The U.K and the E.U - In or out?

**Ronin** · 26-06-2016, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^

The 2008 financial crisis cost the U.S. economy more than $22 trillion, a study by the Government Accountability Office published Thursday said.
Financial Crisis Cost Tops $22 Trillion, GAO Says

Which raises the question, how much did - the bank bailouts actually cost us? And how much are they still costing us?
Fortunately, the National Audit Office has looked into this - with a report out in July this year. It shows the level of financial support given by the government to the Banks since 2009. The report tries to make an assessment of how much they still owe us now, after repayments, fees and interest. The headline figure is £456.33bn, down from £612.58bn in March 2010. The peak was a mighty £1.162 trillion. The total outstanding support is 31% of March's GDP.
Bank reforms: how much did we bail them out and how much do they still owe? | News | theguardian.com

That's not the point, just how thick are you? What you have posted here is irrelevant to the coming situation. Carry on living in your own little world, you clearly understand nothing.

**Ronin** · 26-06-2016, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by buriramboy

LMAO at investment banks leaving London. The UK can now create an environment even more attractive for investment unshackled and unburdened by EU rules and regulations, I see a great future for the UK in a few years down the road, we've got out first before the whole doomed project comes crashing down.

Yet again and as always not only have you failed to understand the situation you have ever posted mere tripe; the reason the investment banks will leave the UK is because they cannot function properly outside the EU which invalidates your pathetic view.

**buriramboy** · 26-06-2016, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ronin

Originally Posted by buriramboy

LMAO at investment banks leaving London. The UK can now create an environment even more attractive for investment unshackled and unburdened by EU rules and regulations, I see a great future for the UK in a few years down the road, we've got out first before the whole doomed project comes crashing down.

Yet again and as always not only have you failed to understand the situation you have ever posted mere tripe; the reason the investment banks will leave the UK is because they cannot function properly outside the EU which invalidates your pathetic view.

You really are thick, but coming from the loony left of the political spectrum I shouldn't really expect anything else. Do keep me updated as and when the investment banks leave London.

London is the financial crime capital of the world and leaving the EU won't change that, in fact if anything with more lax laws in the future it will attract more institutions to set up shop.

Go and have a cry and sign the losers petition like all the others on the loony left who hate democracy when they don't get the result they want.

**harrybarracuda** · 26-06-2016, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ronin

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ indeed, the economists have done so well in recent decades...

As long as folks keep buying the BS from the banks and their paid for politicians then social development will always struggle due to so much money being skimmed off by the banks and financial institutions.

Britain's banking institutions are at the very heart of global banking corruption, and the City of London offers the base for their corrupt dealings; they won't be going anywhere...

Another dumb post from somebody who cannot see past the end of their nose; OK traders make massive profits, we all know about that but like it or not they generate billions of pounds worth of business. When the investment banks leave, which they will the economy will stagnate. That means no new jobs and as for what remains in respect of Europe there will be import tariffs which mean more job losses as companies look to shed their losses.

Talking of people who cannot see past the end of their noses: We run a trade deficit with the EU, so do you really think those countries in the EU with whom we wish to create trade agreements are going to cut off their noses to spite their faces?

**Bettyboo** · 26-06-2016, 07:02 PM

RED The U.K and the E.U -... 26-06-2016 06:48 PM Ronin You are such a dumb [at][at][at][at]!

Oh dear...

You are aware, presumably, that corrupt money from all over the globe comes to London and our offshore hideaways. Presumably, you're also aware of the German interest/ownership of the LSE. London has been the centre of crony capitalism and globalization for hundreds of years.

The City of London is outside of rules & regulations, it's probably the most corrupt entity on the planet.

It's the dark heart of Britain, the place where democracy goes to die, immensely powerful, equally unaccountable. But I doubt that one in 10 British people has any idea of what the Corporation of the City of London is and how it works.

...

What is this thing? Ostensibly it's the equivalent of a local council, responsible for a small area of London known as the Square Mile. But, as its website boasts, "among local authorities the City of London is unique". You bet it is. There are 25 electoral wards in the Square Mile. In four of them, the 9,000 people who live within its boundaries are permitted to vote. In the remaining 21, the votes are controlled by corporations, mostly banks and other financial companies. The bigger the business, the bigger the vote: a company with 10 workers gets two votes, the biggest employers, 79. It's not the workers who decide how the votes are cast, but the bosses, who "appoint" the voters. Plutocracy, pure and simple.

...

As Nicholas Shaxson explains in his fascinating book Treasure Islands, the Corporation exists outside many of the laws and democratic controls which govern the rest of the United Kingdom. The City of London is the only part of Britain over which parliament has no authority. In one respect at least the Corporation acts as the superior body: it imposes on the House of Commons a figure called the remembrancer: an official lobbyist who sits behind the Speaker's chair and ensures that, whatever our elected representatives might think, the City's rights and privileges are protected. The mayor of London's mandate stops at the boundaries of the Square Mile. There are, as if in a novel by China Miéville, two cities, one of which must unsee the other.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-city-medieval

**Ronin** · 26-06-2016, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Ronin

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ indeed, the economists have done so well in recent decades...

As long as folks keep buying the BS from the banks and their paid for politicians then social development will always struggle due to so much money being skimmed off by the banks and financial institutions.

Britain's banking institutions are at the very heart of global banking corruption, and the City of London offers the base for their corrupt dealings; they won't be going anywhere...

Another dumb post from somebody who cannot see past the end of their nose; OK traders make massive profits, we all know about that but like it or not they generate billions of pounds worth of business. When the investment banks leave, which they will the economy will stagnate. That means no new jobs and as for what remains in respect of Europe there will be import tariffs which mean more job losses as companies look to shed their losses.

Talking of people who cannot see past the end of their noses: We run a trade deficit with the EU, so do you really think those countries in the EU with whom we wish to create trade agreements are going to cut off their noses to spite their faces?

That isn't the point....

**Seekingasylum** · 26-06-2016, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ indeed, the economists have done so well in recent decades...

As long as folks keep buying the BS from the banks and their paid for politicians then social development will always struggle due to so much money being skimmed off by the banks and financial institutions.

Britain's banking institutions are at the very heart of global banking corruption, and the City of London offers the base for their corrupt dealings; they won't be going anywhere...

You truly are an adolescent, aren't you?

**Troy** · 26-06-2016, 07:16 PM

Banks begin moving some operations out of Britain

Banks have already begun to take action to shift operations out of the UK, with the governor of France’s central bank warning on Saturday that Britain’s financial services groups were at risk of losing their right to operate across the EU.
Investment banks have reacted immediately to Britain’s referendum result, with some of the City’s largest institutions approaching regulators to secure licences and lining up executives to relocate.

etc...

Banks begin moving some operations out of Britain - FT.com

They won't be going anywhere?

**buriramboy** · 26-06-2016, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ronin

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Ronin

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ indeed, the economists have done so well in recent decades...

As long as folks keep buying the BS from the banks and their paid for politicians then social development will always struggle due to so much money being skimmed off by the banks and financial institutions.

Britain's banking institutions are at the very heart of global banking corruption, and the City of London offers the base for their corrupt dealings; they won't be going anywhere...

Another dumb post from somebody who cannot see past the end of their nose; OK traders make massive profits, we all know about that but like it or not they generate billions of pounds worth of business. When the investment banks leave, which they will the economy will stagnate. That means no new jobs and as for what remains in respect of Europe there will be import tariffs which mean more job losses as companies look to shed their losses.

Talking of people who cannot see past the end of their noses: We run a trade deficit with the EU, so do you really think those countries in the EU with whom we wish to create trade agreements are going to cut off their noses to spite their faces?

That isn't the point....

As always it's you who doesn't have a point, just coming out with tosh that the investment banks will leave London.

The EU project has failed the majority of its citizens and if given the chance to vote other countries will be following Britains lead for a brighter future.

**Seekingasylum** · 26-06-2016, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by buriramboy

LMAO at investment banks leaving London. The UK can now create an environment even more attractive for investment unshackled and unburdened by EU rules and regulations, I see a great future for the UK in a few years down the road, we've got out first before the whole doomed project comes crashing down.

You really do not understand, do you?

As we speak now, the financial institutions are working out how they are going to work in the event Britain loses its passport to trade within the EU. Its worth about £25-30 billions annually and the word is that the EU are going to fuck Boris and his crew over this ASAP.

I have relatives who have connections to PWC etc and they are worried, seriously worried.

It's a fucking disaster and the £ will be screwed. Hope you bought your dollars and euros, you dumb fuckwit.

**buriramboy** · 26-06-2016, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Originally Posted by buriramboy

LMAO at investment banks leaving London. The UK can now create an environment even more attractive for investment unshackled and unburdened by EU rules and regulations, I see a great future for the UK in a few years down the road, we've got out first before the whole doomed project comes crashing down.

You really do not understand, do you?

As we speak now, the financial institutions are working out how they are going to work in the event Britain loses its passport to trade within the EU. Its worth about £25-30 billions annually and the word is that the EU are going to fuck Boris and his crew over this ASAP.

I have relatives who have connections to PWC etc and they are worried, seriously worried.

It's a fucking disaster and the £ will be screwed. Hope you bought your dollars and euros, you dumb fuckwit.

It's you who doesn't understand, just eagerly swallowing all the doom and gloom from project fear. Britain isn't going to stop trading with anyone and when we are finally free of the EU in another 2 years we can negotiate our own trade deals with the rest of the world that suit our interests. The £ will not be screwed, it will eventually be a lot stronger than it is today when we leave and our economy booms due to being able to make Britain a more attractive place to invest.

Anyway i'm sure your state pension will still stretch enough to allow you to sample the wares of Pattayas finest a few times a week.

**can123** · 26-06-2016, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I have relatives who have connections to PWC etc and they are worried, seriously worried.

The chances are they share many of your genes so it is easy to see the reason for them being thick as well.

**Bettyboo** · 26-06-2016, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Troy

Banks begin moving some operations out of Britain

Banks have already begun to take action to shift operations out of the UK, with the governor of France’s central bank warning on Saturday that Britain’s financial services groups were at risk of losing their right to operate across the EU.
Investment banks have reacted immediately to Britain’s referendum result, with some of the City’s largest institutions approaching regulators to secure licences and lining up executives to relocate.

etc...

Banks begin moving some operations out of Britain - FT.com

They won't be going anywhere?

Certainly there will be some scare mongering, as it looks like many folks linked to banking corruption and cronyism (the likes of Blair) look to ignore, overturn or conduct a second vote...

Soros' 20% drop in the pound turned out to be closer to 5%, but his group and others will try their utmost to devalue the pound in any way possible, such as reports in the FT and Forbes, to rape nation states yet again. These are the scumbags who totally support Europe and rape people's pension funds to buy their 5th mega yought to sit unused in Monaco...

But, this whole discourse of foregrounding exchange rates and share prices and banking strength and economic growth is a massive red herring in itself. It's this discourse which has allowed bankers and their institutions to steal trillions and control the plight of nations (Greece, for example). We need to get back to the realities of manufacturing bases and jobs (not a few thousand in the financial city, but 100,000s across the entire nation) and community welfare (communities across Britain, not just London) and responsibility (moving away from greed culture and welfare/chav culture to family responsibility and social responsibility) and justice (i.e. putting the corrupt like Blair and banking thieves in prison).

**Pragmatic** · 26-06-2016, 08:30 PM

Is it me or does anyone else see a similarity?

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=im...sAQIHA#imgrc=_

**ENT** · 26-06-2016, 08:43 PM

Much of a muchness, not only in looks, both have a strong dictatorial streak and hunger for control.

**harrybarracuda** · 26-06-2016, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Originally Posted by buriramboy

LMAO at investment banks leaving London. The UK can now create an environment even more attractive for investment unshackled and unburdened by EU rules and regulations, I see a great future for the UK in a few years down the road, we've got out first before the whole doomed project comes crashing down.

You really do not understand, do you?

As we speak now, the financial institutions are working out how they are going to work in the event Britain loses its passport to trade within the EU. Its worth about £25-30 billions annually and the word is that the EU are going to fuck Boris and his crew over this ASAP.

I have relatives who have connections to PWC etc and they are worried, seriously worried.

It's a fucking disaster and the £ will be screwed. Hope you bought your dollars and euros, you dumb fuckwit.

Again: We are a net importer from the EU and even they aren't dumb enough to try and screw us over. Most of them'll be signing trade agreements as fast as we can print them out, and the rest are probably so marginal that we'll do better with emerging markets anyway..

This is why Merkel is being so conciliatory.

Oh and PWC are a useless fucking pile of shit and should be shut down.

**Seekingasylum** · 26-06-2016, 10:35 PM

Stupidity seems to be the currency of this forum.

Being a net importer from a fucking club you have just dumped yourself out of is not a good bargaining chip, is it? Well, it may be to a fucking retarded imbecile too fucking stupid to distinguish between his arse and a fucking hole in the ground but to the rest of us seized of a functioning brain it's actually a fucking weakness.

There will be no negotiation as such, the EU will listen to what the UK is offering and if they don't like it they'll tell the Brits to fuck off.

You just can't comprehend the fact that Britain has de-stabilised the financial world and jeopardised the future of the EU and the US emergence into a period of economic well being.

Despite all the claptrap from the hack British rags and Brexit supporters, the EU kingpins are going to fuck the UK. End of.

**taxexile** · 26-06-2016, 10:51 PM

as they fucked greece mercilessly, and they will fuck us mercilessly, and they will fuck any other upstart country eu country that dares to question them.

**harrybarracuda** · 26-06-2016, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Stupidity seems to be the currency of this forum.

Being a net importer from a fucking club you have just dumped yourself out of is not a good bargaining chip, is it?

I'm sure Germany, for example, wants to throw away $53.5 BILLION in net export revenue to the UK because they want to teach us a lesson.

Likewise Holland $15 Billion, France $14 Billion, etc.

It's funny listening to all you remainers, you have no fucking idea and are just scared shitless because you swallowed all the bollocks Cameron told you.

**klong toey** · 27-06-2016, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

5th mega yought

Naughty Betty.
I will do your poof reading for you from now on.

Or is that proofreading.

**Chittychangchang** · 27-06-2016, 12:29 AM

As of Sunday afternoon, around 41,118 signatories have come from Vatican City, 11,717 from the United States, and curiously, 24,855 from North Korea.

At least 19,000 signatures have come from France, and 2,735 from British Antarctic Territory, which has a population of just 250 people.

3M+ 'Remain' Petition Uses 'Script' To 'Fake' Signatures: 25,000 From North Korea, 2,800 From Uninhabitable Antarctic

**Ronin** · 27-06-2016, 02:19 AM

^ Twaddle all signatures are verified.

**buriramboy** · 27-06-2016, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by Ronin

^ Twaddle all signatures are verified.

You really are fucking clueless and gullible. I would try and educate you but it would be a waste of my time. Go look at 4chan website.

**Ronin** · 27-06-2016, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Originally Posted by Ronin

^ Twaddle all signatures are verified.

You really are fucking clueless and gullible. I would try and educate you but it would be a waste of my time. Go look at 4chan website.

Talking about yourself as usual fuck off and mind your own business.

**Dragonfly** · 27-06-2016, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It's funny listening to all you remainers, you have no fucking idea

fook harry, even in politics you are fooking clueless

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