Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Originally Posted by pseudolus

No because as soon as the annexation ended, they reverted back to being Palestinian, awaiting israel to Annex them legally, which they will never do, because that would mean giving them a vote, and ceasing all of their barbaric apartheid activities and pulling down the walls.

Oh I see so they was Jordanian's whilst living there then reverted back to Palestinians expecting the Israeli's to give the West bank to them then after the Israeli's lost almost a thousand service men ? FFS get real

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by pseudolus

No because as soon as the annexation ended, they reverted back to being Palestinian, awaiting israel to Annex them legally, which they will never do, because that would mean giving them a vote, and ceasing all of their barbaric apartheid activities and pulling down the walls.

Oh I see so they was Jordanian's whilst living there then reverted back to Palestinians expecting the Israeli's to give the West bank to them then after the Israeli's lost almost a thousand service men ? FFS get real

What do you suggest happened then when the annexation of the West Bank and the Palestinians living there ended? You think they stayed as Palestinian Nationals with Jordanian citizenship?

NO. The REVERTED to being just plain old fashioned Palestinians.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

FFS you said yourself there was no Palastinians in the West Bank pre 1967

What a dumb statement. There have been Palestinians in Palestine since the people in what eventually became England were daubing themselves with ochre and dancing around campfires. Jaffa (now a part of sprawling Tel Aviv) is considered the oldest continuously occupied city in the history of the world- although some scholars argue it might be Aleppo. It certainly isn't Jerusalem, which was a city with an advanced water supply by the standards of the time, long before the first immigrant Hebrew ever laid eyes on the place. They migrated from what is now Kurdistan, northern Iraq.

Interesting article by ex PLO terrorist Walid Shoebat who went to bed a Jordanian but when he woke up next morning he was a Palastinian Palestinian Myths

Originally Posted by piwanoi

all reverted back to Palestinians in the West Bank

That is part of historic Palestine. How can they 'revert' to being Palestinian, These people are much older than ours piwi.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

all reverted back to Palestinians in the West Bank

That is part of historic Palestine. How can they 'revert' to being Palestinian, These people are much older than ours piwi.

Piwi is being a cock and deliberately trying to misconstrue what I wrote.

When jordan annexed the West Bank they gave citizen rights to the Palestinians. When that ended, they reverted back to being Palestinians in their own right, rather than being Palestinian Jordanians.

It was a poor use on my behalf of the word "reverted", and I should have instead used a phrase such as "after the exit of Jordan, the Palestinians were no longer Jordanian citizens" or something like that but even then our resident village idiot would find something to "yeah but yeah but" about.

Keep your nonsense in the DOG HOUSE Piwi.

You have a choice - talk about the subject, discuss the UN Resolution 2257 (2015), or anything like that, but just fuck off with your non stop bullshit.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by pseudolus

No because as soon as the annexation ended, they reverted back to being Palestinian, awaiting israel to Annex them legally, which they will never do, because that would mean giving them a vote, and ceasing all of their barbaric apartheid activities and pulling down the walls.

Oh I see so they was Jordanian's whilst living there then reverted back to Palestinians expecting the Israeli's to give the West bank to them then after the Israeli's lost almost a thousand service men ? FFS get real

What do you suggest happened then when the annexation of the West Bank and the Palestinians living there ended? You think they stayed as Palestinian Nationals with Jordanian citizenship?

NO. The REVERTED to being just plain old fashioned Palestinians.

Before Arafat they were never called Palestinians.

They became Israeli citizens at the end of the 1967 6-Day War, most now identify themselves as such.

Originally Posted by ENT

They became Israeli citizens at the end of the 1967 6-Day War, most now identify themselves as such.

Utter nonsense.

Originally Posted by ENT

Before Arafat they were never called Palestinians.

Revisionist bullshit.

Originally Posted by ENT

Before Arafat they were never called Palestinians.

Right just to prove once and for all that there is no foundation in this utter lie, propagated by the globally discredited book From Time Immemorial and then a raft of other books produced by the ADL, let's have a look at Hansard, the recordings of the British Parliament.

25 June 1918

ARAB POLITICAL REPRESENTATIVES (VISIT TO PALESTINE).

HC Deb 25 June 1918 vol 107 c903W 903W
§Major Earl WINTERTON asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what facilities have been given to the Palestinian and Syrian political leaders now in Egypt to visit Palestine?

§Lord R. CECIL A Commission of Syrian Arab political representatives from Cairo visited Palestine early last month and met Moslem and Christian leaders and the heads of the various communities in the occupied area.

21st March,`1927

25. Colonel WEDGWOOD asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies when it is proposed to commence the construction of Government offices in Jerusalem; what Government buildings, costing how much, have been constructed in Palestine during the past eight years; and will wages paid to labour in such future construction be based on the cost of living of Jews?

§Mr. AMERY Plans for the proposed new Government offices in Jerusalem are now being prepared, but the site selected for them is in dispute. I hope however that the commencement of their construction will not be long delayed. I will send the right hon. Gentleman a copy of a return showing the Government buildings constructed during the past eight years. As regards the last part of the question, the rates of wages offered for labour to be employed on the construction of Government buildings must vary in each case according to the locality and the class of workmen which it is desired to attract.

§Colonel WEDGWOOD May we presume that it is desired to employ upon these buildings some of the many thousands of unemployed there?

§Mr. AMERY Yes, Sir. If the work is being done in the locality where they are or in a locality to which they can be brought.

§Sir FREDRIC WISE Who is going to pay for these new buildings?
15
§Colonel WEDGWOOD The Palestinians.

§Mr. AMERY The revenues of Palestine or the loan moneys raised by Palestine.

April 26 1938

Captain Cazalet Is my right hon. Friend satisfied that there is full cooperation between the police and the military now for the maintenance of order in Palestine?

§Mr. Ormsby-Gore Oh, yes, absolutely.
§Mr. Gallacher The Palestinians are fighting for their rights.

yes. and they still are!

There are hundreds more

This is interesting...
22 July 1833

HC Deb 22 July 1833 vol 19 cc1075-81 1075

. Now, having been himself for some time at Jerusalem, having made Palestine the subject of his peculiar and careful observation, and having examined into the state and condition of the Jews there and elsewhere, he was bound to say, that he had never heard of a single English Jew 1078 having visited Palestine, even as a matter of curiosity or recreation. If their affection for the Holy Land had been so unconquerable as had been supposed—there were many Jews in England, who had leisure and means in abundance, to enable them to make a visit to that country; but they never thought of going so far: and as to those who inhabited Jerusalem, or any part of Palestine, of which there were many of Asiatic and some of European birth, the oppressions under which they suffered, and the degradations to which they were subject, were such as to make their abode a continued scene of suffering: and, accordingly, as soon as they could possess themselves of the means of competency, or even of removal, they generally hastened with all possible speed, to get away from the country and its persecutions, and repair to some other happier land.

So as you can clearly see, Palestine and the Palestians "existed" long before the fake revisionist zionist and israeli history says they did

Any questions?

Why are you such a self-hating western spoiled brat Pseudo?
(if your a muslim your excused and brain damage is the known cause.)

We all know dam well if it would be vise versa meaning arabs/muslims are in controll of the ME,western brats like you would be taken care of Allah Sharia.

Why should we make any concessions to arabs/muslims when we know VERY well that they would NEVER do the same for us ? I would go even further and say that they would treat us (non-muslims) even worst. There is enough proof if you put aside your hate for jews and start opening your eyes.

Alea iacta est !

Very good example of the typical israel supporting knob.

I systematically PROVE that Palestinians not only existed, as did Palestine, long before the revisionist lies say they did, using the records of the British Parliament from over a century, and the response from Herman is something that would make the nazis proud.

I am so glad that my mind is not polluted with the lies and hate that you suffer from.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

Before Arafat they were never called Palestinians.

Right just to prove once and for all that there is no foundation in this utter lie, propagated by the globally discredited book From Time Immemorial and then a raft of other books produced by the ADL, let's have a look at Hansard, the recordings of the British Parliament.

25 June 1918

ARAB POLITICAL REPRESENTATIVES (VISIT TO PALESTINE).

HC Deb 25 June 1918 vol 107 c903W 903W
§Major Earl WINTERTON asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what facilities have been given to the Palestinian and Syrian political leaders now in Egypt to visit Palestine?

§Lord R. CECIL A Commission of Syrian Arab political representatives from Cairo visited Palestine early last month and met Moslem and Christian leaders and the heads of the various communities in the occupied area.

21st March,`1927

25. Colonel WEDGWOOD asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies when it is proposed to commence the construction of Government offices in Jerusalem; what Government buildings, costing how much, have been constructed in Palestine during the past eight years; and will wages paid to labour in such future construction be based on the cost of living of Jews?

§Mr. AMERY Plans for the proposed new Government offices in Jerusalem are now being prepared, but the site selected for them is in dispute. I hope however that the commencement of their construction will not be long delayed. I will send the right hon. Gentleman a copy of a return showing the Government buildings constructed during the past eight years. As regards the last part of the question, the rates of wages offered for labour to be employed on the construction of Government buildings must vary in each case according to the locality and the class of workmen which it is desired to attract.

§Colonel WEDGWOOD May we presume that it is desired to employ upon these buildings some of the many thousands of unemployed there?

§Mr. AMERY Yes, Sir. If the work is being done in the locality where they are or in a locality to which they can be brought.

§Sir FREDRIC WISE Who is going to pay for these new buildings?
15
§Colonel WEDGWOOD The Palestinians.

§Mr. AMERY The revenues of Palestine or the loan moneys raised by Palestine.

April 26 1938

Captain Cazalet Is my right hon. Friend satisfied that there is full cooperation between the police and the military now for the maintenance of order in Palestine?

§Mr. Ormsby-Gore Oh, yes, absolutely.
§Mr. Gallacher The Palestinians are fighting for their rights.

yes. and they still are!

There are hundreds more

This is interesting...
22 July 1833

HC Deb 22 July 1833 vol 19 cc1075-81 1075

. Now, having been himself for some time at Jerusalem, having made Palestine the subject of his peculiar and careful observation, and having examined into the state and condition of the Jews there and elsewhere, he was bound to say, that he had never heard of a single English Jew 1078 having visited Palestine, even as a matter of curiosity or recreation. If their affection for the Holy Land had been so unconquerable as had been supposed—there were many Jews in England, who had leisure and means in abundance, to enable them to make a visit to that country; but they never thought of going so far: and as to those who inhabited Jerusalem, or any part of Palestine, of which there were many of Asiatic and some of European birth, the oppressions under which they suffered, and the degradations to which they were subject, were such as to make their abode a continued scene of suffering: and, accordingly, as soon as they could possess themselves of the means of competency, or even of removal, they generally hastened with all possible speed, to get away from the country and its persecutions, and repair to some other happier land.

So as you can clearly see, Palestine and the Palestians "existed" long before the fake revisionist zionist and israeli history says they did

Any questions?

Still waiting for anyone to deny this, and to persist that it Palestinians did not exist, and indeed, Palestine didn't exist.

Come on, you revisionist idiots, try to deny it with FACTS and not some rubbish from some Joan Peters fiction that you all seem to believe.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Very good example of the typical israel supporting knob.

I systematically PROVE that Palestinians not only existed, as did Palestine, long before the revisionist lies say they did, using the records of the British Parliament from over a century, and the response from Herman is something that would make the nazis proud.

I am so glad that my mind is not polluted with the lies and hate that you suffer from.

So just WHO did The Israeli's fight the war with and take the land which They had been holding for nearly two decades The Jordanians or The Palestinians ?are you trying to imply the The Pali's had an Air force and the ruler Jordanian king Hussain who signed the pact with Egypt did not exist ?

Couple of dickheads arrive with their revisionist garbage again.

Did the Palestinians and Palestine exist prior to the creation of israel.

British Government historical documents says YES, a couple of dickheads says no.

Hmmmm who to believe.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Very good example of the typical israel supporting knob.

I systematically PROVE that Palestinians not only existed, as did Palestine, long before the revisionist lies say they did, using the records of the British Parliament from over a century, and the response from Herman is something that would make the nazis proud.

I am so glad that my mind is not polluted with the lies and hate that you suffer from.

I am so glad that I proofed once again that islamic culture is not compatible, they harbor deep resentment against secularism and Western values.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Still waiting for anyone to deny this, and to persist that it Palestinians did not exist, and indeed, Palestine didn't exist.

Dinosaurs existed...now they are extinct.

The cycle of Life surely did'nt exclude the Palestinians.

Unbelievably this week marks the 100th anniversary of the Sykes-Picot Agreement.

What a tangled web the Brits and French wove.

I can only conjecture as to who spoke for the Armenians during WW1. What an utter disgrace as both parties provided carte blanche to genocide again prior to WW2.
The United Nation (er...ummm...League of Nations) handling the matters of the world so wonderfully.

The league of nations did not exist when the Syke Picot was made.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

secularism and Western values

Name a European country that is actually secular. Just one please.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

Before Arafat they were never called Palestinians.

Right just to prove once and for all that there is no foundation in this utter lie, propagated by the globally discredited book From Time Immemorial and then a raft of other books produced by the ADL, let's have a look at Hansard, the recordings of the British Parliament.

25 June 1918

ARAB POLITICAL REPRESENTATIVES (VISIT TO PALESTINE).

HC Deb 25 June 1918 vol 107 c903W 903W
§Major Earl WINTERTON asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what facilities have been given to the Palestinian and Syrian political leaders now in Egypt to visit Palestine?

§Lord R. CECIL A Commission of Syrian Arab political representatives from Cairo visited Palestine early last month and met Moslem and Christian leaders and the heads of the various communities in the occupied area.

21st March,`1927

25. Colonel WEDGWOOD asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies when it is proposed to commence the construction of Government offices in Jerusalem; what Government buildings, costing how much, have been constructed in Palestine during the past eight years; and will wages paid to labour in such future construction be based on the cost of living of Jews?

§Mr. AMERY Plans for the proposed new Government offices in Jerusalem are now being prepared, but the site selected for them is in dispute. I hope however that the commencement of their construction will not be long delayed. I will send the right hon. Gentleman a copy of a return showing the Government buildings constructed during the past eight years. As regards the last part of the question, the rates of wages offered for labour to be employed on the construction of Government buildings must vary in each case according to the locality and the class of workmen which it is desired to attract.

§Colonel WEDGWOOD May we presume that it is desired to employ upon these buildings some of the many thousands of unemployed there?

§Mr. AMERY Yes, Sir. If the work is being done in the locality where they are or in a locality to which they can be brought.

§Sir FREDRIC WISE Who is going to pay for these new buildings?
15
§Colonel WEDGWOOD The Palestinians.

§Mr. AMERY The revenues of Palestine or the loan moneys raised by Palestine.

April 26 1938

Captain Cazalet Is my right hon. Friend satisfied that there is full cooperation between the police and the military now for the maintenance of order in Palestine?

§Mr. Ormsby-Gore Oh, yes, absolutely.
§Mr. Gallacher The Palestinians are fighting for their rights.

yes. and they still are!

There are hundreds more

This is interesting...
22 July 1833

HC Deb 22 July 1833 vol 19 cc1075-81 1075

. Now, having been himself for some time at Jerusalem, having made Palestine the subject of his peculiar and careful observation, and having examined into the state and condition of the Jews there and elsewhere, he was bound to say, that he had never heard of a single English Jew 1078 having visited Palestine, even as a matter of curiosity or recreation. If their affection for the Holy Land had been so unconquerable as had been supposed—there were many Jews in England, who had leisure and means in abundance, to enable them to make a visit to that country; but they never thought of going so far: and as to those who inhabited Jerusalem, or any part of Palestine, of which there were many of Asiatic and some of European birth, the oppressions under which they suffered, and the degradations to which they were subject, were such as to make their abode a continued scene of suffering: and, accordingly, as soon as they could possess themselves of the means of competency, or even of removal, they generally hastened with all possible speed, to get away from the country and its persecutions, and repair to some other happier land.

So as you can clearly see, Palestine and the Palestians "existed" long before the fake revisionist zionist and israeli history says they did

Any questions?

Still waiting for anyone to deny this, and to persist that it Palestinians did not exist, and indeed, Palestine didn't exist.

Come on, you revisionist idiots, try to deny it with FACTS and not some rubbish from some Joan Peters fiction that you all seem to believe.

Still waiting .

After so much "Palestinians and Palestine never existed" from Piwi, Herman, peecoffemultinik, Ent etc... lets see your evidence that contradicts Hansard.

Ahhh I can imagine WIKI smoking with all the furious searching on there right now.

Psue, did you read all of what you posted from notes taken 22 July 1833 regarding Emancipation of the Jews whereby upholding the right of a non-Christian to become a member of Parliament and the discussion of British Jews loyalty to England as opposed to Jerusalem ?

Almost every Jew was forced out of every Arab country in 1948. Where were they forced to go ...and they became citizens of a "Jewish State". Tough to turn back the clock.
I would wish for a two-State solution but who is going to enforce the peace ?
(The UN can't even hold it's own ground inthe GH.)

Life is short and gets shorter every day. You have your opinion and I have mine...same as others both pro and con. Time for me to move on as my Native Americans (North, Central and South) got a raw deal.
The peace must be made by the people of the middle east. Every party has a grievance.