Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by OhOh

It is one source from a named individual/agency with some ability to gather evidence as opposed to your unamed witnesses or known propaganda agencies. One should also add, all with the ability to fabricate evidence. Same as other spy agencies.

The source is the Russian military who probably took the video when they were scouting which bits to bomb next.

I am suggesting there are other "stories" which may or may not be true, that's all.

Rather than just accepting this as a one off event try and gather the threads into a believable and provable story.

Bollocks, you're the top Putin sphincter licker and you believe every word without question.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

a warmongering, aggressively expansionistic and hypocritical left that has had a grip on the west

Jeezus Christ you can not make this shit up. You are a fucking absolute buffoon.

No flaming or abuse allowed. All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting.

Do you have any actual arguments to make, or just expletive-laden name-calling? Is that all you've got?!

Are you trying to suggest that the EU and NATO are not aggressively expansionistic?!







They (the EU and NATO actors) have proactively moved into the traditional Russian sphere of influence, and put military assets there.
They (the EU and NATO actors) have attempted to overthrow the Ukrainian state and put their own favoured government there, and split the country, instigating civil war and partition - an easily avoidable outcome (and by the way this is not being an apologist for the Russian or it's favoured Ukrainian government, but it is a point of international law, and strategic good sense).
NATO, along with placing miltary assets on Russia's frontier, are now planning the largest ever military exercise along Russia's borders.
NATO allies launch largest military exercise since end of Cold War in clear message to Russia | The Independent

The list of military adventures during left-wing governments in the west... Libya, the handling of Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, the handling events in other African states like Somalia, Sierra Leone, Rwanda, Zimbabwe, Uganda, Bosnia, Kosovo, and the EU and NATOs inertia at intervening in the collapse of Yugoslavia and reemergence of concentration camps and ethnic cleansing, was a catastrophic failure to act by EU and NATO states. The chaos left behind by these misadventures is appalling, the refugee crisis - the countless numbers crossing from failed states: Libya and Syria is a direct result of this failure to stay and finish the job. The Russians are committing atrocities, but it is disingenuous of the west to wash its hands of any responsibility for what is happening. They are essentially derogating from their duty of care to those people, and letting the Russian's take all the opprobrium that in fact should morally be shared by all members of the security council.

Hipocrisy? Well, the west feels it legitimate to intervene in states, post-cold-war: Ukraine, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Haiti, Colombia; but not legitimate for Russia to intervene in states: Ukraine, Syria, Georgia.

How many major American wars in the 20th century were entered into by Democrat (i.e.: left-wing) governments? World War I, II, Korea and Vietnam.
Democratic president Truman is the only world leader to use a nuclear bomb on a civilian population, is he not?

I repeat:
Do you have any actual arguments to make, or just expletive-laden name-calling? Is that all you've got?!

No flaming or abuse allowed. All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by OhOh

It is one source from a named individual/agency with some ability to gather evidence as opposed to your unamed witnesses or known propaganda agencies. One should also add, all with the ability to fabricate evidence. Same as other spy agencies.

The source is the Russian military who probably took the video when they were scouting which bits to bomb next.

I am suggesting there are other "stories" which may or may not be true, that's all.

Rather than just accepting this as a one off event try and gather the threads into a believable and provable story.

Bollocks, you're the top Putin sphincter licker and you believe every word without question.

I know what the word probably means. They were just shooting some RE adds for the Chinese to select an apartment.

Do I win a prize for being your No. 1TPSL - you heard it here first folks. You racking up the acronyms harry.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by OhOh

It is one source from a named individual/agency with some ability to gather evidence as opposed to your unamed witnesses or known propaganda agencies. One should also add, all with the ability to fabricate evidence. Same as other spy agencies.

The source is the Russian military who probably took the video when they were scouting which bits to bomb next.

I am suggesting there are other "stories" which may or may not be true, that's all.

Rather than just accepting this as a one off event try and gather the threads into a believable and provable story.

Bollocks, you're the top Putin sphincter licker and you believe every word without question.

I know what the word probably means. They were just shooting some RE adds for the Chinese to select an apartment.

Do I win a prize for being your No. 1TPSL - you heard it here first folks. You racking up the acronyms harry.

Er, you invented the acronym.

Derp.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

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The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a British-based war monitor, said the warplanes had struck several locations in Haas including an elementary and middle school, killing at least one teacher as well as the children.
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The thoroughly discredited Syrian Observatory for Human Rights operated by Osama Ali Suleiman who peddles his misinformation under the false name of Rami Abdel Rahman is a disenchanted Syrian who fled the country after being jailed three times. He has not lived in Syria for 15 years !

He offers no sources as reference and his Arabic website blamed Assad for an airstrike whilst his English website blamed the Russians for the same strike !

You have offered no video or war materiel evidence, only heresay from unreliable and prejudiced sources.

Please update your browser Harry Barracuda

Thank you
Most Sincerely

Another dribbling Putin apologist.

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Still you offer nothing credible...



" ...Al Jazeera has been called a propaganda outlet for the Qatari government and its foreign policy, by analysts and by news reporters, including former Al Jazeera reporters.

The network is sometimes perceived to have mainly Islamist perspectives, promoting the Muslim Brotherhood, and having a pro-Sunni and an anti-Shia bias in its reporting of regional issues. "




You offer nothing legitimate to substantiate your position ..only puerile attempts at insult.

Originally Posted by BelAir

Al Jazeera has been called a propaganda outlet for the Qatari government and its foreign policy

Regrettably, it proved itself exactly that during the ongoing Syrian rebellion (Saudi & Qatar are the main funders of the Sunni Islamist rebels, mostly foreign now). A great shame really- because it's coverage of the invasion of Iraq was second to none.

Even auntie beeb and the NYT are not above reproach. Nobody is.

Originally Posted by sabang

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Even auntie beeb and the NYT are not above reproach. Nobody is.

Heh yes, except for harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by BelAir

Heh yes, except for harrybarracuda

Read some more of the threads, harry has his opinions and will not tolerate any who disagree. He is normally polite, but he still posts shite

^^

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the top Putin sphincter licker

He projects alot too.

Originally Posted by OhOh

^^

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

OhOh is the top Putin sphincter licker

He's right too.

FTFY.

our next president, Fillon, is friend of Putin and wants to have Russia involved

He's out of control, Putin controlled the American elections to elect Trump.
His power knows no bounds.

Originally Posted by wasabi

He's out of control, Putin controlled the American elections to elect Trump.
His power knows no bounds.

It also demonstrates that the FBI and the CIA are witless compared to the FSB.

Oh My God, ^ we are all doomed Ruskies are brighter than our secret services who claim to protect us from bad Ruskie.

^ What inspired you to start posting in SC? You never did so before Drumpf was elected. Just curious.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by wasabi

He's out of control, Putin controlled the American elections to elect Trump.
His power knows no bounds.

It also demonstrates that the FBI and the CIA are witless compared to the FSB.

The KGB has always been smarter than the idiots and fools who populate the CIA and NSA

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ What inspired you to start posting in SC? You never did so before Drumpf was elected. Just curious.

I didn't notice before that it was the SPeakers corner but thanks for pointing it out.
The reason why I have started posting about Trump after the election results is this, I'm having fun, it's unreal how different this election was to all those before.
I was neutral upto the election date, mainly through the BBC propaganda machine that for 6 months constantly told Me not to care about the results of this election because the Democratics have it essentially sown up with a Hillary victory.
So I obeyed the BBC and chilled out already knowing the forgone result.
As we know it didn't turn out like the BBC said it should.
So it's very amusing for Me to enjoy writing about how Trump is so good and is going to do well.
Because the same BBC is still telling folks that DT is a calamity.
I am enjoying it all.
Wooooopy go Trump go, Man of the year. Ye ye ye, I love you ye ye ye.

Putin Named ‘Most Powerful’ for Fourth Straight Year

The world's most powerful person for four years running, Russia's president has exerted his country's influence in nearly every corner of the globe; from the motherland to Syria to the U.S. presidential elections, Putin continues to get what he wants. Unconstrained by conventional global norms, his reach has magnified in recent years. In 2016 Russian hackers were accused of tapping into email accounts owned by members of the U.S. Democratic Party in a bid to aid the campaign of Donald Trump, who has regularly praised Putin's leadership style. The Kremlin denies the charges, and President-elect Trump has also dismissed the possibility of outsiders tampering in the election, despite a reported CIA memo suggesting otherwise. Either way, with a likely ally entering the White House, Putin's power may go largely unchecked for years to come.

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Forbes Welcome

Originally Posted by misskit

Putin Named ‘Most Powerful’ for Fourth Straight Year

The world's most powerful person for four years running, Russia's president has exerted his country's influence in nearly every corner of the globe; from the motherland to Syria to the U.S. presidential elections, Putin continues to get what he wants. Unconstrained by conventional global norms, his reach has magnified in recent years. In 2016 Russian hackers were accused of tapping into email accounts owned by members of the U.S. Democratic Party in a bid to aid the campaign of Donald Trump, who has regularly praised Putin's leadership style. The Kremlin denies the charges, and President-elect Trump has also dismissed the possibility of outsiders tampering in the election, despite a reported CIA memo suggesting otherwise. Either way, with a likely ally entering the White House, Putin's power may go largely unchecked for years to come.

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Forbes Welcome

He deserves it, he's a dictator that rules one of the worlds superpowers with an iron fist. Poor Russians, he's bleeding them dry.

Putin my hero !!! we all love you, come to liberate us

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Putin my hero !!! we all love you, come to liberate us

Oh look butters has a man crush on a dictator who murders his political enemies with umbrella spikes laced with polonium.