You might be able to predict the BelaRus invasion...if you hurry

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Once again you want posters with other views than your own censored.
    I agree with helge here.

    It was the same with my views on Covid and lockdowns with snubs, misskit and others (despite the evidence that I posted in support of my views).

    The left are great with freedom of speech until it doesn't agree with their notion of what is right. After that, lock them up! Put them in the doghouse!

    They're anything but free.

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