Free Speech violently attacked in Berkeley

**RPETER65** · 08-02-2017, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Hitler was a far left socialist.

Once again you outdo yourself. He was a fcuking Facist. Had a little bit of problem with the Jews as well.

You needed to read up on your history,truth is he was a socialist to the highest degree,which is how he sold himself to the German people.

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MYTH BUSTED: Actually, Yes, Hitler Was a Socialist Liberal

COURTNEY KIRCHOFF THURSDAY JANUARY 28 2016
HitlerSocialist
A favorite tactic employed by leftists is to describe the Nazis as “right wing,” with Adolf Hitler, their leader, as the grand leader of this “right wing” movement. Rewriting history is pretty common for leftists, as their history is littered with injustice (the KKK was founded by Democrats, did you know?). Injustices they claim to fight against today. Awkward.

But thanks to this nifty thing called “history” in combination with “the internet,” we can bust this myth once and for all. Thoroughly. Or until a leftist insists on ignoring it. Then we’ll hold them down and tape their eyes open. Just kidding, that’s only what a leftist would do. For those who’d rather watch this column in video form, there’s one below. For those who prefer reading, yuck. But scroll down.

Adolf Hitler wasn’t “right wing.” If you take nothing else from this post, just remember Hitler was a socialist. With terrible facial hair. There’s an easy way to remember it, too. NAZI stands for National Socialist German Workers‘ Party. Associate it with blunt mustaches.

What does National Socialist German Worker’s Party mean? Glad you asked. Is it different from “Democratic socialism”? Only in semantics. A Democracy is mob rule, which is why America is actually a constitutional, representative republic, NOT a democracy. A representative republic protects the minority from the majority, whereas a democracy is the rule of the majority. Leftists get caught up in words, getting tripped up over “National Socialism” as opposed to “Democrat Socialism.” But it’s just that. Semantics. So when Hitler ginned up hatred for the Jews, he could get the mob to agree with him. He could get the mob to believe him. There were no representatives to stop Hitler. He was one man helming the desperation of a majority of people. Spot the difference?

When we examine Hitler’s Nazi Germany through the lens of history, most, if not all of us, think of the Holocaust. In fact the holocaust might be the only thing we associate with Hitler’s Nazis. We’ve all been told of the Jews being marched off to death camps where they were worked, tortured, then gassed. We’ve also heard of the experiments conducted by Hitler’s Dr. Mengele. All terrible practices which we rightly find horrifying. Unless you’re one of those people who think Planned Parenthood is great.

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What we don’t often hear or learn about is how Hitler ruled the rest of Germany, what his domestic policies were for the German people he didn’t march off to death camps. Hitler’s domestic, socialist policies will be the focus of this post. Trigger warning: they’re eerily similar to what American Democrats tout today. Double trigger warning? He initially had the support of the mob of people. So replace many of Hitler’s policies with something you hear from Bernie Sanders…

Brief Historical Background on Hitler…
Germany lost World War I. As such, Germany was in a state of economic and national depression. Not totally unusual for losing a giant war. But the depression was a long, drawn out one (15 years) leaving the German people poor, hungry, desperate, lacking any confidence. Then along came a young man named Adolf Hitler…

Hitler was a powerful and spellbinding speaker who attracted a wide following of Germans desperate for change. He promised the disenchanted a better life and a new and glorious Germany. The Nazis appealed especially to the unemployed, young people, and members of the lower middle class (small store owners, office employees, craftsmen, and farmers).

Human beings may advance technologically, but spiritually? Not so much. In fact I’d contest we rarely learn our lessons when choosing our leaders. Especially charismatic ones. If a man (or woman) can speak eloquently, with confidence, we cannot help but be enthralled. We often follow along, like the town’s children following the pied piper.

http://louderwithcrowder.com/myth-bu...alist-liberal/

https://www.google.co.th/url?sa=t&so...7ooEj_wNoljytA

If you still think Hitler was not a socialist you might want to read the above

**jamescollister** · 08-02-2017, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Hitler was a far left socialist.

Once again you outdo yourself. He was a fcuking Facist. Had a little bit of problem with the Jews as well.

No, got to get your isms correct, or you maybe supporting the wrong side.
Mussolini was a fascist [Italy]
Hitler was a national socialist,Nazi, thus supported many left wing ideas, but the nations people came first.
Stalin was a world socialist, communism, common ism USSR.
Then there or other isms, Capitalism etc, pick your ism, liberalism, conservatism, all really meaningless in truth.

**Humbert** · 08-02-2017, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Hitler was a national socialist,Nazi, thus supported many left wing ideas

Widely debunked right wing baloney

**Sumbitch** · 08-02-2017, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Then there or other isms, Capitalism etc, pick your ism

Catholicism

**RPETER65** · 08-02-2017, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Hitler was a national socialist,Nazi, thus supported many left wing ideas

Widely debunked right wing baloney

I guess you also need to brush up on the history of Adolf Hitler, obviously you speak of another Hitler.

**longway** · 08-02-2017, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

Originally Posted by longway

Perhaps you should look at the incredible number of assumptions you made about me, before lecturing me, based on further assumptions, about what I should or should not know about you.

..
WTF are you on about? I assumed you were not an American. That is a fact.

I assumed you have never been to Berkeley Ca. That is a fact.

I assumed you know very little about the American political system. That is a fact.

Damn you really are a moron. I did not know you could amplify moron with the adjective stupid. But in your case you can. A stupid moron.

Wow so are taking this surprisingly hard you sensitive little snowflake.

You assumed far more than that. For example

So you are a supporter of this guy Paul Golding. Can you expand on some of his policies and how they will help the UK?

Age One if you really think I am a stupid moron who knows very little about the us political system then take on a wager with me. You guys love to tell me how little you think I know, but when it comes to backing up your mouths, there are no trousers, just a bunch of pussies mincing around in skirts being silly little bitches.

and thats you, a silly little bitch.

**aging one** · 08-02-2017, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by longway

Age One if you really think I am a stupid moron who knows very little about the us political system then take on a wager with me. You guys love to tell me how little you think I know, but when it comes to backing up your mouths, there are no trousers, just a bunch of pussies mincing around in skirts being silly little bitches. and thats you, a silly little bitch.

Are you homophobic? Seems so.

Enjoy a nice parody....

**longway** · 08-02-2017, 06:57 PM

^ More assumptions, and of course no wager you silly little bitch.

and also

**Humbert** · 08-02-2017, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Hitler was a national socialist,Nazi, thus supported many left wing ideas

Widely debunked right wing baloney

I guess you also need to brush up on the history of Adolf Hitler, obviously you speak of another Hitler.

We've debunked this nonsense for you several times but you persist in dredging it up. You are simply an intellectual pygmy.

**Norton** · 08-02-2017, 07:41 PM

Speaking of attacking free speech. 2 links so I am not accused of snowflakism.

Warren barred from speaking on Senate floor for rest of Sessions debate | Fox News

Warren cut off during Sessions debate after criticism - CNNPolitics.com

**Farangrakthai** · 08-02-2017, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by longway

A lot of my posts were deleted. I wasn't being insulting either. try again.

AO one day you may leave lalaland

had a few posts deleted, too, and they didn't have any insults in them, just discussing/debating what a.o. said about a trump supporter must like hitler, etc.

mentioned to a.o. the millions of illegals obama deported if a.o.'s offended by trump's tough immigration talk:

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - ABC News

According to governmental data, the Obama administration has deported more people than any other president's administration in history.

In fact, they have deported more than the sum of all the presidents of the 20th century.

President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."

Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).

and, then mentioned that trump wasn't elected just because of his personality (like another poster mentioned) as many swing voters liked his bring jobs back platform as was evidenced by the number of swing voters who switched from obama to trump:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...rump-counties/

Of the nearly 700 counties that twice sent Obama to the White House, a stunning one-third flipped to support Trump.

Trump also won 194 of the 207 counties that voted for Obama either in 2008 or 2012.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Of course you were.

even if he was insulting a.o. how is it any worse than the insults on the last few pages of the trump thread which haven't been deleted?

Originally Posted by Humbert

You are simply an intellectual pygmy.

Originally Posted by longway

I wasn't being insulting either.

i guess, longway, we need to insult like humbert does everyday on the trump thread and exchange insults with other posters by calling them names. humbert (and the mods) never delete those posts.

so, let's insult a.o. like humbert does to others on the trump thread:

what it really comes down to, i'd guess is that humbert protects a.o. like he's his older brother who's a "bit slow".

Originally Posted by aging one

I am an American with two kids in the UC system. I think I know what is going on quite well in my own country, and believe it or not the wife and I do

Originally Posted by aging one

I assumed you have never been to Berkeley Ca. That is a fact.

anyone who thinks they have a better, intellectually sound, more informed opinion about the attacks in berkely because their daughters study in cali or he's visited berkeley is simply just shallow and a.o., here's some advice.

last month i never responded to your posts as there was no "there" there to reply to.

though, you've kept sending me reds the last few weeks, which says to me: "hey frt look at me, i'm paying attention to your posts, please pay attention to my posts.

and then you say yesterday: "hey newbie bring it",

though, in the end, you're still just that little wimp who hides behind reds and reports posts (can dish it out but can't take it).

so, a.o. why not stay in the shallow end of the pool so you don't have to go running to the mods to protect you when you come out looking like a moron in the deeper waters.

**longway** · 08-02-2017, 08:22 PM

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/02...ating-in-riot/

More on the berekely staffer under investigation and more detailed info on some of the violence that took place that was the cause so much glee for at least one of the posters.

UC Berkeley We are aware of allegations involving a UC Berkeley employee. UCPD is working with the FBI to pursue all leads in investigating the case and we will provide updates as warranted.

Kiara had been pepper-sprayed while giving an interview, and Katrina was seen in widely disseminated videos pinned against a barrier, in obvious distress. She had been separated from her husband after she was blinded by pepper spray; meanwhile, her husband was viciously assaulted and ended up in the hospital with a severe concussion and broken ribs.

**Farangrakthai** · 08-02-2017, 08:33 PM

good op-ed in the la times today:

UC Berkeley?s descent from place of learning to victimology hothouse - LA Times

Even before its students rioted in the streets, distressed that right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos would dare to open his mouth in their presence, UC Berkeley presented a visual illustration of the academy’s decline from a place of learning to a victimology hothouse. Within walking distance on the Berkeley campus are emblems of both a vanished academic world and the diversity-industrial complex that ousted it.

One of Berkeley’s likely oppressors offers a suitably groveling banner: “I will think before I speak and act,” promises a white male student from the class of 2016. Ordinarily, such a vow of self-control might seem like a bourgeois virtue worthy of Ben Franklin. In the current academic context, however, it means: “I will mentally scan the University of California’s official list of microaggressions before I open my mouth.”

The head of the bureaucracy that created the banner campaign weighs in with her own banner. “Respect the full humanity of others,” urges Na’ilah Suad Nasir, the vice chancellor for equity and inclusion. This admonition would be appropriate when trying to mediate, say, between warring tribes given to slaughtering each other’s members. But the assumption that Berkeley’s pacific students are at risk of seriously violating one another’s humanity, beyond the ordinary slights of everyday social interaction, is absurd. What this seemingly gratuitous admonition really means is: “Do not violate any politically correct taboo.”

**longway** · 08-02-2017, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Speaking of attacking free speech. 2 links so I am not accused of snowflakism.

Warren barred from speaking on Senate floor for rest of Sessions debate | Fox News

Warren cut off during Sessions debate after criticism - CNNPolitics.com

Personally i think they should let the witless loon ramble on; I can only hope she continues to grandstand in her role as self appointed spokeswoman for libtards, and I would have thought as long as she could send smoke signals, she cant be silenced.

**longway** · 08-02-2017, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

good op-ed in the la times today:

UC Berkeley?s descent from place of learning to victimology hothouse - LA Times

Even before its students rioted in the streets, distressed that right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos would dare to open his mouth in their presence, UC Berkeley presented a visual illustration of the academy’s decline from a place of learning to a victimology hothouse. Within walking distance on the Berkeley campus are emblems of both a vanished academic world and the diversity-industrial complex that ousted it.

One of Berkeley’s likely oppressors offers a suitably groveling banner: “I will think before I speak and act,” promises a white male student from the class of 2016. Ordinarily, such a vow of self-control might seem like a bourgeois virtue worthy of Ben Franklin. In the current academic context, however, it means: “I will mentally scan the University of California’s official list of microaggressions before I open my mouth.”

The head of the bureaucracy that created the banner campaign weighs in with her own banner. “Respect the full humanity of others,” urges Na’ilah Suad Nasir, the vice chancellor for equity and inclusion. This admonition would be appropriate when trying to mediate, say, between warring tribes given to slaughtering each other’s members. But the assumption that Berkeley’s pacific students are at risk of seriously violating one another’s humanity, beyond the ordinary slights of everyday social interaction, is absurd. What this seemingly gratuitous admonition really means is: “Do not violate any politically correct taboo.”

And to police this ever more bizarre and elaborate etiquette of human interaction is social ostracisation, university sanction, and the threat of violence. Good job libtards.

**RPETER65** · 09-02-2017, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Hitler was a national socialist,Nazi, thus supported many left wing ideas

Widely debunked right wing baloney

I guess you also need to brush up on the history of Adolf Hitler, obviously you speak of another Hitler.

We've debunked this nonsense for you several times but you persist in dredging it up. You are simply an intellectual pygmy.

You obviously don't follow these threads very closely this is the first time I have put up anything about Adolf Hitler.

**Humbert** · 09-02-2017, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

I wasn't being insulting either. i guess, longway, we need to insult like humbert does everyday on the trump thread and exchange insults with other posters by calling them names. humbert (and the mods) never delete those posts.
so, let's insult a.o. like humbert does to others on the trump thread:
what it really comes down to, i'd guess is that humbert protects a.o. like he's his older brother who's a "bit slow".

This thread has been allowed to become a whiny, pity party. Why not move it member's only if that's the master plan?

**Humbert** · 09-02-2017, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

i guess, longway, we need to insult like humbert does everyday on the trump thread and exchange insults with other posters by calling them names. humbert (and the mods) never delete those posts.

Listen, some of us that have exchanges that you are referring to have a long history of give and take. We get jabs and we give jabs. We have developed kind of a skin. You are a newbie here and have no history with anybody. If you want to come in here and play sheriff bring it on. You will find life very unpleasant if you get rankled about a bit of banter.

**Farangrakthai** · 09-02-2017, 09:14 PM

this rolling stone piece makes some good points:

Berkeley Riots: Inside the Campus Showdown Over Free Speech - Rolling Stone

Citrin, who received his PhD from Berkeley in 1970 and was passionate about the free speech movement as a student, says he was heartened by the chancellor's decision to resist pressure and allow the event to go forward. He argued much along the same lines as the op-ed written by the Free Speech Movement Archive Board of Directors.

"If even a 10th of the 100 or so faculty who signed those pro-ban open letters showed up to ask this bigot tough questions or held a teach-in about what's wrong and unethical in his vitriol," read the op-ed,"they could puncture his PR bubble instantly, avoid casting him in the role of free speech martyr and prove that the best cure for ignorant and hateful speech is speech that unmasks its illogic, cruelty and stupidity."

Citrin believes the battle for free speech on college campuses is still raging, just in a new way. "I think the defense of free speech is a very real issue now," he says. "And that battle takes place in many forms, and includes demands for so-called 'safe spaces,' – which I view as absurd. There's a whole range of issues that have arisen that has made the firm commitment to free speech in academia less secure."

But after the violent clashes, the lines of communication and bedrock of trust on campus can be hard to find. Mogulof recalled a phone call he received before the protests.

"I had a faculty member of the campus call me and say, 'You must ban him,'" he recalls. "I said, 'We're not allowed to do that, he is protected by the first amendment.' They say 'No, he's not.' So I say, 'Why do you believe that?' and they said, 'Because he's wrong.'"

**koman** · 11-02-2017, 01:46 PM

How the left so called progressives defines "right wing" .....a good explanation from a Harvard Prof. We see what he talks about in this forum on a daily basis.

The video starts off with a long winded question so just give the man time to get a word in and answer it....

**Little Chuchok** · 11-02-2017, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

i guess, longway, we need to insult like humbert does everyday on the trump thread and exchange insults with other posters by calling them names. humbert (and the mods) never delete those posts.

Listen, some of us that have exchanges that you are referring to have a long history of give and take. We get jabs and we give jabs. We have developed kind of a skin. You are a newbie here and have no history with anybody. If you want to come in here and play sheriff bring it on. You will find life very unpleasant if you get rankled about a bit of banter.

What's with this newbie crap.As if having a shit load of posts behind your name means anything at all on here except having a shit load of posts.

Anyway, as you were...

**Little Chuchok** · 11-02-2017, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by koman

How the left so called progressives defines "right wing" .....a good explanation from a Harvard Prof. We see what he talks about in this forum on a daily basis.

The video starts off with a long winded question so just give the man time to get a word in and answer it....

That is so true. Just because you don't see the world exactly as they see it, you're a Nazi.Sad,very sad...

**Humbert** · 11-02-2017, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

What's with this newbie crap

I thought the sentence you quoted was self-explanatory. Are you learning impaired?

**RPETER65** · 12-02-2017, 09:59 AM

Rubin: Why I Left The Left
Why I Left the Left

BY: AARON BANDLERFEBRUARY 11, 2017
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Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report explains in a new PragerU video that he can no longer call himself a progressive because the movement has devolved into a feelings-based silencing of speech rather than accepting the free exchange of ideas.

Rubin used to have his show on The Young Turks, a far-left network, as he once thought that a progressive meant being like "liberals but louder." But Rubin soon realized that this was not the case, as progressives no longer seemed to tolerate freedom of speech based on their penchant for "trigger warnings" and prohibiting those with opposing viewpoints from speaking on college campuses.

VIDEOReligious Freedom Has New Support

"All of this has led me to be believe that much of the Left is no longer progressive, but regressive," Rubin said. "This is one of the reasons I’ve spent so much time on my show talking about The Regressive Left. This regressive ideology doesn’t judge people as individuals, but as a collective."

Indeed, as Rubin goes on to explain, "The Regressive Left" is a hierarchy of "oppression" based simply on minority status, judging people on their racial/cultural/gender identity rather than their individual merits.

Additionally, Rubin notes that "The Regressive Left" does not respect freedom of religion either, consistently attempting to force businesses to provide services even if it goes against their religious values — even going so far as to require nuns to pay for abortifacients.

Rubin concludes by stating that progressives' suppression of free speech and freedom of religion through feelings and minority status is a form of tyranny.

"I can no longer call myself a progressive," Rubin said. "I don’t really call myself a Democrat either. I'm a classical liberal, a free thinker, and as much as I don’t like to admit it, defending my liberal values has suddenly become a conservative position.

"So, if you think people should be able to say what they think without being punished for it; that people should be judged by their behavior, not their skin color; and that people should be able to live the way that they want to live, without government interference, then there’s not much left on the left for you."

Rubin: Why I Left The Left | Daily Wire

**longway** · 16-02-2017, 09:53 AM

an insano in the braino anti fascist organizer speaks on Tucker Carlson about milo. Watch it and decide for yourself who the real fascists are. These nutters would have been in control if shillary had gotten elected.

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