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    For those of you hanging your hats and hopes on boy scout G-Man Mueller, here's yet another voice attesting to his true nature. Obviously I don't see 9/11 in the same light as Rowley(on who really done it). But here's her views:

    9/11 Whistleblower Rowley on Mueller's History of 'Cover-up' | Accuracy.Org

    COLEEN ROWLEY, rowleyclan [at] earthlink.net, @ColeenRowley, a former FBI special agent and division counsel whose May 2002 memo to then-FBI Director Robert Mueller exposed some of the FBI’s pre-9/11 failures, was named one of TIME magazine’s “Persons of the Year” in 2002. She just appeared on The Real News report “Special Counsel Investigating Trump Campaign Has Deep Ties to the Deep State,” about Mueller being appointed to investigate the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia. While Mueller has been widely described as being of impeccable character by much of official Washington, Rowley said today: “The truth is that Robert Mueller (and James Comey as deputy attorney general — see my New York Times op-ed on day of Comey’s confirmation hearing) presided over a cover-up …”

    In her interview, Rowley noted: “The FBI and all the other officials claimed that there were no clues, that they had no warning [about 9/11] etc., and that was not the case. There had been all kinds of memos and intelligence coming in. I actually had a chance to meet Director Mueller personally the night before I testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee … [he was] trying to get us on his side, on the FBI side, so that we wouldn’t say anything terribly embarrassing. …

    “When you had the lead-up to the Iraq War … Mueller and, of course, the CIA and all the other directors, saluted smartly and went along with what Bush wanted, which was to gin up the intelligence to make a pretext for the Iraq War. For instance, in the case of the FBI, they actually had a receipt, and other documentary proof, that one of the hijackers, Mohamed Atta, had not been in Prague, as Dick Cheney was alleging. And yet those directors more or less kept quiet. That included … CIA, FBI, Mueller, and it included also the deputy attorney general at the time, James Comey.”

    Rowley also noted that Mueller presided over “the ‘post 9-11 round-up’ of innocent immigrants, the anthrax investigation fiasco, as well as going along with a form of martial law (made possible via secret OLC [Office of Legal Counsel] memos written by John Yoo etc. predicated upon Yoo’s theories of absolute ‘imperial presidency’ or ‘war presidency’ powers that the Bush administration was making [Attorney General John] Ashcroft sign off on).”

    “While not the worst of the bunch, neither Comey nor Mueller deserve their Jimmy Stewart ‘G-man’ reputations for absolute integrity but have merely been, along the lines of George ‘Slam Dunk’ Tenet, capable and flexible politicized sycophants to power, that enmeshed them in numerous wrongful abuses of power along with presiding over plain official incompetence. It’s sad that political partisanship is so blinding and that so few people remember the actual sordid history.”
    Also see:

    The NYT Op-Ed mentioned above:

    Questions for the F.B.I. Nominee - The New York Times

    and The Real News Network story and video:

    Special Counsel Investigating Trump Campaign Has Deep Ties to the Deep State


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Have to agree that's well worth viewing.. whichever side of the fence you're on.

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    'deep state ' FFS. It used to be called the opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
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    Hey, Storekeeper, you really think this is an "Act of War!!"?
    What I think is Russia has attempted to undermine our democracy. What surprises me is how quickly "patriotic" right wingers are to dismiss it.
    Where do you see anyone trying to dismiss the fact that Russia tried meddling in U.S. Politics.
    Huh? Come again? Trump himself has yet to admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche
    Huh? Come again? Trump himself has yet to admit it.
    Wouldn't it be Obama who was in the know, after all he was the president at the time.
    CIA, NSA. FBI reported to him, not Trump, maybe ask Obama what he knew about the Russians, at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    CIA, NSA. FBI reported to him, not Trump, maybe ask Obama what he knew about the Russians, at the time.
    Why? Any discussions would have been done under the radar. Why would trump's team or the russians involve the US intelligence agencies. Trump's an idiot but you got to give him more credit than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred flintstone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    CIA, NSA. FBI reported to him, not Trump, maybe ask Obama what he knew about the Russians, at the time.
    Why? Any discussions would have been done under the radar. Why would trump's team or the russians involve the US intelligence agencies. Trump's an idiot but you got to give him more credit than that.
    Yep Trump and his people were able to outsmart the biggest inteligence service in the world, while being watched.

    May as well disband the NSA, CIA, etc after all if they counldn't get a presidential candident how could they catch a small terror group.

    Under the radar, meaning no phones, computers or personal meeting, ESP only, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    Yep Trump and his people were able to outsmart the biggest inteligence service in the world, while being watched.
    John Brennan testified a few months ago that he was aware of meetings between trump's team and the russians during the campaign and had informed the FBI them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred flintstone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    CIA, NSA. FBI reported to him, not Trump, maybe ask Obama what he knew about the Russians, at the time.
    Why? Any discussions would have been done under the radar. Why would trump's team or the russians involve the US intelligence agencies. Trump's an idiot but you got to give him more credit than that.
    Whoosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    These people either forgot or are to young to remember the cold war
    you were obviously too young to remember because the cold war was all about the US throwing tantrum when some third world country would disagree with their propaganda

    a bit like now, actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred flintstone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    Yep Trump and his people were able to outsmart the biggest inteligence service in the world, while being watched.
    John Brennan testified a few months ago that he was aware of meetings between trump's team and the russians during the campaign and had informed the FBI them.
    Yes you are right, trump is putin's puppet and 'teh russians' have taken over the usa.

    If only there was a single shred of proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fred flintstone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    Yep Trump and his people were able to outsmart the biggest inteligence service in the world, while being watched.
    John Brennan testified a few months ago that he was aware of meetings between trump's team and the russians during the campaign and had informed the FBI them.
    Yes you are right, trump is putin's puppet and 'teh russians' have taken over the usa.

    If only there was a single shred of proof.
    There is loads of proof the russians interfered in the election process. It's not in doubt. You and Alex Jones seem to be the only ones who don't know it. Oh and lizard people and Sandy Hook never happened.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    ^ No you muppet, is there a single shred of proof that trump is in collusion with 'teh russians'? you guys are so delusional you believe that 'teh russians' have taken over the usa, yet no-one can find any proof. you lot belong in padded cells with straitjackets so you dont hurt yourselves.

    saying 'teh russians' interfered with the election process is a meaningless allegation. i can be accused of interfering with the us election process by your retarded standard. is there a single shred of proof that they changed any votes?
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    This "Russian-Trump" connection story is getting old.

    If evidence that is verified and true - I'll accept it.

    Until then....this is hot air.


    It's like the 'Obama-haters" who went berserk over all of those allegations, and many were untrue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred flintstone
    John Brennan testified a few months ago that he was aware of meetings between trump's team and the russians during the campaign and had informed the FBI them.
    Was he not under the Obama adminstration CIA, did he withhold that information from the Whitehouse.

    If Obama knew, call him to testify that he knew the Russia were taking over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fred flintstone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    Yep Trump and his people were able to outsmart the biggest inteligence service in the world, while being watched.
    John Brennan testified a few months ago that he was aware of meetings between trump's team and the russians during the campaign and had informed the FBI them.
    Yes you are right, trump is putin's puppet and 'teh russians' have taken over the usa.

    If only there was a single shred of proof.
    Trumptards, who are addicted to conspiracy theories and couldn't care less about proof unless it applies to others of course, asking for proof? I can't believe it! The nerve of you.

    For the sake of others, the Trump crime syndicate has shown itself to be in bed once again with the Kremlim as they renewed six Trump trademarks last year, despite the rogue, illegitimate president firing off another angry tweet this past week repeating his assertion that he has no business interests in Russia. Lock him up and then hang this compulsively lying and compulsively smearing sociopath by his tongue.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/18/u...arks.html?_r=0
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    Anybody watching the Oliver Stone Putin interviews? Putin makes trump look like the kind of faggot who hangs around toilets in the hope he can eat disinfectant blocks from the mens urinals.

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    ^Downloaded the series yesterday. No time to take a look. May not get to watch them until next week.

    Putin is an intelligent man so no surprise he makes Trump look like the buffoon he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    If Obama knew, call him to testify that he knew the Russia were taking over.
    Why would he testify to something that nobody has claimed. And why would he be required to testify at all.

    When Trump became President-elect he was privy to the same intelligence briefings that Obama was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    Was he not under the Obama adminstration CIA, did he withhold that information from the Whitehouse.

    If Obama knew, call him to testify that he knew the Russia were taking over.

    Jesus wept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    'deep state ' FFS. It used to be called the opposition.
    That term has been around for awhile...before Trump fer sure. Bill Moyers had an article on his website about it a few years ago:

    Essay: Anatomy of the Deep State | BillMoyers.com

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    ^Yes that's why Bill Moyers allowed that article on his website.

    Do you know who he is?

    Bill Moyers Journal . Home | PBS

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    Billy Don "Bill" Moyers is an American journalist and political commentator. He served as White House Press Secretary in the Johnson administration from 1965 to 1967. He also worked as a network TV news commentator for ten years. Moyers has been extensively involved with public broadcasting, producing documentaries and news journal programs. He has won numerous awards and honorary degrees for his investigative journalism and civic activities. He has become well known as a trenchant critic of the corporately structured U.S. news media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^Downloaded the series yesterday. No time to take a look. May not get to watch them until next week.

    Putin is an intelligent man so no surprise he makes Trump look like the buffoon he is.
    Not only intelligent, he's a hard man and he's been at the top for a long time.
    Trumps a schoolboy in short pants by comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    ^Yes that's why Bill Moyers allowed that article on his website.

    Do you know who he is?

    Bill Moyers Journal . Home | PBS

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    Billy Don "Bill" Moyers is an American journalist and political commentator. He served as White House Press Secretary in the Johnson administration from 1965 to 1967. He also worked as a network TV news commentator for ten years. Moyers has been extensively involved with public broadcasting, producing documentaries and news journal programs. He has won numerous awards and honorary degrees for his investigative journalism and civic activities. He has become well known as a trenchant critic of the corporately structured U.S. news media.

    Does he manufacture consent.? Harry prefers his thinking inside the box

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