Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

Originally Posted by jabir

If you listen to him I hope you don't give financial advice.

Difficult to believe anything they say. Even what comes from the President's mouth.

Hillary Clinton will be even more tricky,

Propaganda rules. Facts, very few.

They are politicians after all. Keep enemies guessing.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Let's face it, the bloke's a fucking idiot.

Jees you had a tough upbringing arry.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by OhOh

can see that your "evidence" or "facts" are little more, if that even, than propaganda.

Of course you are right its all made up. Assad is a saint just like your gay fantasies Putin and Kim Jong-un.

Trying to look at this sensibly, one cannot base facts on a Photograph as was clearly shown with the so called facts of the article in my post 2130 , of course we all know of the horrendous things that are happening right now in Aleppo but IMHO to apportion blame and come out and say the Russians are deliberately bombing hospitals etc etc is at best rather unwise .

They don't give a fuck who they bomb to keep Assad in power.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by OhOh

can see that your "evidence" or "facts" are little more, if that even, than propaganda.

Of course you are right its all made up. Assad is a saint just like your gay fantasies Putin and Kim Jong-un.

Trying to look at this sensibly, one cannot base facts on a Photograph as was clearly shown with the so called facts of the article in my post 2130 , of course we all know of the horrendous things that are happening right now in Aleppo but IMHO to apportion blame and come out and say the Russians are deliberately bombing hospitals etc etc is at best rather unwise .

They don't give a fuck who they bomb to keep Assad in power.

But if thats the case one would have thought that the Russians would have avoided bombing specific targets like Hospital's etc thus giving the added advantage to Assad's enemy's of Propaganda which it would appear at this moment in time is working some what well by way of World opinion .

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by OhOh

can see that your "evidence" or "facts" are little more, if that even, than propaganda.

Of course you are right its all made up. Assad is a saint just like your gay fantasies Putin and Kim Jong-un.

Trying to look at this sensibly, one cannot base facts on a Photograph as was clearly shown with the so called facts of the article in my post 2130 , of course we all know of the horrendous things that are happening right now in Aleppo but IMHO to apportion blame and come out and say the Russians are deliberately bombing hospitals etc etc is at best rather unwise .

They don't give a fuck who they bomb to keep Assad in power.

But if thats the case one would have thought that the Russians would have avoided bombing specific targets like Hospital's etc thus giving the added advantage to Assad's enemy's of Propaganda which it would appear at this moment in time is working some what well by way of World opinion .

And the world has done precisely what when seeing this and worse?

Ticked them off is what.

Like I said, they don't give a fuck.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by bsnub

Of course you are right its all made up. Assad is a saint just like your gay fantasies Putin and Kim Jong-un.

Trying to look at this sensibly, one cannot base facts on a Photograph as was clearly shown with the so called facts of the article in my post 2130 , of course we all know of the horrendous things that are happening right now in Aleppo but IMHO to apportion blame and come out and say the Russians are deliberately bombing hospitals etc etc is at best rather unwise .

They don't give a fuck who they bomb to keep Assad in power.

But if thats the case one would have thought that the Russians would have avoided bombing specific targets like Hospital's etc thus giving the added advantage to Assad's enemy's of Propaganda which it would appear at this moment in time is working some what well by way of World opinion .

And the world has done precisely what when seeing this and worse?

Ticked them off is what.

Like I said, they don't give a fuck.

It could well be that many think with Assad out of the way that the situation would be far worse than it is already .

^ For once I agree with you, Piwanoi. The break up of Syria would be a disaster much worse than the one we see now.

Originally Posted by Neverna

^ For once I agree with you, Piwanoi. The break up of Syria would be a disaster much worse than the one we see now.

The breakup?

It's already a failed state; without Putin and Iran supporting him, Assad would be long gone.

I would say having a country that is majority Sunni would have more chance of rebuilding.

Wouldn't be too good for the Shi'a though.

It was that imbalance (in reverse) that created Islamic State.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The breakup?

It's already a failed state; without Putin and Iran supporting him, Assad would be long gone.

As I said, it would be much worse than it is now. IS would be in charge of most of it, Kurds would want their own state, Turkey would get militarily involved (even more so than has been) to prevent any Kurdish state emerging, just for starters. Putin has said that supporting Assad is the best option of the poor options available.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The breakup?

It's already a failed state; without Putin and Iran supporting him, Assad would be long gone.

As I said, it would be much worse than it is now. IS would be in charge of most of it, Kurds would want their own state, Turkey would get militarily involved (even more so than has been) to prevent any Kurdish state emerging, just for starters. Putin has said that supporting Assad is the best option of the poor options available.

That's just bullshit. The best option would have been to replace the government early on with a more inclusive one, but he fucked that up.

The Sunni will never, ever forgive Assad.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The breakup?

It's already a failed state; without Putin and Iran supporting him, Assad would be long gone.

As I said, it would be much worse than it is now. IS would be in charge of most of it, Kurds would want their own state, Turkey would get militarily involved (even more so than has been) to prevent any Kurdish state emerging, just for starters. Putin has said that supporting Assad is the best option of the poor options available.

That's just bullshit. The best option would have been to replace the government early on with a more inclusive one, but he fucked that up.

Russia did not get involved at the start.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The breakup?

It's already a failed state; without Putin and Iran supporting him, Assad would be long gone.

As I said, it would be much worse than it is now. IS would be in charge of most of it, Kurds would want their own state, Turkey would get militarily involved (even more so than has been) to prevent any Kurdish state emerging, just for starters. Putin has said that supporting Assad is the best option of the poor options available.

That's just bullshit. The best option would have been to replace the government early on with a more inclusive one, but he fucked that up.

Russia did not get involved at the start.

What on earth are you talking about?

Russia started using its veto on UN resolutions on Syria in 2011, the year of the Arab Spring.

It stopped any chance of UN intervention.

That's exactly why it's descended into chaos.

Had Assad been forced out early on, there would have been a chance at an inclusive government by 2012.

And who do you think has been supplying Assad with weapons all that time?

The only thing they weren't doing from the start is using their own military to attack the opposition.

Weapons have been pouring in from many sources to all sides. A recipe for disaster.

Harry still hating on Putin... ZzZzZzZzZz...

Originally Posted by Neo

Harry still hating on Putin... ZzZzZzZzZz...

I'm guessing the pink hand symbolises your faggy boy crush on him.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by bsnub

Of course you are right its all made up. Assad is a saint just like your gay fantasies Putin and Kim Jong-un.

Trying to look at this sensibly, one cannot base facts on a Photograph as was clearly shown with the so called facts of the article in my post 2130 , of course we all know of the horrendous things that are happening right now in Aleppo but IMHO to apportion blame and come out and say the Russians are deliberately bombing hospitals etc etc is at best rather unwise .

They don't give a fuck who they bomb to keep Assad in power.

But if thats the case one would have thought that the Russians would have avoided bombing specific targets like Hospital's etc thus giving the added advantage to Assad's enemy's of Propaganda which it would appear at this moment in time is working some what well by way of World opinion .

And the world has done precisely what when seeing this and worse?

Ticked them off is what.

Like I said, they don't give a fuck.

Who is 'the world'? Europe is sinking in its own mire, China is busy preparing the SCSea for future fishing/naval rights, so this leaves the same America that lost its last trace of credibility by blinking when Putin strolled into Ukraine.

There is a don't give a f*k because it's not important, and there's a political version brought about by impotence.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Trying to look at this sensibly, one cannot base facts on a Photograph as was clearly shown with the so called facts of the article in my post 2130 , of course we all know of the horrendous things that are happening right now in Aleppo but IMHO to apportion blame and come out and say the Russians are deliberately bombing hospitals etc etc is at best rather unwise .

They don't give a fuck who they bomb to keep Assad in power.

But if thats the case one would have thought that the Russians would have avoided bombing specific targets like Hospital's etc thus giving the added advantage to Assad's enemy's of Propaganda which it would appear at this moment in time is working some what well by way of World opinion .

And the world has done precisely what when seeing this and worse?

Ticked them off is what.

Like I said, they don't give a fuck.

It could well be that many think with Assad out of the way that the situation would be far worse than it is already .

You're getting there.

Originally Posted by jabir

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They don't give a fuck who they bomb to keep Assad in power.

But if thats the case one would have thought that the Russians would have avoided bombing specific targets like Hospital's etc thus giving the added advantage to Assad's enemy's of Propaganda which it would appear at this moment in time is working some what well by way of World opinion .

And the world has done precisely what when seeing this and worse?

Ticked them off is what.

Like I said, they don't give a fuck.

It could well be that many think with Assad out of the way that the situation would be far worse than it is already .

You're getting there.

So glad of that remark cos being you know everything and are totally infallible I must be on the right track

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The breakup?

It's already a failed state; without Putin and Iran supporting him, Assad would be long gone.

As I said, it would be much worse than it is now. IS would be in charge of most of it, Kurds would want their own state, Turkey would get militarily involved (even more so than has been) to prevent any Kurdish state emerging, just for starters. Putin has said that supporting Assad is the best option of the poor options available.

That's just bullshit. The best option would have been to replace the government early on with a more inclusive one, but he fucked that up.

The Sunni will never, ever forgive Assad.

Of course they won't forgive him, he's not Sunni, or Shia, so they never forgave him for that anyway. But to say the region would be better off without Assad displays a typical clipped western view that if you continue making increasingly outlandish blunders eventually you'll end up making one small enough to hail as a success.

As Neverna said, create yet another vacuum and Turkey will use the opportunity to take on the Kurds under a false flag, Jordan becomes IS's next and only plausible direction for retreat giving the Israelis no choice but to get involved, and even a novice western mind should be able to figure out some of those implications. I don't think even a Clinton on her most vicious day could claim to find a bunch of 'friendly' rebels in that mix. And as that fun's taking our attention, Iran and Russian spheres reach right across Iraq and Syria to the Med with direct land threats to Kuwait and the Gulf states.

Could be you don't mind wild rides and hundreds of thousands more civilians killed under the pretext of saving them with another 6-8 million displaced, many of which will end up on heading for Europe, because then you could ease back in your armchair and dismiss it as another wog generated event.

And what do you suppose mad dog NATO's obligations would be if member Turkey takes on Turkish Kurdistan as a defensive engagement, or EU/US/Russian positions while the Israeli's are moving through Jordan (both non-NATO) to engage the IS with or without an invite?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by jabir

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by piwanoi

But if thats the case one would have thought that the Russians would have avoided bombing specific targets like Hospital's etc thus giving the added advantage to Assad's enemy's of Propaganda which it would appear at this moment in time is working some what well by way of World opinion .

And the world has done precisely what when seeing this and worse?

Ticked them off is what.

Like I said, they don't give a fuck.

It could well be that many think with Assad out of the way that the situation would be far worse than it is already .

You're getting there.

So glad of that remark cos being you know everything and are totally infallible I must be on the right track

He is a multi nicking moron.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by jabir

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And the world has done precisely what when seeing this and worse?

Ticked them off is what.

Like I said, they don't give a fuck.

It could well be that many think with Assad out of the way that the situation would be far worse than it is already .

You're getting there.

So glad of that remark cos being you know everything and are totally infallible I must be on the right track

He is a multi nicking moron.

I have heard that from 3 other sources now besides yours so one would assume that there must be an element of fact in it

^ Consider the source.


Jeff

Originally Posted by Neverna

^ Consider the source.


Jeff

That's only one, and its way off the mark anyway

Originally Posted by jabir

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The breakup?

It's already a failed state; without Putin and Iran supporting him, Assad would be long gone.

As I said, it would be much worse than it is now. IS would be in charge of most of it, Kurds would want their own state, Turkey would get militarily involved (even more so than has been) to prevent any Kurdish state emerging, just for starters. Putin has said that supporting Assad is the best option of the poor options available.

That's just bullshit. The best option would have been to replace the government early on with a more inclusive one, but he fucked that up.

The Sunni will never, ever forgive Assad.

Of course they won't forgive him, he's not Sunni, or Shia, so they never forgave him for that anyway. But to say the region would be better off without Assad displays a typical clipped western view that if you continue making increasingly outlandish blunders eventually you'll end up making one small enough to hail as a success.

As Neverna said, create yet another vacuum and Turkey will use the opportunity to take on the Kurds under a false flag, Jordan becomes IS's next and only plausible direction for retreat giving the Israelis no choice but to get involved, and even a novice western mind should be able to figure out some of those implications. I don't think even a Clinton on her most vicious day could claim to find a bunch of 'friendly' rebels in that mix. And as that fun's taking our attention, Iran and Russian spheres reach right across Iraq and Syria to the Med with direct land threats to Kuwait and the Gulf states.

Could be you don't mind wild rides and hundreds of thousands more civilians killed under the pretext of saving them with another 6-8 million displaced, many of which will end up on heading for Europe, because then you could ease back in your armchair and dismiss it as another wog generated event.

And what do you suppose mad dog NATO's obligations would be if member Turkey takes on Turkish Kurdistan as a defensive engagement, or EU/US/Russian positions while the Israeli's are moving through Jordan (both non-NATO) to engage the IS with or without an invite?

What sort of fucking multinic moron thinks that Assad and Putin are ever going to restore stability in Syria when 70% of the population want him (well both of them) strung up?

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by Neverna

^ Consider the source.


Jeff

That's only one, and its way off the mark anyway