Thread: Time to move on?

Originally Posted by Slick

I bet for a bunch of these people, healthcare costs more than their mortgage.

For many people, healthcare costs have made them lose their homes. All it takes is inadequate coverage and some bad luck to bankrupt them.

Your experience is seemingly typical of outposts of the immigration police which conduct business independently of the law and practice as detailed by their HQ office in Bangkok.
Touch wood, I have never been extorted in Bangkok or Pattaya, and nor have I been asked for evidence supernumerary to the published guidelines on any policy relating to the law in support of any application.

If your main gripe is negotiating gratuitous immigration hoops, then perhaps you should re-consider your location and move to a part of Thailand which upholds published law and practice.

Migrating elsewhere seems a tad drastic or is it simply the case you are using local practices as an excuse for leaving?

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by RPETER65

What hoops do you have to jump through?

Mostly immigration hassles. The local office insists on an illegal donation of Bt500 for a proof of address document in order for me to replace my Thai drivers licence.
After 8 annual renewals of permission to stay for retirement, I can categorically state that, every renewal has been met with requests for additional documents which are only required by the local office.
Not only are they spiteful xenophobic, cunters, they are all stupid just like you.

That's a bollox excuse for moving on.
I've been using the same immigration office as you and they nowadays, after moving, run a very smooth service. Their latest change of required documents was some 2-3 years ago when they started to require you to prove your place of stay with a google map + hand drawn map + copy of landlords house book.

Originally Posted by lom

prove your place of stay with a google map + hand drawn map + copy of landlords house book.

Hand drawn map? LMAO. What in the world....

And that's presumably meant to undermine the claim that they're coming up with their own requirements.

Its a big wide world out there, just wander around till you like some where and intergrate into the country...
Its all good fun..and we are only here for such a short time..
Then we drop of the perch...
" begin each day with a greatfull heart"

Originally Posted by redhaze

Originally Posted by lom

prove your place of stay with a google map + hand drawn map + copy of landlords house book.

Hand drawn map? LMAO. What in the world....

Originally Posted by cyrille

And that's presumably meant to undermine the claim that they're coming up with their own requirements.

Ouch, I see it now.
Makes sense to relocate if you have to spend a minute drawing up a road or two, a junction or three and put names onto them. Eh?

I did my first retirement extension 2001 and it is much simpler today when compared to then.
I did a 90 day report last week, in and out in 10 minutes. Those hoops get me on the nerves..

I reckon it's just that no lasses have caught chassamui's eye lately...or they're setting their sights higher.

Originally Posted by lom

That's a bollox excuse for moving on.
I've been using the same immigration office as you and they nowadays, after moving, run a very smooth service. Their latest change of required documents was some 2-3 years ago when they started to require you to prove your place of stay with a google map + hand drawn map + copy of landlords house book.

It is but one reason among many. I have used both old and new offices and had the same, usually awful experience. The google map of the residence was one recent example. I had hoped that the departure of Khun Nok would resolve the corruption issues, but quite the opposite seems to have happened since the move.
The arrival of the Army in Samui has also impacted residents, bot Thai and Faring. The decision to close al bars even ones that serve food this weekend is also more stringent tan previous regimes. The religious holiday has also been extended from one day to 48 hours. In theory, an establishment can open at midnight tonight, Sunday, but must then close at 0100 hours on Monday. How petty is that?
People with fully compliant businesses compete with work permits and all documentation, are being harassed on a daily basis by men in green baggy skin, determined to find imagined flaws in practices or paperwork.
It remains a fact that certain Thai and Farang operations are sufficiently powerful enough to avoid such game playing.
The junta has a lot to answer for and because its practices remain discriminatory, the playing field remains on a slope. Just like the police back home predate the motorist as the easy target, so the goons here go for the low hanging fruit, just to keep up the pretence of success.
That the military work on behalf of the elite to keep the peasantry in their place may not concern you, but it still sickens me.
I am happy that your immigration experience has improved. Mine has not, and I am apparently not alone in that..

Originally Posted by biff

Its a big wide world out there, just wander around till you like some where and intergrate into the country...
Its all good fun..and we are only here for such a short time..
Then we drop of the perch...
" begin each day with a greatfull heart"

This has been a public service announcement from his Holiness of Gratitude.

Look, it's all relative. If you are sorted and don't want to fuck around with Thai cvunts in shitkickersville where the local chickenhead is only two swings out of the jungle just fuck off to Bangers and rent yourself a nice little studio somewhere for 12,000 bt a month and do your immigration shit with the big boys up in Chaengwattana. That way you circumvent the cvunts in monkey land and have a nice pied a terre to enjoy when the Rock becomes tedious.

A Thai settling in the UK would spend nigh on £10,000 over 5 years on three fuck-off difficult applications which take weeks or months to be decided, and they have to do the fucking circus act of having to learn English to the satisfaction of some fucking shiny-arsed clerk just so that they can live with their British partner and their fucking children. And if they have the temerity to leave for more than two years they lose everything and have to start all over again.

1,900 baht and a few pieces of paper every fucking year is fucking small potatoes.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

you should re-consider your location and move to a part of Thailand which upholds published law and practice.

How silly. Each and every office interprets the immigration laws differently. You'd be hard pushed to find one that works to 'published law'. He may as well stay where he is. Things aren't any better up here.

Chaengwattana and Jomtien play a straight bat with genuine applicants and have done so pretty much over the past 10-15 years. Your place and the islands are ground zero for fuckwittery.

The chimps are simply puzzled as why the visitors would like to move into their dirty cages after a first visit to the zoo,

that's why they are making it all difficult, because for them it's not normal

they simply want to keep their dirty cage to themselves, and frankly, who could blame them

You'd be hard pushed to find one that works to 'published law'.

In all the years I've been going there, I've never had any problems (other than a long wait) at the Chiang Mai office.

Originally Posted by misskit

Originally Posted by Slick

I bet for a bunch of these people, healthcare costs more than their mortgage.

For many people, healthcare costs have made them lose their homes. All it takes is inadequate coverage and some bad luck to bankrupt them.

A despairing and darkened situation.

Originally Posted by Passing Through

In all the years I've been going there, I've never had any problems (other than a long wait) at the Chiang Mai office.

May be it's the officers way to let off steam for having been posted to a shit-hole, out of the way, location? Obviously they must be envious of the lucrative posting others may have?

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by buriramboy

^Yeah but full of Americans.

You wouldn't be complaining when you see the Puerto Rican chickas

I hear Puerto Rico's got some nice beeyoches...

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attrac...erto_Rico.html

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Does no one who is thinking about leaving Thailand ever consider Southern Europe as opposed to another SE Asian country? Still great bargains to be had in terms of property both coastal and inland in Spain, Portugal and Greece.

Portugal's nice, definitely. I like the rustic feel and cobbled streets of Lisbon. I'm worked with many friendly Greeks.

Originally Posted by redhaze

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Thus?

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Originally Posted by Passing Through

^^ One reason is that

it's a lot easier to deal with other people's shit than with your own

Interacting with, for example, Brexit supporters drives me round the fucking bend and more generally, the tabloid-reading British drive me insane with anger, repression and fuckwittery

Just imagine what interacting with the average violent abusive remainiac fuckwit is like - imagine 40% of the country turning into that kid in Tescos - screaming and spinning round the floor because he's just been told he can't have his own way!



That's what it's like every focking day in the left-wing press and on the BBC... they just never focking shut up!

Are you retarded or what?

Sorry guys, This is not about leaving UK, I've already done that. It's about leaving Thailand. I have considered Southern Europe, but most of the livable places are saddled with the Euro and the wasteful bureaucratic monolith that is the EU.
That, and my penchant for warmer climes, leaves me with a range of tropical or sub tropical regions.
Any suggestions welcome.