The 'Americans Getting Shot' Thread

[panama hat]

It's unbelievable, totally unbelievable.
That you don't know that taking the "s" out of the https in the video link stops tha page from breaking........

Yea, I do apologise . . . I should know better after 20 years in IT . . .

Oh and the video was murder.

It certainly was . . . as are so many of these and the cops just keep on doing what they're doing.
(Enter an apologist with a link to how a cop was shot . . . )

[Necron99]

It's unbelievable, totally unbelievable.
That you don't know that taking the "s" out of the https in the video link stops tha page from breaking........

Yea, I do apologise . . . I should know better after 20 years in IT . . .

Oh and the video was murder.

It certainly was . . . as are so many of these and the cops just keep on doing what they're doing.
(Enter an apologist with a link to how a cop was shot . . . )

I think the principal evidence there was no persevered threat is that the cop with the video spent most of the time looking at his clearly freaking out partner rather than the deadly psycho with the small screwdriver of mass destruction....

[panama hat]

small screwdriver of mass destruction....

. . . I think we'd all shoot to kill if someone was holding one of those six feet away from us . . . those things can break the skin if enough pressure is applied

[robuzo]

Here are two more, a two-year-old and a three-year-old:
Northwest Ga. girl hospitalized in accidental shooting - WRCBtv.com | Chattanooga News, Weather & Sports
DALTON, Ga. (AP) - Authorities in northwest Georgia say a toddler has been hospitalized in an accidental shooting. . . the 2-year-old girl apparently shot herself just below her navel Thursday morning and has been taken to the Hamilton County Medical Center. Details on how the girl got the gun weren't immediately available.
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Family of 3-year-old shot in face wants tougher penalties
LAKE STEVENS, Wash. -- It's been four months since Michael Holzworth, a 3-year-old Lake Stevens boy, was shot in the face with his dad's loaded gun. His dad faces a reckless endangerment charge, which is a gross misdemeanor. But Michael's mom and grandparents want the law changed to make it a more serious offense.
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But, you know, whatever. The boy's dad needed the gun for protection. Also, too, 2nd Amendment.

[panama hat]

I'm starting to understand . . .

Guns don't shoot bullets . . . 2 and 3 year old do

[Boon Mee]

Check out this Study: Hunting Increases Levels of Love Hormones in Men.

Researchers tracked the Tsimane people, an indigenous population of foragers and farmers in the lowlands of Bolivia’s Amazon basin, and found that male testosterone levels spiked during a day of hunting. Men who had large testosterone spikes during the day experienced corresponding increases in oxytocin, a hormone thought to promote intimacy and romantic feelings in relationships and to increase empathy and trust. Scientists also think the hormone is an important factor in monogamous pair bonding.

For decades, feminists (and their self-loathing male accomplices) have been trying to browbeat men into acting more like women under the premise — false as it turns out — that emasculated men would be better partners and we could finally achieve societal Utopia (or something). Men have been told that if they could only free themselves from the wicked effects of testosterone, all would be well in the world (and the women would finally stop being mad at them all the time).

As it turns out, the science wasn’t settled on this and it looks like we’ve been going about it all wrong. It seems that pistols — not Pinterest — are the path to a happy relationship.

Study: Hunting Increases Levels of Love Hormones in Men | PJ Lifestyle

Why should anyone be surprised at these findings?

[panama hat]

Researchers tracked the Tsimane people, an indigenous population of foragers and farmers in the lowlands of Bolivia’s Amazon basin, and found that male testosterone levels spiked during a day of hunting.

So, go live in the forest with the Tsimane people . . .

[robuzo]

As it turns out, the science wasn’t settled on this and it looks like we’ve been going about it all wrong. It seems that pistols — not Pinterest — are the path to a happy relationship.

Study: Hunting Increases Levels of Love Hormones in Men | PJ Lifestyle

Why should anyone be surprised at these findings?

I'm surprised that you are suggesting hunting with pistols. Have you ever hunted?

My mom was quite the accomplished pheasant shooter when she was young. Maybe that explains why all her children are boys.

[OhOh]

I think we'd all shoot to kill if someone was holding one of those six feet away from us . . . those things can break the skin if enough pressure is applied

Who needs a gun?

If it had been a Thai lady with the machete who knows what would have happened.

"A man allegedly used a can of wasp spray against a TSA agent in New Orleans before pulling out a machete and stabbing another agent at the Louis Armstrong International Airport near New Orleans, Louisiana, according to local media.

Police are currently investigating the incident and officials said the airport has now been secured. It appears that two Transportation Security Administration (TSA) agents were injured in an attack at a security checkpoint and that the man responsible for the violence has been killed. The assailant has been transported to a hospital but is not responding, WVUE reported."


http://rt.com/usa/242789-new-orleans-airport-shots/

[PeeCoffee]

^^^
(Last sentence from article)
Usually they don't respond too well once they have been killed.

[Boon Mee]

As it turns out, the science wasn’t settled on this and it looks like we’ve been going about it all wrong. It seems that pistols — not Pinterest — are the path to a happy relationship.

Study: Hunting Increases Levels of Love Hormones in Men | PJ Lifestyle

Why should anyone be surprised at these findings?

I'm surprised that you are suggesting hunting with pistols. Have you ever hunted?

My mom was quite the accomplished pheasant shooter when she was young. Maybe that explains why all her children are boys.

When I lived in the States I hunted each fall - deer, ptarmigan, ducks & occasionally got roped in with some fellows who went bear hunting although I've never shot one.

Pistols for snapping turtles. My mother was too an ace with firearms.

[Davis Knowlton]

^Went fishing for snapping turtles in Georgia. Hauled in a huge one - head twice as big as my fist. All of a sudden he shook loose the gang hook and started lunging around the bottom of the boat snapping at us. I blew him away with a .45. Six shots.



Long swim back to shore it was..........

Unhappy boat owner as well......

[robuzo]

^Must have been an alligator snapper.

We always caught snappers by hand. If you shoot them in the water you'll never find them. The meat spoils very quickly so they need to be killed just before preparation.

[Ozcol]

^ That would have made a great video.

[Boon Mee]

^Went fishing for snapping turtles in Georgia. Hauled in a huge one - head twice as big as my fist. All of a sudden he shook loose the gang hook and started lunging around the bottom of the boat snapping at us. I blew him away with a .45. Six shots.



Long swim back to shore it was..........

Unhappy boat owner as well......

Was that occasion before or after your encounters with Charles?

[Davis Knowlton]

^Must have been an alligator snapper.

It was...a really pissed off one.

[Davis Knowlton]

Was that occasion before or after your encounters with Charles?

Couple of years after.....

[Boon Mee]

Armed 84-Year-Old Saves Wife From Punk

Being 84 years old does not necessarily mean being a victim.

An armed 84-year-old Tulsa man said he was nearly forced to “ventilate” his attacker when he made a threatening move towards his wife during a robbery attempt on Monday.

Doug Jandebeur had just walked outside of his business, Jandebeur and Co., and opened the door to his truck when a man approached from behind and ordered, “Don’t turn around, don’t turn around.”

Jandebeur said he thought it was one of his friends playing a trick on him, but soon realized the man behind him was serious."

84-Year-Old Man Pulled Out His Automatic To Stop Attack | The Daily Caller

[Boon Mee]

NY Times Admits More Americans Support Gun Rights Instead of Gun Control

Yes, you read that title correctly. The liberal NY Times has actually admitted that more Americans support gun rights over gun control.

The Times acknowledged the survey conducted by the Pew Research Center that polled 1507 adults from December 3rd to December 7th.

According to the NY Times:

The center said that it was the first time in two decades of its surveys on attitudes about firearms that a majority of Americans had expressed more support for gun ownership rights than for gun control.

Fifty-two percent of respondents said it was more important to protect gun ownership rights, and 46 percent said the priority should be controlled access to firearms.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/12..._r=2&referrer=

[panama hat]

You haven't read the thread title?

[panama hat]

Sobering numbers

Seven US children are shot dead every day on average ‘and we are as a country ignoring them’


For every U.S. soldier killed in Afghanistan during 11 years of war, at least 13 children were shot and killed in America.

More than 450 kids didn’t make it to kindergarten.

Another 2,700 or more were killed by a firearm before they could sit behind the wheel of a car.

Every day, on average, seven children were shot dead.

A News21 investigation of child and youth deaths in America between 2002 and 2012 found that at least 28,000 children and teens 19-years-old and younger were killed with guns. Teenagers between the ages of 15 and 19 made up over two-thirds of all youth gun deaths in America.

The News21 findings are compiled in the most complete database to date from records obtained from 49 state health departments and FBI Supplementary Homicide Reports.

“It’s an unacceptable number and it should be regardless of where you stand on gun-owning ideology,” said Colette Martin, a member of Parents Against Gun Violence. “The numbers are that high and we are as a country ignoring them.”

Most of those killed by firearms, 62 percent, were murdered and the majority of victims were black children and teens. Suicides resulted in 25 percent of the firearm deaths of young people: The majority of them were white. More than 1,100 children and teens were killed by a gun that accidentally discharged.

An epidemic of violence

Zeke Cohen, executive director of The Intersection, a Baltimore youth advocacy group, said the dialogue on guns only seems to pierce the national consciousness when it’s a mass shooting in an affluent white suburban community, such as the one where he grew up.

The American gun debate, he said, rarely takes into account the number of black youth who are murdered every day.

“We as a country tolerate violence when it is in low-income black communities,” Cohen said. “Because we’ve come to accept that the acceptable face of gun deaths is black, we allow it to continue to happen.”

Dawnya Johnson was 11 years old when her already broken life was shattered further. Her mom was addicted to drugs, her dad was in prison, and she was tossed from foster home to foster home. She found solace in her older cousin, but that protection was left on a bloody sidewalk. Johnson’s cousin was shot six times in the back and he bled to death before the ambulance got to the scene. He was 17.

Dawnya Johnson, whose cousin was shot and killed when he was 17 years old, speaks to a group in this undated photo. Johnson is a member of the Baltimore-based Intersection, a youth advocacy group. Photo courtesy of Dawnya Johnson.


“He had taken on the role of two people who were unable to take care of me at that time,” Johnson said. “This beam of support had been ripped from under me.”

Her cousin had lost his job and started selling drugs to make ends meet. When Johnson’s foster families wouldn’t give her food or buy her clothes, he always found a way to get her what she needed.

“My cousin made sure that I had the basic stuff and that I had Nikes and looked fresh every day,” Johnson said. “No kid would ever know if we were homeless or I was hungry walking in the door.”

A young black girl growing up on her own in inner-city Baltimore, in a state with one of the highest percentage of black youth gun deaths in the nation, she said she doesn’t live in fear.

“I’ve become desensitized to fear,” Johnson said. “Once something happens so many times and it repeats itself it becomes something that you don’t fear.”

Jennifer Rauhouse, executive director of Peer Solutions, an Arizona-based organization that looks to prevent violence from occurring, said gun violence was a manifestation of other issues, such as child abuse, sexual abuse and bullying.

“If we don’t get to the heart of the question of gun violence, we’re doomed,” said Rauhouse, who founded the organization.

It’s not enough to react after a shooting, she said. Steps have to be taken to prevent that sort of violence from occurring in the first place.

Eli Chevalier, a high school senior and member of Peer Solutions, said the group works to prevent violence by teaching middle- and high-school students that respect and equality are the norm, not violence.

“People won’t turn to drugs and violence if they have respect and equality in their lives and in their relationships,” Chevalier said.

Cohen started The Intersection, a Baltimore youth advocacy group, after he was held at gunpoint in his Maryland apartment and realized how many kids live with gun violence in their neighborhoods. Johnson, an active member and student leader of The Intersection, lives with it every day.

“For my students, it’s having hope and feeling like they are playing a constructive role in bettering their communities,” Cohen said. “One of the challenges when you’re dealing with communities is that the victims of the gun violence often have a feeling of disenfranchisement.”

All of the students at The Intersection have been affected by gun violence. They’ve lost family or friends, been shot at or caught in shootouts.

“Our students are attempting to change that narrative and dismantle the amount of violence in our city,” Cohen said.

The state of Maryland had one of the highest percentages of black youth gun deaths from 2002 to 2012. In 11 years, more than 600 black kids were shot and killed in their homes or on the street.

“Kids are getting killed, but the reality is America has played such a role in shaping these communities, there is a responsibility that we have to solve this problem,” Cohen said.

The conversation can’t be just about guns, it’s more about racism and poverty, he said.

“There is too much access. It’s easier for a child to buy a firearm in Baltimore than it is to buy a pack of cigarettes,” Cohen said. “The less guns that are available, the less gun deaths we are going to have, but that doesn’t solve the problem.”

“This is not a Maryland problem, this is an American problem.”

One gun, one moment

Suicides by gunfire, on the other hand, made up the majority of gun deaths among white youth, accounting for an average of 644 every year.

“A gun doesn’t cause the suicidality, but a suicidal person with access to a gun is far more likely to die from an attempt than someone using another method,” said Elaine Frank, the director of Counseling on Access to Lethal Means. “It’s the combination of accessibility, familiarity, lethality and really short time frame that’s offered by a firearm.”

In New Hampshire, where CALM is based, more than 95 percent of all young people killed by guns were white youths and 70 percent of them committed suicide, News21 found.

As a former program director of the injury prevention center at the Children’s Hospital at Dartmouth in New Hampshire, Frank helped develop a state plan on suicide prevention, from which the state developed a suicide prevention council. According to Frank it’s not the gun laws that are going to prevent suicide – it has to be more of a family, community and cultural change.

“We are not anti-gun, we aren’t saying that gun use is a problem or gun ownership is a problem,” Frank said. “What we are opposed to is gun misuse and we do consider the ill-attempt by a child misuse.”

With a fairly rural culture, New Hampshire kids grow up with guns and are taught gun safety. They are familiar with firearms and most teenagers know where the guns are kept.

“If someone is suicidal and if they have easy access to highly lethal means, specifically firearms, it greatly increases the risk that if they do make an attempt it will be a lethal attempt,” Frank said.
Vermont, another rural New England state, also is facing the problem of youth suicides, with 73 percent of its youth gun deaths being suicides.

“Particularly in young people, the time of risk is often very short,” Frank said. “The time from making the decision to make an attempt, to actually making an attempt can be very, very short. There’s not enough time to say I don’t want to do this.”

Unintentional bullets are just as destructive


Sincere Tymere Smith, 2, fatally shot himself on Christmas day in Conway, S.C. The gun was his father’s, who bought it after someone broke into his home. Photo courtesy of WMBF-TV, Fox Carolina.


Accidents involving guns are the third-largest cause of firearm deaths for youths, after murder and suicide. More than 1,100 kids have been killed by a gun that accidentally discharged, the News21 analysis showed.

James Parker was 12 years old when he was accidentally shot and killed by a family member. He was hunting with his dad, uncle and step brother in Wake Forest, North Carolina, when a shotgun blast took his life.

Sincere Tymere Smith was 2 when he fatally shot himself with his father’s gun on Christmas in Conway, South Carolina. His father, who bought the gun after a previous break-in, was charged with involuntary manslaughter after the toddler grabbed the gun as it was lying on the table and shot himself in the chest.

Ryder Rozier, 3, shot and killed himself in Guthrie, Okla., after he found his uncle’s gun. Photo courtesy of Elite Daily.


Ryder Rozier was 3 when he stumbled across a gun in his uncle’s bedroom and shot himself in the head in Guthrie, Oklahoma. The gun belonged to his uncle, a state trooper.

Neegnco Xiong was 2 when he was shot by his 4-year-old brother, who found a gun under their father’s pillow in Minneapolis. The gun did not have a safety on it. The father was charged with second-degree manslaughter and endangerment of a child.

William Rees was 14 when he shot himself at his grandparent’s house in Fremont County, Idaho. He was shooting targets when his pistol went off and pierced his abdomen.

All were killed in 2012.

“Any gun that ends up in the hands of a child is first passed through the hands of an adult,” said Colette Martin, a member of Parents Against Gun Violence. “We have a lot of responsibility and accountability when it comes to legal gun owners who allow children to access their guns unsupervised.”

Teens between 15 and 19 were the most likely to be killed by the unintentional pull of a trigger, accounting for half of such deaths.

Neegnco Xiong, 2, was shot and killed by his older brother in Minneapolis. The 4-year-old found his father’s gun under a pillow. Photo courtesy of WCCO-TV, CBS 4, Minnesota.


“These are the cases that keep me up at night because they are 100 percent preventable,” said Martin, a gun owner and stay-at-home mom, “and I will not be swayed from that belief.”

America’s kids

Whether homicide, suicide or accident, every four hours a child’s life was taken by a bullet during the 11-year period from 2002 to 2012. That’s the equivalent of the Sandy Hook massacre every three days.

More than 19,000 high school-aged students never got to walk across the stage and get a diploma.

“No gun law is going to change anything at this point,” Rauhouse said. “We make it about the guns and we’re not worried about our kids. People should be focusing on why gun violence exists and trying to prevent it from occurring.”

Other gun control activists argue that laws for gun storage need to be implemented.

“Gun-storage laws with teeth behind them would stop some of the gun deaths that happen in homes,” said Martin, of Parents Against Gun Violence. “It’s a really important piece of federal law that’s missing. Responsible gun owners do it already, it’s not an infringement of a Second Amendment right.”

There are currently 28 states and Washington D.C. with a child access prevention law, according to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. These laws impose criminal liability on adults who do not properly store their guns when children are in the house.

“The gun lobby is very powerful. Elected officials are out of step with what the general public wants,” said Gerry Hills, founder of Arizonans for Gun Safety. “Americans are not serious about protecting youths and preventing gun violence.”

[Boon Mee]

^
Right...

Got one of them linky-poos for that article?

[panama hat]

^
Right...

Got one of them linky-poos for that article?

Sorry, I forgot.

Seven US children are shot dead every day on average ?and we are as a country ignoring them?

At least 28,000 children and teens were killed by guns over an 11-year-period | GUN WARS: A News21 Investigation

[panama hat]

Now, just to make sure everything is above board, legally, that is:

Officials powerless to stop proposed anti-gay initiative

Over the decades, California has chiseled out some of its most colorful laws at the ballot box.

There have been proposed initiatives seeking to allow public school children be able to sing Christmas carols, to require drug testing of state legislators, to outlaw divorce and to divide California into six states.

But the proposed initiative submitted by a Huntington Beach attorney that would authorize the killing of gays and lesbians by "bullets to the head" — or "any other convenient method" — is testing the limits of the state's normally liberal attitude on putting even the most extreme ideas on the ballot if enough signatures are collected.

The proposed initiative has been met by a firestorm of anger, yet there appears to be nothing that can stop it from being given a formal name and advancing to the signature gathering process.

For a fee of $200, Matthew McLaughlin submitted what he called the Sodomite Suppression Act to the state attorney general's office, which has little choice but to give it a ballot-worthy name, summarize its effects and set the clock running for gathering ......

Officials powerless to stop proposed anti-gay initiative - LA Times

Land of the free . . .

[Cujo]

Now, just to make sure everything is above board, legally, that is:

Officials powerless to stop proposed anti-gay initiative

Over the decades, California has chiseled out some of its most colorful laws at the ballot box.

There have been proposed initiatives seeking to allow public school children be able to sing Christmas carols, to require drug testing of state legislators, to outlaw divorce and to divide California into six states.

But the proposed initiative submitted by a Huntington Beach attorney that would authorize the killing of gays and lesbians by "bullets to the head" — or "any other convenient method" — is testing the limits of the state's normally liberal attitude on putting even the most extreme ideas on the ballot if enough signatures are collected.

The proposed initiative has been met by a firestorm of anger, yet there appears to be nothing that can stop it from being given a formal name and advancing to the signature gathering process.

For a fee of $200, Matthew McLaughlin submitted what he called the Sodomite Suppression Act to the state attorney general's office, which has little choice but to give it a ballot-worthy name, summarize its effects and set the clock running for gathering ......

Officials powerless to stop proposed anti-gay initiative - LA Times

Land of the free . . .

So then it would be perfectly legal to walk up to some poof on the street and pop a cap in him. This must have some of the poofs and liberals apoplectic. I find it hillarious.