Thread: Free Speech violently attacked in Berkeley

Originally Posted by misskit

Milo will probably reinvent himself as a porn star since he has crashed and burned in his current career

Suffered a severe setback for sure, but unlikely to finish him off. He has millions of followers now, and from the way he handled himself in the two videos posted here today, he seems quite capable of making a comeback. We shall see, but I'm betting he will survive and thrive, given a bit of time to regroup. He trolls relentlessly and on occasion, gets carried away with his gallows humor; and gets swamped by the blowback; then switches into serious mode and handles things like a real pro.

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He should work for the White House, his book will get published anyway and be a best seller

Trump will put him on the National Security Council alongside Bannon.

Originally Posted by koman

he seems quite capable of making a comeback

Yeah, pedos have a tremendous reservoir of good will with the general public.

Like Ted Heath you mean?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

take a minute to think before you post, humbert.

He's a defender of pedophilia you moron.

so, you agree with humbert that milo is a pedo?

^ Humbert didn't say Milo is a pedo.

Just to remind Milo's defenders what 13-year-old boys look like.



Children.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

so, you agree with humbert that milo is a pedo?

i'll go with what my good friends at CPAC had to say....

In a statement Monday, American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp said, "Due to the revelation of an offensive video in the past 24 hours condoning pedophilia, the American Conservative Union has decided to rescind the invitation of Milo Yiannopoulos to speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference."

and btw, how'd you enjoy his implosion?

Originally Posted by koman

That was foking outstanding.

'Generation Trump' did he say?

Shit...too depressing to contemplate.

Remember when this story was about intolerant liberals?

Assault charges filed Monday against a Ravenna couple in connection with the shooting of a protester outside a speech by former Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos on Jan. 20 allege they went to the University of Washington campus that night looking for trouble.

Marc and Elizabeth Hokoana had armed themselves — him with pepper-spray and her with a Glock semi-automatic handgun in a holster under her coat — and went to the protest intending to goad demonstrators they knew would be there, King County prosecutors allege. Some witnesses said Marc Hokoana appeared to be intoxicated.

According to the charges, the day before Yiannopoulos was scheduled to talk at Kane Hall, Marc Hokoana had messaged a friend on Facebook, stating, “I can’t wait for tomorrow. I’m going to the milo event and if the snowflakes get out off hand I’m going to wade through their ranks and start cracking skulls.”

His friend asked him if he was “going to carry.”

Hokoana responded, “Nah, I’m going full melee,” but then wrote “Lily … is,” referring to his wife, Elizabeth.

The charges allege Elizabeth Hokoana fired a single round from the handgun into the stomach of 34-year-old Joshua Dukes, a member of the International Workers of the World (IWW), as Dukes confronted Marc Hokoana for using pepper spray in the crowd.

Dukes was critically wounded in the shooting.

Elizabeth Hokoana, 29, is charged with first-degree assault, with a firearm enhancement, and her husband, Marc, also 29, a one-time UW student, is charged with third-degree assault over his alleged use of pepper spray.

Prosecutors will seek bail for each of them at $50,000 when they are arraigned on May 8. The couple remain free.

If convicted as charged, Elizabeth Hokoana could face up to 10 years in prison. The standard sentencing range for third-degree assault is one to three months in jail, with no prior convictions, plus 12 months of community custody “The degree of planning involved in this crime demonstrates the danger that these defendants present to the community,” wrote Senior Deputy Prosecutor Mary Barbosa, who has been reviewing the University of Washington police investigation into the shooting for nearly two weeks.

The shooting, Barbosa noted, “was not an impulsive act done in a moment of fear.”
Evidence in the charging papers “demonstrates that the defendants went to the event at the UW campus with the intent to provoke altercations with protesters who they knew would be at this controversial event,” Barbosa wrote.

“The defendants created a situation designed to allow Elizabeth Hokoana to shoot the victim in the middle of an extremely crowded event under the guise of defending her or her husband,” she added.
Steve Wells, the attorney for Elizabeth Hokoana, and Kim Gordon, Marc Hokoana’s attorney, issued a joint statement Monday vowing to fight the charges, reiterating earlier claims that the shooting was justified.
“We have provided the police and the prosecution evidence showing that our clients acted lawfully in defense of others,” the statement said. “The accuser, Joshua Dukes, has repeatedly stated that he does not want this to go through the criminal-justice system. We are disappointed that the prosecution has decided otherwise. We look forward to presenting our case to a jury and we anticipate an acquittal.”

Dukes’ attorney, Sarah Lippek, has said her client did not want criminal charges to be filed and had hoped to engage in “restorative justice” with the couple.
“Being shot was devastating for Mr. Dukes, his family, and his community. The Hokoanas harmed many people by their violent actions,” Lippek wrote.
Dukes hopes the couple will take accountability for their actions, Lippek wrote, as well as taking weapons into “already unstable circumstances” and escalating the violence.
She said restorative justice allows dialogue between those who have caused harm and their victims to identify how accountability can be reached.

“The process is not a substitute for accountability, but a tool to reach it,” Lippek wrote, saying a criminal prosecution doesn’t usually allow for such interaction.

A police statement of probable cause outlines an investigation that included talking to several witnesses as well as a detailed review and professional analysis of numerous cellphone videos of the protest and shooting. Some of the videos were later enhanced and reviewed by experts, according to the charges.
The Seattle Times obtained copies of the videos under a public-records request.

Several witnesses identified Marc Hokoana as an agitator who was goading the protesters, police wrote.

The shooting came after Marc Hokoana, in a Facebook message reviewed by The Seattle Times before it was taken down, messaged Yiannopoulos and said he had lost his “Make America Great Again” hat after being punched. He asked Yiannopoulos if he would autograph a new one, but Yiannopoulos never replied.
The charges identified a witness, “B.F.,” who saw and took still photographs of a scuffle involving an Asian man who “had a red Make America Great Again hat he lost in a fight” and who detectives identified through the photos as Marc Hokoana.
“B.F. stated that the individual kept going over to the group of protesters and agitating the group by calling them snowflakes, libtards and saying that (Trump) was their president,” according to the charges. “B.F. stated that the man seemed to be there only to provoke the crowd.”
The charges allege Marc Hokoana used a small tear-gas gun on members of the crowd. Dukes had apparently moved to break up a conflict between Hokoana and a group when he was shot.

The Hokoanas turned themselves in to UW police about two hours after the shooting and said they had been involved in a “self-defense” shooting.

However, the charging documents allege the Hokoanas went to the UW campus that night looking for a reason to use to use the weapons they were carrying.

One video clip reviewed by a detective “showed Elizabeth Hokoana with her right hand under her coat as her husband, Marc Hokoana, was directly in front of her in the video assisting a person as he confronted the protesters.”

The movement, the detective said, “was consistent with a person who was attempting to pull a concealed pistol from a holster.”

That video clip was taken a half-hour before the shooting, according to the charges.

A review of several videos of the actual shooting by Grant Fredericks of Forensic Video Solutions, an independent video expert, indicated that Mark Hokoana was facing away from Dukes at the time of the shooting while Elizabeth Hokoana was looking right at Dukes when the shot was fired, and then backed away from him.

David Hallimore, an audio specialist with Recorded Evidence Solutions, said he was able to extract some audio from the recording. He says Marc Hokoana can be heard telling Elizabeth to “calm down” and “Don’t shoot anyone.”

“Marc Hokoana can then be heard telling Elizabeth Hokoana that others in the crowd, ‘They have to start this. They have to start it.’ ”


Couple charged with assault in shooting, melee during UW speech by Milo Yiannopoulos | The Seattle Times

^ Another reminder that Washington state isn't as blue as many think it is.

^ That was the actions of two people. But ya I would agree outside of Seattle and King county it is a mixed bag. I was up in Lynnwood the other day shopping and stopped in to a bar for a drink got into it with a female Drumpf supporter bitching about poor people on Obamacare. I gave her both barrels and she stormed off in a huff. Had no logical response to my comments other than to say "That's not how we do it in America". These people are so indoctrinated that they wouldn't know the truth it if smacked them in the head.

Berkeley now too rowdy for Coulter to appear.


Ann Coulter speech at UC Berkeley canceled, again, amid fears for safety

Conservative commentator Ann Coulter said Wednesday that her planned speech at the University of California at Berkeley this week was canceled amid mounting concerns about potentially violent protests.

Coulter said in an email that the Young America’s Foundation canceled her appearance scheduled for Thursday, ordering her not to go to the Berkeley campus. The university realized that the group “wasn’t serious and dropped ongoing negotiations over a room,” she wrote. “Everyone who should be for free speech has turned tail and run.”

The university sent a message to the campus community Wednesday in the midst of uncertainty over whether, or when, Coulter might come to campus. After the university originally canceled her speech for Thursday and instead invited her to speak there next week, Coulter had vowed to speak anyway; with the university not offering a venue, campus Republican groups had been discussing her possibly appearing on a public plaza, where security would have been challenging.

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^ I do not agree with these antifa agitators nor their right wing counterparts that have recently sprung up.

It should be pointed out that these are not "leftist" groups they are anarchists.

As GW always has claimed, they do not like us because we are free.

We have a freedom of speech, as long the speech is not against us.

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ That was the actions of two people. But ya I would agree outside of Seattle and King county it is a mixed bag. I was up in Lynnwood the other day shopping and stopped in to a bar for a drink got into it with a female Drumpf supporter bitching about poor people on Obamacare. I gave her both barrels and she stormed off in a huff. Had no logical response to my comments other than to say "That's not how we do it in America". These people are so indoctrinated that they wouldn't know the truth it if smacked them in the head.

This happened

^ Yep and if you were there I would have slapped you around too.

^ Scientifically impossible on any level whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Slick

^ Scientifically impossible

"scientifically" impossible, eh?

^ Im posting from my phone right now, you annoying ball-licking faggot.

What's your excuse?

Originally Posted by Slick

^ Im posting from my phone right now

errrr....thanks for sharing......what's your point?

It's a shame, they should have let Coulter come, she's the perfect comedy foil.