Thread: The U.K and the E.U - In or out?

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Spain would be likely to veto an independent Scotland joining the EU amid fears it could encourage Catalonia to seek its own independence.
All new member states are also obligated to join the ailing euro single currency

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Interesting that newbies have to join the euro; the original members were supposed to pass strict entry requirements .

Instead of acting like drama queens why doesn't Scotland make some free trade deals around the world ready for the exit

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Are you a fucking retard ignoramus who escaped from a hospital for mental pygmies?

Anyone born on the island of Ireland, irrespective of which side of the border, is entitled to Irish citizenship, you boneheaded dumb fuckwit moron.

The emphasis was on removing an unnecessary border, dipshit.

You dozy cretin, if there are two differing tax regimes governing consumption then it is fucking obvious to anyone with a fucking single brain cell that one or other will be severely disadvantaged if there in unfettered access to both markets.

What the fuck is it with the lower classes these days, they can't seem to comprehend even the most basic of facts.

Spelling it out, if the North has a VAT regime of 12% and the South 17.5%, then just where the fuck do you think everyone will go fucking shopping? The Southern traders will be fucked, jobs will be lost and tax revenues will fall.

Moron.

SA, you seem most agitated of late. even more so than usual. your finances must have taken a real haircut.

the pound has not sunk as far as was expected, the stock market has recovered, after the initial panic some pragmatism seems to be governing the comments coming out of both sides now, even the french have said that freedom of movement is up for negotiation. the sky is a lot brighter than it was last friday morning.

the sweaties and the micks will be offered some simple sweeteners to overcome their objections and the welsh will continue to grow their sideburns and get fat just as they have always done.

there is a possibility that this might, in a couple of years, be seen as a good result for the UK, the EU will have to implement reforms to placate its masses and it could be the UK that comes out of this covered in roses.

boris might even make a good pm.

surely you must agree ??

No, Tax, I see this entire ghastly madness as no more than a victory for the small-minded, racist English oik so inept and lazy that he couldn't compete with East Europeans and this is his revenge.
The attacks on foreigners, legitimised by the vote, is no more than an expression of the lumpen end of English society occupying the political gutter which now transpires to be the majority of the electorate.

It is fundamental.

England is now officially a shit country full of cvunts.

Fuck 'em.

The attacks on foreigners, legitimised by the vote, is no more than an expression of the lumpen end of English society occupying the political gutter which now transpires to be the majority of the electorate.

the attacks on foreigners are not in any way legitimised by the vote.

the attacks on foreigners are because of the ignorance of the lumpen shite that has been weaned on the teat of an unbelievably generous and out of control welfare state for all their lives and have a sense of entitlement pushed down their throats by the fucking socialist and union scum that have so much power and influence on the opinion of the lower end in the uk.

england is not fucked, and it is not a country full of nazi cunts because of a dozen or so relatively minor incidents.

i was for remain, but after my initial horror at the result, i do feel that once again the uk has stood up against domination and control by a german influenced europe.

germany, france, italy and the eastern european countries all have a far bigger problem with right wing racism than the uk does. just talk to any european ( with half a brain) about what is happening on the mainland now, thanks in the main to merkel and the uncontrolled movement of not only europeans on the continent.

britains act of brexit may eventually be seen as the one thing that brought some sensibility to the question of immigration in europe and if as i hope, it in some way changes policy in europe, can prevent even worse problems developing for future generations of europeans.

brexit is not all bad if managed sensibly, and if the eu will open their eyes to the problems they are building up for themselves and heed the mood of the people to effect some moderation to the stubborn blinkered stance they have on almost everything.

free movement of labour is one thing, but free movement of people will only cause problems, whatever the utopian dwelling policy makers think.

If you think for one moment that the economic imperative manifested by the migration of folk between 85% of the world which hasn't a pot to piss in and the 15% that have it all can be defeated by a political exhortation then you are fucking deluded.

In any case, the demographics are such that in 30 years if we don't have migrants then there will be no one to pour food into the mouths of senile white fuckers gibbering away in their dementia wards.

Tax, the English are cvunts and England is now a fucking toilet full of racist turds.

Officially.

Finally, in the eyes of the lumpen white trash, the vote does legitimise them - after all, they won.

In any case, the demographics are such that in 30 years if we don't have migrants then there will be no one to pour food into the mouths of senile white fuckers gibbering away in their dementia wards.

i think i addressed that valid concern.

free movement of labour is one thing, but free movement of people will only cause problems,

Originally Posted by taxexile

SA, you seem most agitated of late. even more so than usual. your finances must have taken a real haircut.

He's done his bollocks, I bet he bought loads of Sterling expecting a rise after a Remain win.

In case you haven't noticed, Europe hasn't disintegrated, Greece still functions, commerce continues unbounded within the continent and the English are alone.

Freedom of movement between Europeans was the finest thing achieved in modern political history and the small minded, parochial, Little Englander has fucked himself.

Three million jobs in the UK are taken by hard working decent folk from the EU who prefer industry to feckless, benefit addiction. What the fuck do you think will happen when the Tory nazis rip up Directive 2004/38/EU and try to impose an immigration control in replacement? Just how the fuck do you actually see the control of 25 million EU visitors who annually come to Britain for their jollies?

Like all the petty little fascist racist Farage troopers, none of you have the faintest idea how anything will actually work.

You better build bigger airports, recruit thousands more border staff and close that fucking tunnel.

The thing is, Boris knows this is fucking unworkable but as long as he gets to shit in the toilet Cameron dumped in in 10 Downing St. he doesn't give a flying fuck.

oh FFS, we all know that you are not going to have the balls to exit the EU, and no idiot is going to take responsibility for invoking article 50

you will still be whinning about the EU next year, as a full time member

Three million jobs in the UK are taken by hard working decent folk from the EU who prefer industry to feckless, benefit addiction. What the fuck do you think will happen when the Tory nazis rip up Directive 2004/38/EU and try to impose an immigration control in replacement? Just how the fuck do you actually see the control of 25 million EU visitors who annually come to Britain for their jollies?

as i said, free movement of labour as opposed to free movement of people.

You

you

have you suddenly changed your nationality?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You dozy cretin, if there are two differing tax regimes governing consumption then it is fucking obvious to anyone with a fucking single brain cell that one or other will be severely disadvantaged if there in unfettered access to both markets.

What the fuck is it with the lower classes these days, they can't seem to comprehend even the most basic of facts.

Spelling it out, if the North has a VAT regime of 12% and the South 17.5%, then just where the fuck do you think everyone will go fucking shopping? The Southern traders will be fucked, jobs will be lost and tax revenues will fall.

Moron.

You're the moron.

In an united Ireland there'd be only one regime. Idiot.

Butterfly, one can never, ever underestimate the degree of stupidity among the English lower end, nor the lust for power by those seeking to manipulate it.

Nazism always was strong in the English, Hitler had a ready made Establishment all set to govern after a successful invasion led by King Edward and his American Queen bitch in concert with Herr Mosley and his Blackshirts.

The Black Book listing the hundreds of leading English nazi stooges has never been released and remains under firm lock and key in the Public Records Office for the next 100 years at least.

Farage is Mosley's bastard son but the 17 million who voted for him are probably a fair reflection of the "aryan spirit" that still flows through the veins of the English lumpen dross.

" Ja, Ja, its der fault of der Juden ! "

Originally Posted by taxexile

Three million jobs in the UK are taken by hard working decent folk from the EU who prefer industry to feckless, benefit addiction. What the fuck do you think will happen when the Tory nazis rip up Directive 2004/38/EU and try to impose an immigration control in replacement? Just how the fuck do you actually see the control of 25 million EU visitors who annually come to Britain for their jollies?

as i said, free movement of labour as opposed to free movement of people.

You

you

have you suddenly changed your nationality?

And just how do you propose to enforce it?

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You dozy cretin, if there are two differing tax regimes governing consumption then it is fucking obvious to anyone with a fucking single brain cell that one or other will be severely disadvantaged if there in unfettered access to both markets.

What the fuck is it with the lower classes these days, they can't seem to comprehend even the most basic of facts.

Spelling it out, if the North has a VAT regime of 12% and the South 17.5%, then just where the fuck do you think everyone will go fucking shopping? The Southern traders will be fucked, jobs will be lost and tax revenues will fall.

Moron.

You're the moron.

In an united Ireland there'd be only one regime. Idiot.

Clearly, your grasp of Irish politics is as tenuous as your grip on reality.

Quite simply, you are without any significance other than as a small sack of fertiliser.

When pikies are agreeing with belgian jizzgobblers, you know you've done the right thing leaving them to their economic and political version of wanking each other off in a burning toilet.

^^ Since 1949 it has been always possible for Irish unity by voluntary consent of a majority in Northern Ireland.

In the 1920s, there were c.64% Protestants to 25% Catholics and around 10% of no religion in Northern Ireland.

Now the Catholic population (2011 census) shows that the under 40 yo population is 41.5% Catholic and 37.8% Protestant, the rest no religion or other.

Overall, the Catholic/ Protestant population currently sits at c. 40.8% Catholics to 41.6% Protestants.
The Catholic population has almost doubled, while the Protestant one has decreased by a third since the 1920s.

It's not too difficult to see the possible outcome of a united Ireland vote taken in the not too distant future if the Catholic population increases at the rate it has so far, with the Protestant population declining further.

The English economy in the future will be based on the laissez faire, American model unfettered by any notion of guaranteed workers' rights or the social contract legacy developed over 40 years membership of the EU. Fuck that minimum wage malarkey or assured living wage shite.

The future is going to be grim for the majority and they had better get used to the notion that the NHS will no longer be available in the current form. Quite simply, with £120 billions annual expenditure there is far too much money to be made.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The English economy in the future will be based on the laissez faire, American model unfettered by any notion of guaranteed workers' rights or the social contract legacy developed over 40 years membership of the EU. Fuck that minimum wage malarkey or assured living wage shite.

The future is going to be grim for the majority and they had better get used to the notion that the NHS will no longer be available in the current form. Quite simply, with £120 billions annual expenditure there is far too much money to be made.

That's OK mate you won't be entitled to it anyway being a Eurotrash pikey.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

English

Could be all that's left when all is said and done. A "sovereign" England surrounded by three new EU member nations. No reason Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales shouldn't seek sovereignty as well.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

100% as i said and wholly predictable; frankly, anybody suggesting otherwise must've had a screw loose.

Mariano Rajoy told a news conference following the European Council meeting in Brussels that the Scottish Government “does not have the competence” to negotiate with the European Union. He concluded: “If the United Kingdom leaves... Scotland leaves too.”

He was echoed by Mr Hollande, the French President, who insisted the EU will make no advance deal with Scotland. He said: "The negotiations will be conducted with the United Kingdom, not with a part of the United Kingdom.”

During a chastening visit to Brussels yesterday for Ms Sturgeon, Jean-Claude Juncker, the European Commission president, also made clear that neither he nor European Council president Donald Tusk would “interfere in the British process” by negotiating with Scotland.
Nicola Sturgeon's hopes of keeping Scotland in EU hit by Francois Hollande and Spanish PM Rajoy

I still think it's an excellent opportunity for a united Ireland within the EU once Britain has fully Brexited.

Swap the loyalists and the Scottish pikies and you'd have a United Kingdom and the all the pikies with their hands out to Brussels.

^^ Agreed.