Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

the US and their silly coalition are going to fail, once again

some people never learn, or are just plain stupid

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

the US and their silly coalition are going to fail, once again

some people never learn, or are just plain stupid

Right... But who owns the world? Plain stupid people?

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Assad needs to stay, he is the only force that can stabilize that country

do we need another Iraq ?

WTF?

Have you even studied the history of the Syrian conflict since the Arab spring?

Assad can *never* stabilise Syria.

A stable Syria requires all parties to reach agreement, and moderate Syrian rebels will never forgive him for his genocide.

Say what you like about the Arabs, but boy do they know how to bear a grudge.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Right... But who owns the world? Plain stupid people?

Not so - if this were the case you'd be someone important, not some German gay guy's leftovers

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Say what you like about the Arabs, but boy do they know how to bear a grudge.

They're legendary in that respect . . . in the end it all comes down to them being a very tribal bunch

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

the US and their silly coalition are going to fail, once again

some people never learn, or are just plain stupid

Right... But who owns the world?

Asians?

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

the US and their silly coalition are going to fail, once again

some people never learn, or are just plain stupid

Right... But who owns the world?

Asians?

Not yet, but I get your point and thank you for intelligent conversation.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

the US and their silly coalition are going to fail, once again

some people never learn, or are just plain stupid

Right... But who owns the world?

Asians?

I thought it was the baby jesus.

You're confusing religion and ethnicity again Herman - do try a bit harder not to come across as a total bigot at every turn

^It's suggesting not ALL arabs are rag headed, Herman, and that's the confusing bit for you,

Yet islamophobia is greeted with accusations of 'racism', and not awareness of the sick, evil occult that it is

Condescendingly hypocritical, isn't it

^ Well said, as every religion, cult or whatever bunch of nutters has their bad people and some have good people. But then, what about those of their people who do nothing while knowing about what is going to happen. Rapes, terrorist attacks... "I was just following orders" we heard in Nuremberg, but legally speaking, sharia law is not recognized as legal in the UK, US, Australia or NZ, and I'm pretty sure not in China or Russia either. Euroshite can sink.

And was it neverlad or one of his 2 mates who called me a racist, wtf, following what I said I didn't care if I was a white man or a black man. Go figure, white or black is all the same when you are infidel. OK You Neverlad have your camels, we have satellites and drones. We can see you...

Apparently Her Majesty Elizabeth II's current government does not wish to participate with the P4+1 coalition. It has turned down an offer to share terrorist targeting or weapons supply drops.



https://www.rt.com/news/319318-russi...k-cooperation/

As the Americans have now instituted a "Results" orientated reward scheme (lethal weapons if you slaughter Syrian Government, Iranian or Hezbollah troops. Double points if you shoot down a Syrian or Russian plane) with it's proxy terrorists in Syria and Iraq. The P4+1 could offer a deal with Her Majesty Elizabeth II's current government.

Tell us how many sorties you have, how many ground attacks you achieve and how many terrorist resupply missions you achieve. All locations, mission videos and weapons used or supplied to be shared on an "after the event" basis.

This would achieve two things. The first, the numbers of terrorists attacked and the mission objective and result, the second the arms supplied their recipients and the agreed targets of the terrorists upon which the weapons will be utilised.

All aircraft from countries which agree to the Memorandum would be free to operate within Syrian airspace. Those that refuse will be targeted and fired upon unless the run back to, in the UK's case, mummy Liz.

This would demonstrate to the world what exactly their "brave boys" are doing and achieving when spending thier taxpayers money blowing things up.

Canada has notified Obama that it will be withdrawing military assets from the "war on terror" too.

Canada to end airstrikes in Syria and Iraq, new prime minister Trudeau says | World news | The Guardian

Originally Posted by OhOh

Apparently Her Majesty Elizabeth II's current government does not wish to participate with the P4+1 coalition. It has turned down an offer to share terrorist targeting or weapons supply drops.

President Xi came to town... told her madge who the daddy is now

Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in UK - BBC News

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by OhOh

Apparently Her Majesty Elizabeth II's current government does not wish to participate with the P4+1 coalition. It has turned down an offer to share terrorist targeting or weapons supply drops.

President Xi came to town... told her madge who the daddy is now

Chinese President Xi Jinping arrives in UK - BBC News

But on the bright side, sales of Burberry, Whisky and Shortbread biscuits will grow exponentially.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

sales of Burberry, Whisky and Shortbread biscuits will grow exponentially.

All made in a factory just outside Shanghai, probably. Still they will collect some royalties for Madge.

Originally Posted by Neverna

It would make sense for the "rebels" and the Syrian government and army to come to some sort of truce so they could both focus on eliminating IS in Syria. Perhaps after their "truce" they would be able to work out something diplomatically/politically for the future of Syria.

It looks like Russia and Syria read my posts on Teak Door.


Syria war: Lavrov seeks talks with 'full spectrum' of opposition - BBC News


Syria war: Lavrov seeks talks with 'full spectrum' of opposition

Syria's ally Russia says there should be talks between the Syrian government and the "full spectrum" of opposition.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov also urged an intensification of efforts to find a political solution to the war.

Mr Lavrov was speaking after meeting his counterparts from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the US.

On Thursday, President Putin suggested the Syrian regime could be ready to work with some rebel groups against the so-called Islamic State.

Mr Putin said President Assad had agreed to the idea on a recent visit to Moscow.

Again, the majority of Syrians will never accept Assad remaining in power. He has murdered too many people in cold blood.

If Russia is serious about peace talks, it needs to tell him to go to his retirement estate outside Teheran and find someone acceptable to both Sunni and Alawite.

The majority of Syrians living within Syria would vote for him in an instant. Those that have left have already shown their colours.

It seems the Russians and Syrian leaders even discussed holding early elections, Assad won a seven year term just last year I believe.. This would put to bed whether or not the current Syrian leader has the support of the people.

I suspect a precondition of any Government to terrorists talks would entail a commitment to disarm more likely an unconditional surrender. You know like most wars, they end the fighting, surrender their weapons, are interrogated for war crimes prior to elections. Any combatants who can be legitimately charged with war crimes would face trial.

Or is that too old fashioned or unexceptional to the crusader coalition leaders?

Let's see what the Syrian government and it's partners can agree first. Once they have agreed, make offers to the terrorists.

Originally Posted by OhOh

The majority of Syrians living within Syria would vote for him in an instant. Those that have left have already shown their colours.
It seems the Russians and Syrian leaders even discussed holding early elections, Assad won a seven year term just last year I believe.. This would put to bed whether or not the current Syrian leader has the support of the people.

Elections....? Put to bed any questions of support for Assad...? Really? This from 2014.

Re-writing history is difficult in the age of internet research. I'm supprised you keep trying.

DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Against a backdrop of civil war, tens of thousands of Syrians voted in government-controlled cities and towns Tuesday to give President Bashar Assad a new seven-year mandate, with some even marking the ballots with their own blood.

The carefully choreographed election was ignored and even mocked in opposition-held areas of Syria where fighting persisted, with some rebels derisively dropping their shoes in a phony ballot box in a show of disgust. Western leaders also called it a sham.

A victory for Assad is likely to bolster his base of support at home and provide further evidence that he has no intention of relinquishing power, making a protracted conflict the likely outcome in fighting that has already lasted three years.

More at
Syria's 2014 Presidential Election Ignored In Opposition-Held Areas

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by OhOh

Assad won a seven year term just last year I believe.. This would put to bed whether or not the current Syrian leader has the support of the people.

To be fair here, I don't think there was much that was democratic about the process, as with Putin's own 'popular' mandate. A 7 year term is a very long time to be in power before the 'option' of change. He's ruled for 15 years and took over from his father who ruled for 30.

Assad.. total scumbag willing to kill his own people to remain in power.
Unfortunately at this point the complete implosion of Syria is a far more alarming prospect.

However, as much as many abhor Putin's presence he has at least persuaded Assad to hold an election... okay so based on the Russian model of free and fair elections that doesn't really hold much water, but at least it is aiming at a political solution to the ongoing carnage and will hopefully give the opposition Syrians a platform for their grievances.

Syria's Assad says ready to hold presidential election with people's blessing | Reuters

If Putin forces him to hold a free and fair election, I'm all for it.

But Putin isn't exactly a fucking beacon of democracy, is he?

Nope... Putin is one of the bad guys too, but at this point in history he's one of the least bad. We'll have to see how this plays out, Putin has been vocal about the West's lack of participation in a political negotiation, I wonder if Putin and Assad will mind then if international observers oversee the election..