Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Originally Posted by sabang

Kill or be killed: 11-year-olds forced to fight for Tamil Tigers
May 5, 2009

His colleague, Brigadier Shavendra Silva, the commander of the army's 58th division fighting on the front line, said "most of" the Tiger cadres captured since April 23 were aged between 11 and 18.
"There were many young girls aged 13 and 14. All of them had short hair," the brigadier said.
"They don't have the numbers of fighters they need so they conscript civilians forcefully."

.... Kala was taught to use an AK47 and handle explosives during a month of combat training. The trainees were shown motivational videos and were instructed to commit suicide rather than face capture.

... Kala sustained a serious shrapnel injury to her arm after a grenade exploded in her bunker. Two girls with Kala obeyed instructions and blew themselves up with grenades rather than be captured. But Kala decided to surrender. "I wanted to live," she said.

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Yeah remember the Hitler youth ? fight to the last boy but no one ever labelled them as Suicide bombers , like you are trying to stick a label on the Young kids who were fighting for the Tamil tigers .

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Suicide bombing is not just a Palastinian trait and I never said it was which you are falsely trying to say that I did, what I did say its an 100% Muslim one as the articles clearly denote

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Committing suicide rather than be captured has been going on for thousands of years by combatants and civilians too , so what the Tamils did was no big deal

Actually, the Tamil Tigers are a purely secular suicide terrorist group. They're not a group that most of the listeners will have heard too much about because even though they're actually the world leader in suicide terrorism from 1980 to 2003, carrying out more suicide attacks than Hamas or Islamic Jihad,

Tamil Tigers: Suicide Bombing Innovators : NPR

I can't be bothered looking up the age of the many Tamil suicide bombers piw- lets leave that with you and your muslim obsession. But I do know the Tamil suicide bomber who assassinated Gandhi was a 17 year old girl.

17year old eh, did she shout the name of her god before pulling the trigger?

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Suicide bombing is not just a Palastinian trait and I never said it was which you are falsely trying to say that I did, what I did say its an 100% Muslim one as the articles clearly denote

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Committing suicide rather than be captured has been going on for thousands of years by combatants and civilians too , so what the Tamils did was no big deal

Actually, the Tamil Tigers are a purely secular suicide terrorist group. They're not a group that most of the listeners will have heard too much about because even though they're actually the world leader in suicide terrorism from 1980 to 2003, carrying out more suicide attacks than Hamas or Islamic Jihad,

Tamil Tigers: Suicide Bombing Innovators : NPR

I can't be bothered looking up the age of the many Tamil suicide bombers piw- lets leave that with you and your muslim obsession. But I do know the Tamil suicide bomber who assassinated Gandhi was a 17 year old girl.

So the Tamils have had more Suicide bombers than the Muslims which is what I referred to , not Hamas not Islamic jihad just Muslims ,FFS stop trying to move the goal posts.

What you categorically stated (sic) "its [suicide bombing] an 100% Muslim one" is as wrong as your English grammar- and that's really saying something.

Not only is suicide bombing not a 100% Muslim trait, but in fact the most prolific suicide bombers from 1980-2003 were the Tamil Tigers. Man up and stop being a weasel piwi- you were emphatically Wrong. You generally are.

Originally Posted by sabang

What you categorically stated (sic) "its [suicide bombing] an 100% Muslim one" is as wrong as your English grammar- and that's really saying something.

Not only is suicide bombing not a 100% Muslim trait, but in fact the most prolific suicide bombers from 1980-2003 were the Tamil Tigers. Man up and stop being a weasel piwi- you were emphatically Wrong. You generally are.

Wrong AGAIN I said that the articles displayed were 100% for Child suicide bombers which is quite correct if you read the articles .

This is what you wrote weasel, unadulterated:-

Originally Posted by piwanoi
Suicide bombing is not just a Palastinian trait and I never said it was which you are falsely trying to say that I did, what I did say its an 100% Muslim one as the articles clearly denote

Grow a set. Compounding a lie with an even bigger lie just makes you look the demented old fool you are.

Originally Posted by sabang

Man up and stop being a weasel piwi- you were emphatically Wrong

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Wrong AGAIN I said that the articles displayed were 100% for Child suicide bombers which is quite correct if you read the articles

Yeah, who didn't see that one coming.

^^ Whooosh

and he changes the conversation again.

Here you go piwi



So next?

Mad Mullah from Manchester = piwaCILE

Israeli Rape of Golan Heights Is Also Netanyahu’s Settlement Plan for the West Bank, Jerusalem and Gaza

Internationally recognized as Syrian territory, the Golan Heights has been occupied and administered by Israel since 1967. It was captured during the 1967 Six-Day War.

On 19 June 1967, the Israeli cabinet voted to return the Golan to Syria in exchange for a peace agreement, although this was rejected after the Khartoum Resolution of September 1, 1967. In the aftermath of the 1973 Yom Kippur War, in which Syria tried but failed to recapture the Golan, Israel agreed to return about 5% of the territory to Syrian civilian control. This part was incorporated into a demilitarised zone that runs along the ceasefire line and extends eastward. This strip is under the military control of UNDOF.

Construction of Israeli settlements began in the remainder of the territory held by Israel, which was under military administration until Israel passed the Golan Heights Law extending Israeli law and administration throughout the territory in 1981. This move was condemned by the United Nations Security Council in UN Resolution 497, which said that “the Israeli decision to impose its laws, jurisdiction and administration in the occupied Syrian Golan Heights is null and void and without international legal effect.”Israel states it has a right to retain the Golan, citing the text of UN Resolution 242, which calls for “safe and recognised boundaries free from threats or acts of force”. However, the international community reject Israeli claims to title to the territory and regards it as sovereign Syrian territory.

‘The United States considers the Golan Heights to be Syrian territory held under Israeli occupation subject to negotiation and Israeli withdrawal. The United States considers the application of Israeli law to the Golan Heights to be a violation of international law, both the 4th Geneva Convention’s prohibition on the acquisition of territory by force and United Nations Security Council Resolution 242’

Discovery of Oil Deposits

Reportedly, the potential production of newly discovered oil deposits in the Golan may reach billions of barrels, while Israel consumes 270,000 barrels per day, it currently imports up to three quarters of its oil from the semi-autonomous Kurdish region in Iraq, the Financial Times reported in August.

The occupied region is, however, also a key source of water for an arid region dependent on the River Jordan along its length. Rainwater from the Golan’s catchment feeds into the Jordan River and currently provides a third of Israel’s water supply. Water to the Palestinian West Bank is restricted.

Originally Posted by sabang

This is what you wrote weasel, unadulterated:-

Originally Posted by piwanoi
Suicide bombing is not just a Palastinian trait and I never said it was which you are falsely trying to say that I did, what I did say its an 100% Muslim one as the articles clearly denote

Grow a set. Compounding a lie with an even bigger lie just makes you look the demented old fool you are.

Yeah as the articles clearly denote , did the articles mention the Tamils ? a fucking resounding NO , show me an article that clearly says as it does in the articles I produced that the Tamils used Children young as 10 as Suicide bombers on a regular basis , and what's more "groom" them in their religious schools .try it your self just type in "Child suicide bombers" and see is the Tamils come up .

Now, if we can leave piwis stupidity to one side, an interesting question is why Bibi and his criminal friends do not actually legally annex the Golan Heights, and indeed, the rest of the illegally occupied territories?

The main sticking point for them is that as soon as they do annex them, they then have to make everyone living there a full blown citizen of the state of israel, with all rights accorded to Jews, accorded to them as well. This is something the zionists can never do.

It is the dichotomy of zionism in that their declared aims do not compliment each other.

1 - ever expanding land mass for the state of israel (hence all the land grabs and illegal occupation
2 - A Jewish majority ensuring jewish (well, ashkaNAZI) rule.

Problem they face is that grabbing all the land, also grabs non Jewish natives of that land. The more they grab, the more they dilute down the ratio of Jews to Non Jews. Indeed, if they annexed GH and the illegally occupied territories, the psychotic zionists would be voted out in the next election and most likely in prison with ALL CHANGE.

So they can not annex, and international law stops them forcefully kicking people out. So what they do is brutalize the inhabitants, subject them to constant terror and degradation of life sustaining infrastructure (water, power, housing, school, jobs, anything really) hoping that they will all leave, thus allowing the zioinsts to continue their plans.

So Bibi will never release GH, and he will also never annex the area and people either. He will just continue with his brutal terror campaign against them.

They call this "transfer" by the way - a very Orwellian statement. Sound so harmless, the "transfer policy towards non jews". Hitler had a transfer policy towards Jews once as well.

I wonder how long piwi is going to last in SC this time around. Silly old fool- Anyone can tell directly from the Post you wrote, which I quoted, that you were wrong. So a silly old fool and also a bare faced liar- nice combination. Now stop polluting this Golan Heights thread with your off topic nonsense, and pathetic attempts to weasel yourself out of a Lie.

^ now now, piwi, this is Speakers Corner. This is no place for your outbursts. You were proven to be wrong and should be used to it by now, so apologise and accept defeat.


U.S. Responds to Netanyahu: Golan Heights Are Not Part of Israel - Israel News - Haaretz

"It's a basic principle of international law and the UN charter that no state can claim the right to annex another state's territory just like that," Martin Schaefer, spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry, said Monday.

Bibi claims he has annexed it, thus does not have to return it, as the merkins and Krouts point out, annexation is a legal structure, and not just the words of a murderous windbag like BIBI. He can not claim GH is Annexed until he shows that he has followed to the letter, including handing out israeli passports to all people in GH, something he can not and never will do.

So just more lies from BIBI.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Now, if we can leave piwis stupidity to one side, an interesting question is why Bibi and his criminal friends do not actually legally annex the Golan Heights, and indeed, the rest of the illegally occupied territories?.

Dodging the issue again.

Israel's got the Golan Heights Law instead.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

"It's a basic principle of international law and the UN charter that no state can claim the right to annex another state's territory just like that," Martin Schaefer, spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry, said Monday.

Bibi claims he has annexed it, thus does not have to return it, as the merkins and Krouts point out, annexation is a legal structure

Any difference between Israel annexing the Golan and Jordan's condemned invasion, occupation and annexation of the West Bank in 1950?

Poor little Israel.
Always the victim.


Terribly misunderstood.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

"It's a basic principle of international law and the UN charter that no state can claim the right to annex another state's territory just like that," Martin Schaefer, spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry, said Monday.

Bibi claims he has annexed it, thus does not have to return it, as the merkins and Krouts point out, annexation is a legal structure

Any difference between Israel annexing the Golan and Jordan's condemned invasion, occupation and annexation of the West Bank in 1950?

Yeah, the Jordanians were Muslims so that does,nt count .

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

"It's a basic principle of international law and the UN charter that no state can claim the right to annex another state's territory just like that," Martin Schaefer, spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry, said Monday.

Bibi claims he has annexed it, thus does not have to return it, as the merkins and Krouts point out, annexation is a legal structure

Any difference between Israel annexing the Golan and Jordan's condemned invasion, occupation and annexation of the West Bank in 1950?

israel has not Annexed the Golan and have never claimed they have due to the legal implications of doing so. When Jordan did, the people in the West Bank were given the same rights as Jordanians, which wasn't much anyway, but they were legally recognized as being equal within the Jordanian system.

That is the difference.

So Psue...the West Bankers are Jordanian ?

No because as soon as the annexation ended, they reverted back to being Palestinian, awaiting israel to Annex them legally, which they will never do, because that would mean giving them a vote, and ceasing all of their barbaric apartheid activities and pulling down the walls.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

So Psue...the West Bankers are Jordanian ?

Definitely not- but quite a few Jordanians are ethnically Palestinian.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

No because as soon as the annexation ended, they reverted back to being Palestinian, awaiting israel to Annex them legally, which they will never do, because that would mean giving them a vote, and ceasing all of their barbaric apartheid activities and pulling down the walls.

So they were Jordanian prior to the 1967 conflict ?

In the same way that Palestinians are not, and never will be israeli, they were not jordanian.

This is just the same old tired lame revisionist israel lobby bullshit to say otherwise.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Originally Posted by pseudolus

No because as soon as the annexation ended, they reverted back to being Palestinian, awaiting israel to Annex them legally, which they will never do, because that would mean giving them a vote, and ceasing all of their barbaric apartheid activities and pulling down the walls.

So they were Jordanian prior to the 1967 conflict ?

Thats what psuedo claimed innit