The 'Americans Getting Shot' Thread

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I always thought it was standard procedure to shoot an escaping suspect in America ?

[ch1ldofthemoon]

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I refer you to... All-white jury - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[rickschoppers]

Again, what makes you think the jury will be all white? Also, how would this abberation apply in this particular case?

[ch1ldofthemoon]

It was a comment about `all white` juries in the USA, and the fact that it`s been known in the past that juries have been swayed by colour rather than evidence.
I`ve no idea what the make-up of the jury will be or how they will react, in this case, but one hope`s that they will come to a conclusion that is evidence based?

[billy the kid]

the black cop working with him didn't look too disturbed.

he didn't say ' hey what the f*ck are you doing' prick

seemed like he was just doin his routine.

so he's in the frame also,,, no/yes.

jees all over a broken tail light.

[rickschoppers]

^
If that were the case, why didn't the black cop handle things? Possibly a different outcome?

[billy the kid]

thought their story was that the guy tried to rob a tazor gun

only when the vid showed up that their story changed.

now they're saying that justice is alive and well.

but without the vid would he have been arrested ?
or given a pat on the back.

[misskit]

Activists Press South Carolina for Police Body Cameras After Shooting

[Cujo]

Don't know what those idiots want. No one's denying anything, how could they in the face of that video.

South Carolina police release dash cam video

The dash cam footage shows Walter Scott's car being pulled over and Officer Michael Slager asking for his paperwork before Mr Scott runs away
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What South Carolina video shows
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South Carolina officials have released a new video showing the moments before a US police officer shot dead an unarmed black man in the back.
The footage shows Walter Scott's car being pulled over and Officer Michael Slager asking for his paperwork.
After Mr Slager returns to his police vehicle, Mr Scott opens his door and runs, leaving a passenger in the car.

Mr Slager was arrested on murder charges after another video showed him shooting at Mr Scott as he fled.
The newly released video from the officer's dashboard camera shows Mr Slager pulling over Mr Scott's Mercedes sedan due to a broken tail light, and asking for his driving license and registration.

Mr Scott explains that he is in the progress of purchasing the vehicle and does not have the correct paperwork with him.
Although the video does not capture Mr Slager firing eight shots, gunshots and shouting are heard off-screen.
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Feidin Santana, who filmed the shooting of Walter Scott, said the man "was not a threat to the police officer"
"Get on the ground now!" Mr Slager is heard shouting.

Later in the video, another police officer questions the passenger in the car and releases him. Lawyers for Mr Scott's family told CNN that they are looking for the passenger.
After the first video of the incident emerged on Tuesday, protesters held rallies in North Charleston, chanting "no justice, no peace".
They are the latest protests about police use of lethal force, which began after the killing of Michael Brown, a teenager in Ferguson, by a police officer who was not charged for his death.

Feidin Santana, who filmed the first video on his mobile phone, said he turned over the footage after reading the police report's description of the killing.
"It wasn't like that, the way they were saying," Mr Santana said.

Mr Slager, who is being held in jail without bond, was fired on Wednesday from the North Charleston Police Department.
It has also emerged that Mr Slager had a prior complaint made against him about using force.
Police are re-investigating Mr Slager's use of a stun gun on Mario Givens in 2013.
Mr Givens said Mr Slager had pushed into his home after coming to his door.

North Charleston police department said they would review the complaint investigation
"Come outside or I'll 'Tase' you,'" he quoted the officer as saying, adding he raised his arms over his head but was then stunned in the stomach.
Mr Slager was investigating a complaint against Mr Givens' brother and apparently mistook Mr Givens for his sibling.
Charges were dropped and Mr Slager was exonerated by a police investigation into the incident.

US police: Controversial recent killings
April 2015: Walter Lamer Scott, 50, is shot eight times in South Carolina as he runs away from Officer Michael Slager. Mr Scott dies at the scene. The shooting is captured on video and Mr Slager is charged with murder.
December 2014: Jerame Reid, 36, is shot dead during a routine traffic stop in New Jersey. An officer claims Mr Reid was reaching for a gun, but video footage seems to suggest he was attempting to step out of the car, hands raised.
November 2014: Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old boy, is shot dead in a playground by Cleveland police after a local resident reports he is pointing a gun at passers by. The gun turns out to be a toy. A grand jury will decide whether police will face charges.
August 2014: Michael Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old, is shot dead by Officer Darren Wilson in Ferguson, Missouri. The shooting leads to protests, first in Ferguson and later nationwide. A grand jury decides not to charge Mr Wilson.
July 2014: Eric Garner, an asthma sufferer, is stopped by police in New York and placed in a chokehold after refusing to be handcuffed. He dies despite repeatedly telling officers he cannot breathe. No police are charged.
March 2014: James Boyd, an unarmed homeless man camping in Alberquerque, is shot dead by two officers. Video of the incident leads prosecutors to say the officers acted with "deliberate intention" and they are charged.

South Carolina police release dash cam video - BBC News

[Boon Mee]

Don't know what those idiots want. No one's denying anything, how could they in the face of that video.

What the knee-jerk idiots want is a National Police Force. States rights right out of the window. Perhaps something along the lines of the National Socialist Party Brownshirts 1930's Germany?

[panama hat]

What the knee-jerk idiots want is a National Police Force.

It's called the FBI . . . and you've had it a while

States rights right out of the window.

And this has to do with the post . . . what exactly?

Perhaps something along the lines of the National Socialist Party Brownshirts 1930's Germany?

Again, what does this have to do withe the thread/post? Are you excusing the police in their obvious murderous paths by saying they should keep on doing what they're doing because of some spurious reference to Nazi Germany?

Thanks for bringing in Godwin's law . . . when all else fails, bring in the Nazis

[Boon Mee]

Merely postulating here, don't stroke out there Rocker.

It's a slippery slope starting with Al Sharpton calling for Federal Police Laws.

"There must be national policy and national law on policing,” Mr. Sharpton said. “We can’t go from state to state, we’ve got to have national law to protect people against these continued questions.”

Al Sharpton Calls for Federal Police Laws After South Carolina Killing | Observer

[panama hat]

It's a slippery slope starting with Al Sharpton calling for Federal Police Laws.

There are already federal police laws - what's so astonishing about that?

There must be national policy and national law on policing

Again, I see no problem with this . . . and instead of crying our 'State's Rights, State's Rights', why not explain why it isn't a good idea to have uniform laws on policing

[sabang]

Murdering, cowardly cops should be charged with the full force of the law- after all, they are uniformed, supposedly trained law enforcement officers with a professional duty of care. Does Sth Carolina have the death penalty? If so, light him up.

[Davis Knowlton]

^Yep. Choice of electric chair or lethal injection.

[sabang]

[Neo]

They spelt argument wrong

[Boon Mee]

It's a slippery slope starting with Al Sharpton calling for Federal Police Laws.

There are already federal police laws - what's so astonishing about that?

There must be national policy and national law on policing

Again, I see no problem with this . . . and instead of crying our 'State's Rights, State's Rights', why not explain why it isn't a good idea to have uniform laws on policing

See any problem with the increasing militarization of police forces?

Police records shed light on secret military training in USA.

Aspects of exercises hint at 'domestic focus'.

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Why the secrecy?

Re uniform laws on policing - unachievable IMO if you look at NY & NJ gun laws for example and Billy Bob's County in East Sagebrush TX.

[stroller]

See any problem with the increasing militarization of police forces?

No.

They need to be able to crack down on the looney left, Muzzies, negroes, feminazis and other potential terrorists when it comes to it.

[Boon Mee]

See any problem with the increasing militarization of police forces?

No.

They need to be able to crack down on the looney left, Muzzies, negroes, feminazis and other potential terrorists when it comes to it.

Heh...good to see you posting in Speakers Corner again!

...just like the old days.

[slackula]

They spelt argument wrong

You just spelling-nazied a Godwin, that's like dividing by zero or something!

[panama hat]

You just spelling-nazied a Godwin, that's like dividing by zero or something!

Unheard of . . .

They spelt argument wrong

It's um . . . . French

[Necron99]

Three-year-old boy has shot and killed a one-year-old boy in the US

A THREE-year-old boy has picked up an unattended gun inside a home and it went off, shooting a one-year-old boy in the head and killing him, US police say.
Cleveland Police Chief Calvin Williams told reporters gathered outside the home after the shooting on Sunday afternoon that investigators are trying to determine where the gun came from.
Cleveland.com reports the 1-year-old was taken to a hospital and pronounced dead.
Not the childs fault ... Cleveland Police Chief Calvin Williams said someone will be held



Full details about the shooting on the city’s east side weren’t released, but Williams said at least one adult was home when it happened.
“It’s a sad day for Cleveland,” he told reporters.
“This fascination that we have with handguns, not just in this city but in this country, has to stop. This is a senseless loss of life.”
Cleveland.com reported the boy’s mother could be heard screaming on the back porch after learning her son had died.
Neighbours said the mother lived in the house with at least three small children

Three-year-old boy shoots and kills baby boy in Cleveland in the US

[Necron99]

US video shows cop shoot dead Oklahoma man

US authorities have released video showing the killing of a black suspect by a white reserve sheriff's deputy during a recent arrest in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
THE video of the April 2 incident shows a Tulsa County deputy chase and tackle 44-year-old Eric Harris, whom they accuse of trying to sell an illegal gun to an undercover officer.
While the deputy is subduing Harris on the ground, a gunshot rings out and a man says, "Oh, I shot him. I'm sorry".
Authorities say the shooter was 73-year-old reserve deputy Robert Bates, and that he meant to use his stun gun.
Harris screams, "He shot me. Oh my God," and a deputy replies: "You f***ing ran. Shut the f*** up."
Harris then says he's losing his breath.
The deputy replies, "F*** your breath."
Harris was treated by medics at the scene and eventually died in a Tulsa hospital.
The video was released over the weekend after Harris' family requested that it be made public.
It was recorded by deputies with sunglass cameras, Tulsa County Sheriff's Office officials said.
They said Bates believed he was holding a Taser and intended to incapacitate Harris when the fatal shot was fired.
An investigator who reviewed details of the shooting concluded that the deputy suffered a phenomenon known as "slips and capture".
Tulsa Police Sergeant Jim Clark, who was asked to investigate the shooting by the sheriff's office, has said Bates was a victim of a high stress phenomenon in which a person's behaviour "slips" off the intended course of action because it's "captured" by a stronger response.
Results of the investigation were turned over to prosecutors, who will decide whether to file criminal charges.


US video shows cop shoot dead Oklahoma man

[Troy]

I've always thought that to be a very unfortunate name....I wonder if Mr Bates has relieved that latent desire to top someone now....