Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by can123

Don't care about that. I can't live for ever and need to take my wife back to her family.

Take her back anyway if you have the money for a Marriage visa. What the hell, you'll live happily and no need to worry about making ends meet...It's the Brexit way!

Originally Posted by Switch

You really are fucked up beyond all recognition. This is the second time you have posted the same crap and it is still wrong.
The Brexit vote was quite simple, just like you. Stay, or go. The vote was to go. Mays current plan keeps the uk in the eu, with no say. Therefore it is not what the electorate voted for.
Quite apart from the fact that you cannot declare a second referendum, you are a sad person with no real reason for being here. Please withdraw from the debate about Brexit, because you are confused about what Brexit means.

Whoa! Slow down there!

The vote was to go. Mays current plan keeps the uk in the eu

The Maybot plan goes some way towards the idea of Brexit without destroying the UK economy. She has managed to get a stop on EU migrants (migrants which the UK actually need) and she has managed to keep the UK in the Customs union (which the UK definitely needs). There is a little problem about moving further towards a full Brexit due to the Ireland border but it's not a bad compromise. The only problem is that the UK will be paying to get a worse deal than it has now! It is out of the EU decision making and the UK will have less control than it has now but it is out of the EU in that Farage can stop making a complete dick of himself.

Quite apart from the fact that you cannot declare a second referendum,

It'll require an extension to Article 50 and not be particularly palatable but you can have a second referendum if the government puts the motion forward in Parliament.

I think you are the one that is confused...

Let's see what Tuesday brings and take it from there. A vote of no confidence is not the answer, nor is a GE. The best way forward is to swallow one's pride but that isn't going to happen. Pride comes before a fall, as they say...

Troy, do yourself a favour and leave him alone. You are trying to argue with a bloke who cannot control a pound of sausages in Gulliver's.

Originally Posted by Switch

You really are fucked up beyond all recognition. This is the second time you have posted the same crap and it is still wrong.
The Brexit vote was quite simple, just like you. Stay, or go. The vote was to go. Mays current plan keeps the uk in the eu, with no say. Therefore it is not what the electorate voted for.

Can you quote me saying otherwise?

Originally Posted by Troy

Let's see what Tuesday brings and take it from there. A vote of no confidence is not the answer, nor is a GE. The best way forward is to swallow one's pride but that isn't going to happen. Pride comes before a fall, as they say...

It is utterly shameful that the Tories are using Brexit and the futures of 70 million people as pawns in an internal party power struggle to try and grab the top job. But, hey that internal party power struggle was the only reason they called the referendum in the first place.

The biggest joke is the Tories are seen by many as the party of business and they swept to power on a promise to fix 'Broken Britain', boost the economy, reduce immigration, reduce borrowing, but they've achieved exactly none of those things.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Labour have used the entire Brexit process to undermine and try to bring the government down - effectively, they've worked as an EU agent within the British parliament.

It's the oppositions job to oppose.

To say this makes Labour effectively an EU agent is the sort of rank twaddle one would expect from The Daily Mail. After all this time Labour is still in a hole because so much of its heartland said yes to BREXIT.

Some posts I read and wonder what on earth its author can think he's been watching. You present no back up for your assertion whatsoever and appear to think that's fine. Labour has basically been stymied by BREXIT, with its biggest hope being that the tories make enough of a mess of it for the country to turn to them.

Originally Posted by foobar

It is utterly shameful that the Tories are using Brexit and the futures of 70 million people as pawns in an internal party power struggle to try and grab the top job

Their future EU position and perks depend on them delivering the EU preferred solution. I await their move from UK political positions to EU appointed positions subsequent to the political parties choice being adopted.

Originally Posted by Switch

You really are fucked up beyond all recognition. This is the second time you have posted the same crap and it is still wrong.
The Brexit vote was quite simple, just like you. Stay, or go. The vote was to go. Mays current plan keeps the uk in the eu, with no say. Therefore it is not what the electorate voted for.
Quite apart from the fact that you cannot declare a second referendum, you are a sad person with no real reason for being here. Please withdraw from the debate about Brexit, because you are confused about what Brexit means.

oh shut up you poorly educated fuckwit,

stop being another silly Cy and go back to your bed full of piss

this is an impasse, if the Torries fookers don't want to take a chance at Brexit and vote for May deal, then it's referendum

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

if the fookers don't want to take a chance at Brexit and vote for May deal, then it's referendum

It's almost impressive that despite holding a hand that can't lose you still manage to post such utter twaddle.

Originally Posted by cyrille

It's the oppositions job to oppose...

It's the opposition's duty to present a viable opposition to the gov. Corbyn is not viable opposition against probably the worst gov in my lifetime, and I say this despite that foobar idiot insisting I support and sing its praises, while accusing me of calling Corbyn a leftie. Compound the two and that's foobar, poor thing.

To say this makes Labour effectively an EU agent is the sort of rank twaddle one would expect from The Daily Mail.

What Corbyn IS doing right is to give him what he believes is his only chance as leader by resisting whatever May came up with, out of self interest rather than what's best for the country; in this respect sure he sides with the EU, without a revealed plan of his own, and whether or not May colluded to sabotage Brexit. A clusterfcuk!

After all this time Labour is still in a hole because so much of its heartland said yes to BREXIT.

What does their leader think, want, say? Might as well guess, because that's the best anyone can do.

Some posts I read and wonder what on earth its author can think he's been watching. You present no back up for your assertion whatsoever and appear to think that's fine. Labour has basically been stymied by BREXIT, with its biggest hope being that the tories make enough of a mess of it for the country to turn to them.

And that's what's happened, a glorious mess spreading division at the highest levels, and Corbyn remains unelectable. Don't you get it??

This takes us back to point 1, a viable opposition to keep the gov on its toes must result in a better overall performance under the threat of a lost election. He is not the one to present that threat.

You could be so far up your own ass in blind support of Labour, that you refuse to accept it's only chance at gaining power is to have a leader that the people might in desperation turn to. And if not now then how much more desperate must they be?

You're turning my comments into what you want to read.

It's called a strawman.

Look at your last quote of me and then your response.

You say 'that's what's happened' and then launch a pile of utter shit based on nothing I've posted.

Originally Posted by cyrille

It's almost impressive that despite holding a hand that can't lose you still manage to post such utter twaddle.

you are a ridiculous little idiot, move along precious twat

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

a ridiculous little idiot...precious twat

...wow.

Any further comment would be superfluous.

Originally Posted by cyrille

...wow.

Any further comment would be superfluous.

like Chass, your pensioner boyfriend, you really have not much to say, so just go die somewhere and be interesting for once

Originally Posted by cyrille

You're turning my comments into what you want to read.

It's called a strawman.

Look at your last quote of me and then your response.

You say 'that's what's happened' and then launch a pile of utter shit based on nothing I've posted.

I did, and your point is...?

Should I expect your sidekick foobaa to echo the whine?

Originally Posted by cyrille

It's the oppositions job to oppose.

During normal periods that is so. This is an extraordinary time. Actually labour has been shameful throughout the Brexit process going back to the last election when they gave a huge list of lies as their manifesto - they were simply unable to give (or pay for) everything to everybody as they promised; this was disgraceful politics where they simply had no intent to take government, so just split the nation with inane and endless promises instead. The Conservatives should have invited MPs from other parties to work through the process with them, they should have taken the lead in getting the whole of the UK political space involved and included with Brexit - it has been managed terribly by the Tories. But Corbyn, who I like as somebody who broadens the range of political discussion, has been a terrible leader who is simply unelectable.

This process has shown what a terrible mess out political system is in.

^^Well if you can't see how completely unrelated your 'response' is to my comments then, to be honest, I can't really be arsed.

Your bizarre outburst and buttplug's comical projection pretty much sum this place up.

Originally Posted by cyrille

^^Well if you can't see how completely unrelated your 'response' is to my comments then, to be honest, I can't really be arsed.

Your bizarre outburst and buttplug's comical projection pretty much sum this place up.

I didn't go to school, as buttplug constantly reminds us, so go on, be the good guy and arsed to clarify what in my post doesn't relate to yours.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

this is an impasse, if the Torries fookers don't want to take a chance at Brexit and vote for May deal, then it's referendum

They have already had a referendum. The people voted ... to leave the EU.

Originally Posted by jabir

I did, and your point is...?

Should I expect your sidekick foobaa to echo the whine?

he doesn't have any point, he just comes here to throw his pointless shit

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

During normal periods that is so. This is an extraordinary time. Actually labour has been shameful throughout the Brexit process going back to the last election when they gave a huge list of lies as their manifesto - they were simply unable to give (or pay for) everything to everybody as they promised; this was disgraceful politics where they simply had no intent to take government, so just split the nation with inane and endless promises instead. The Conservatives should have invited MPs from other parties to work through the process with them, they should have taken the lead in getting the whole of the UK political space involved and included with Brexit - it has been managed terribly by the Tories. But Corbyn, who I like as somebody who broadens the range of political discussion, has been a terrible leader who is simply unelectable.

This process has shown what a terrible mess out political system is in.

I agree completely, this should have been a bi-partisan project

and Labour has been playing stupid games, that's how desperate they have become

Originally Posted by Neverna

They have already had a referendum. The people voted ... to leave the EU.

The UK Telegraph started a rumor tha Mays plan b might include a second referendum,

but with no remain option on the ballot.

it was a narrow margin and things have changed,

what are you afraid of ?