Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

The link I gave did not infact refer to the UNO partition of Palestine

This one does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...osed_Partition

Once again you post stuff you do not understand and copy from a page you have either not read fully or did not understand.

Is that so? Since you know so much, what was the UNO demarcation of Palestine?

To save you some time.

From the first section of that wiki page:

"The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a proposal... "

"The partition plan was not implemented."

Originally Posted by pseudolus

This was only a UN proposal though, and not an actual decision.

Bloody hard work getting things through to these fools, heh?

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

One in three refugees world wide is Palestinian. There are about 6.5 million Palestinian refugees worldwide. More than 3.8 million Palestinian refugees and their descendents displaced in 1948 are registered for humanitarian assistance with the United Nations.

Not so, it's 1 in 4.

As of 2015, there were about 5,149,742 million Palestinian refugees to 15.1 million others.(UNHCR figures)

During 1946 –1948, aprox. 711,000 refugees left Israel
Descendants of those original refugees increased the figure to aprox. 4,950,000 by 2012, now 5.1 million aprox.

Probably true. The amount of Palistinian refugees has gone up, but due to israelis ISIS missions, so has the total amount of other refugees as well, thus dropping the ratio

Well done for pointing that out. just out of interest, anyone, is this the first piece of accurate this hasbara addict has posted on this thread? Pretty sure it is.

Originally Posted by Neverna

"The partition plan was not implemented."

It was, in fact, check the map, and your sources.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

"The partition plan was not implemented."

It was, in fact, check the map, and your sources.

No it wasn't.

Now.... seriously.....really? going to keep sailing this tack? You're heading into squalls and take this as a beacon of hope, a helping hand of a light house to keep you from crashing and sinking to the bottom of the blood filled zionist scum sea of lies

From the same link I gave before;

Final vote[edit]
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions and 1 absent, in favour of the modified Partition Plan.

Originally Posted by ENT

From the same link I gave before;

Final vote[edit]
On 29 November 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions and 1 absent, in favour of the modified Partition Plan.

Indeed.... read on then, dingbat. Voted for does not mean implemented. Me and You could vote for Bush being tried for 9/11, but it doesn't mean it will be implemented.

How powerfull are the Jews.........

If the American economy fell apart..........sodom and gamorahh...........these sand bagger white scum lost the support from their American protectors using tax payers money..............how self rightous can they be with their arrogance when the support stops...........I am waiting with baited breath.

So what?
The partition plan was all that was on offer finally when the British mandate ended in May 1948, as Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq took advantage of the British withdrawal from Palestine to attack Israel.

The partition plan was a joke, the land offered to the Jews was virtually indefensible, so when the Arabs attacked, what else could be done but to fight and defend themselves as the British weren't going to help the Jews.

Declaring independence and fighting for it was the only option.

Previously, Arab leaders had already said that words weren't going to help, only war would resolve the conflict.

So war it was, the Jews won, the Arabs lost. If it had been the other way round, there wouldn't have bene a Jew left alive in Palestine.

So, ENT, you now, finally, agree with me that your claim that...

Originally Posted by ENT

The remaining 23% of British mandate Palestine was then further divided by the UN (1947) to create the State of Israel

..is not true.

Nope, I don't.

The UNO proposed 12.42% of the total land area of the British Mandate for Palestine was all that was on offer for the Jews in 1947, whether it was taken up or not.

In the end, Israel got the originally proposed deal, more or less, 23% of the original mandated territory, which was the land west of the River Jordan, while the land east of the Jordan ended up in Arab hands.

The British do have a way of doing things.
So it goes.

No they didn't. They got 56% . You also forget that from 1947 - 48, the zionist scum with their guns and bombs from the US, France and UK started trying to exterminate all Palestinians from the area, which by and large was the greatest motivation for the arab league to step in and try and stop it.

Anything else you would like to be wrong about today, Ent? And what is it - tag teaming with piwi? Thought you had more class than that.

They got 56% of what pseudo?

Originally Posted by ENT

Nope, I don't.

The State of Israel was not created in 1947.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

What is confusing Ent with his figures and percentages, is that he is relying on Zionist propaganda material for this. Although the split of land he is was initially touted at 93% to the arabs, that was never accepted by the zionist murderers. So what was really offered was 56% of the mandated land to create a new state for Germanic European jews with no semite blood or DNA in them (and therefore no right to ever go to that land in the first place) and the rest to the indigenous arab population who have lived there for thousands of years, on their land, doing very nicely thankyou until the zionist scum started to ethnically cleanse them from their land. This was only a UN proposal though, and not an actual decision.

It was a very generous offer to let the indigenous people of the land keep a minority of their land, offering shelter to a bunch of zionists who were basically led financially by the same people who funded Hitlers war machine in the early days, which ultimately created the false need for a load of jews of European ancestry (not semite) to move thousands of miles away, to steel another peoples land and subject them to 60 years of massacres, humiliation, and murder. Clearly the countries that voted for this would be in the region and have intimate knowledge of the situation there, and were not simply being pushed around by the zionist bully boys?

Voted for
Bolivia Brazil Costa Rica Dominican Republic Ecuador Haiti Nicaragua Panama Paraguay Peru Uruguay Venezuela Belgium Denmark France Iceland Luxembourg Netherlands Norway Sweden Byelorussian SSRCzechoslovakiaPolandUkrainian SSRSoviet Union Liberia South Africa Australia New Zealand Philippines Canada United States


Oh - no middle eastern countries then?

Afghanistan India Iran Iraq Lebanon Pakistan Saudi Arabia Syria Yemen Greece Turkey Egypt Cuba

they voted against of course. They knew what was happening.

Is that not in JewishLibrary or what ever US based pro israel zionist lying wank mag you read? Nothing was actually agreed because before it could be agreed, the jewish terrorist insurgents starting attacking the indiginous population (same tactic israel are using with ISIS in Syria - externals attacking the people of a country; they never change). Then the Arab league stepped in, in what do you call it again? Israel war of independence? 5555555. The british had already washed their hands of it, having been told by the zionists to leave it to them (they love murder and terror so wanted a free hand to kill as many people as possible), and the chips rested where they lay with a large majority of the land being in the hands of the foreign interlopers, the ISIS of their day, the zionist extremist terror groups, who had suddenly built a navy, airforce and huge army with western money and supplies.

But of course.... the non semite zionists want it all, and they will get it.

Knock yourself out ENT - I already wrote it once.

It's very simple- if Israel wants to hang on to occupied Palestine, ie incorporate or assimilate it, it will have to grant the occupied Palestinians citizenship of the combined state. What sort of fantasyland are some people living in, thinking some 5,000,000 Pali's are just gonna up and walk out of their homeland because a bunch of foreigners want it? I mean, yeah right- I wouldn't mind Hawaii personally, so go on then- move out.

If however Israel wishes to remain a 'Jewish state' (which it isn't anyway, it is just a Jewish majority state), then it needs to withdraw from Palestine. Agreements are already in place which would actually mean most of the illegal settler population in the larger settlement blocs would not need to relocate anyway.

My suggestion- have a bloody Referendum on the matter, let the people decide.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Nope, I don't.

The State of Israel was not created in 1947.

Big deal.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Nope, I don't.

The State of Israel was not created in 1947.

Big deal.

Your claim has been blown out of the water, ENT. Nothing of it remains.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Although the split of land he is was initially touted at 93% to the arabs, that was never accepted by the zionist murderers. So what was really offered was 56% of the mandated land to create a new state for Germanic European jews

Knock yourself out ENT - I already wrote it once.

And now you've just repeated your bullsh*t.

Again, 56% of what, and 93%, again of what?

Try and make sense this time.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Nope, I don't.

The State of Israel was not created in 1947.

Big deal.

Your claim has been blown out of the water, ENT. Nothing of it remains.

You think.

^ Yep.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Although the split of land he is was initially touted at 93% to the arabs, that was never accepted by the zionist murderers. So what was really offered was 56% of the mandated land to create a new state for Germanic European jews

Knock yourself out ENT - I already wrote it once.

And now you've just repeated your bullsh*t.

Again, 56% of what, and 93%, again of what?

Try and make sense this time.

Shall we try this with pictures?



A year of murdering and ethnically cleansing Palestinians from their landin, a veritable holocaust, the zionist scum got about 56% of Palestine as per the picture. View it left to right. To help you with this, look at your keyboard, find the Q, that is on the Left side. The P is on the right side.

Now - GOT. No one gave it to them. If I went into your house and got 56% of the bread in your larder, it does not mean you had a vote giving it me. It does not mean that you gave it to me. It does not mean that your friends and neighbours put together a bread giving plan, voted on it, and gifted it to me. No, it means I waltzed in, stole your bread, and now I have got it. Comprende, my special little lad?

The "Palestine" many refer to is limited to approximately 23% of the original mandated Palestine, after 77% of Palestine was ceded to the rule of the Sheriff of Mecca, so creating the new state of Transjordan. The original territory of Mandated Palestine was described by the League of Nations as;

" The British Mandate for Palestine, shortly Mandate for Palestine, or the Palestine Mandate was a League of Nations mandate for the territory that had formerly constituted the Ottoman Empire sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern part of the Vilayet of Syria,[1] the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the Armistice of Mudros'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United... ed_Partition



Original Palestine mandate territory 1920.



Remaining Palestine mandate territory 1922, after Britain ceded all to the east of the Jordan River to the Sheriff of Mecca, so creating the new state of Transjordan.




In fact;

“Palestine and Jordan are one…” said King Abdullah of Jordan in 1948.

“Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,” Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly, February 2, 1970.

“..Jordanians and Palestinians are considered by the PLO as one people,” said Farouk Kaddoumi, then head of the PLO Political Department. ( Newsweek, March 14, 1977.)

“The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.” said Abdul Hamid Sharif, (Prime Minister of Jordan) in 1980.

“The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan” said King Hussein of Jordan in 1981.

Originally Posted by ENT

The "Palestine" many refer to is limited to approximately 23% of the original mandated Palestine, after 77% of Palestine was ceded to the rule of the Sheriff of Mecca, so creating the new state of Transjordan. The original territory of Mandated Palestine was described by the League of Nations as;

" The British Mandate for Palestine, shortly Mandate for Palestine, or the Palestine Mandate was a League of Nations mandate for the territory that had formerly constituted the Ottoman Empire sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern part of the Vilayet of Syria,[1] the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the Armistice of Mudros'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United... ed_Partition



Original Palestine mandate territory 1920.



Remaining Palestine mandate territory 1922, after Britain ceded all to the east of the Jordan River to the Sheriff of Mecca, so creating the new state of Transjordan.




In fact;

“Palestine and Jordan are one…” said King Abdullah of Jordan in 1948.

“Palestine is Jordan and Jordan is Palestine; there is only one land, with one history and one and the same fate,” Prince Hassan of the Jordanian National Assembly, February 2, 1970.

“..Jordanians and Palestinians are considered by the PLO as one people,” said Farouk Kaddoumi, then head of the PLO Political Department. ( Newsweek, March 14, 1977.)

“The Palestinians and Jordanians do not belong to different nationalities. They hold the same Jordanian passports, are Arabs and have the same Jordanian culture.” said Abdul Hamid Sharif, (Prime Minister of Jordan) in 1980.

“The truth is that Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan” said King Hussein of Jordan in 1981.

What would King Hussein or any other name you mention know when faced with the TD Israeli hating ME experts ?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

What would King Hussein or any other name you mention know when faced with the TD Israeli hating ME experts ?

They got a bit hysterical there, eh?
Must be the moon.