Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by OhOh

POTUSE

President of the Unexceptional Shit Empire.

Harry claims he saw forensic on Russian hacks of Hillary emails

I call bull, since he won't have access to that kind of information, and Putin men wouldn't leave any trace that someone like Harry could read

Harry you poseur

Do you dream of sucking Putins three inch cock? He is a little shit barely 156 cm tall.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Do you dream of sucking Putins three inch cock?

It seems to be one of your favourites.

Hillary and all Americans, including bsnob, will soon be swallowing gizz from Putin 9'' cock

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Harry claims he saw forensic on Russian hacks of Hillary emails

I call bull, since he won't have access to that kind of information, and Putin men wouldn't leave any trace that someone like Harry could read

Harry you poseur

Which amply demonstrates that you know precisely jack shit about technology and what OSINT is out there.

You really aren't very bright at all, are you?

Aaaaw! Is America pissed of Russia is kicking ass with the US's creation? Isis.

Russia must be costing them a bleeding fortune in lost revenue!

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Aaaaw! Is America pissed of Russia is kicking ass with the US's creation? Isis.

Errrrrrr ...

Russia is doing what?

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Russia must be costing them a bleeding fortune in lost revenue!

Putins policies is costing Russia a fortune. With its financial situation Russia will collapse. They were at that point before, but Gorbatschow pulled the line at the last moment. Putin with his oversize ego is not capable to do that.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

will soon be swallowing gizz from Putin 9'' cock

You're obsessed with the idea, aren't you DraginAss?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Harry claims he saw forensic on Russian hacks of Hillary emails

I call bull, since he won't have access to that kind of information, and Putin men wouldn't leave any trace that someone like Harry could read

Harry you poseur

Which amply demonstrates that you know precisely jack shit about technology and what OSINT is out there.

You really aren't very bright at all, are you?

god, you are full of hot air, you silly pretentious sand pit cocksucker. You don't have access to that kind of information, and like I said you wouldn't understand the trace of them, if ever were left.

Russian and Chinese hackers don't leave trace, there is no credible forensic, only hints of sources. Anyone in heavy cybersecurity shit knows this. Your skills in Cybersecurity is to patch MS Essentials and run Norton Anti-Virus Update, you security poseur.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Harry claims he saw forensic on Russian hacks of Hillary emails

I call bull, since he won't have access to that kind of information, and Putin men wouldn't leave any trace that someone like Harry could read

Harry you poseur

Which amply demonstrates that you know precisely jack shit about technology and what OSINT is out there.

You really aren't very bright at all, are you?

god, you are full of hot air, you silly pretentious sand pit cocksucker. You don't have access to that kind of information, and like I said you wouldn't understand the trace of them, if ever were left.

Russian and Chinese hackers don't leave trace, there is no credible forensic, only hints of sources. Anyone in heavy cybersecurity shit knows this. Your skills in Cybersecurity is to patch MS Essentials and run Norton Anti-Virus Update, you security poseur.

Well that's three posts in a row when you've shown you have nothing of any use to contribute. Although in this case your complete lack of understanding of the subject matter is obviously a factor.

I hope the mods are keeping note.

https://teakdoor.com/members-only/169...e-butters.html (Can anyone find anything positive Butters/Dragonfly has contributed to this?)

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Russian and Chinese hackers don't leave trace

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Anyone in heavy cybersecurity shit knows this.

Completely clueless as always.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Although in this case your complete lack of understanding of the subject matter is obviously a factor.

right, because you making some outrageous claim you saw some Russian forensic, out of thin air, without any credible evidence whatsoever, is adding real content ? more like Bullshit content.

Is that how you define yourself and your worthwhile content, you pretentious Bullshit poseur ?

go fix me that printer, will you

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Although in this case your complete lack of understanding of the subject matter is obviously a factor.

right, because you making some outrageous claim you saw some Russian forensic, out of thin air, without any credible evidence whatsoever, is adding real content ? more like Bullshit content.

Is that how you define yourself and your worthwhile content, you pretentious Bullshit poseur ?

go fix me that printer, will you

Buttplug, you really need to learn to control yourself.

https://teakdoor.com/members-only/169...e-butters.html (Can anyone find anything positive Butters/Dragonfly has contributed to this?)

Harry, you should really learn how to stop being a complete wanker

fill that cock with sands for a taste of change,

Putin is the new man, learn to love him, no matter how hurts, you silly English twat

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

will soon be swallowing gizz from Putin 9'' cock

You're obsessed with the idea, aren't you DraginAss?

not as much as Harry and quite a few here. They keep referring to cocks everytime they have a chance.

Probably a small penis syndrome.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

will soon be swallowing gizz from Putin 9'' cock

You're obsessed with the idea, aren't you DraginAss?

not as much as Harry and quite a few here. They keep referring to cocks everytime they have a chance.

Probably a small penis syndrome.

Oh dear.

https://teakdoor.com/members-only/

There's an interesting spat going on at the moment between Russia and Belgium. Russia says Belgian fighter planes bombed part of Syria and killed some people. Belgium denied it and got a bit peeved at the claim. Russia called in the Belgian ambassador and handed him their proof.


Russia summons Belgian envoy in row over Syria air strike | Reuters


Russia summons Belgian envoy in row over Syria air strike

The Russian Foreign Ministry said on Friday it had summoned the Belgian ambassador to complain about what it said was Belgium's "stubborn denial" of allegations that Belgian military jets had killed civilians in an air strike near Aleppo in Syria.

The Russian Defence Ministry and the Russian Foreign Ministry say two Belgian F-16 jets bombed a settlement in Aleppo province on Oct. 18 and killed six civilians, a charge Belgium says is false.

Moscow has held up the alleged incident as an example of what it complains are the West's double standards when it comes to condemning air strikes on civilians in Syria, something the Russian air force has regularly been accused of but denies.

The Russian Foreign Ministry said it had summoned Alex Van Meeuwen, Belgium's ambassador to Moscow, to hand over what it said was Moscow's evidence backing up its accusations and to express its disbelief over what it called the "continuing stubborn Belgian denial" of the bombing allegations.

Belgian Defence Minister Steven Vandeput said in a statement on Thursday that Russia had fabricated the evidence against his country to falsely accuse the Belgian air force.

He demanded Moscow issue a formal retraction of what he said was "a groundless and unsubstantiated allegation."

And an RT article on the same topic.

https://www.rt.com/news/363640-russi...um-airstrikes/


Moscow summons Belgian ambassador, presents data on F-16s bombing of Syrian civilians


Russia’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement that it has presented Alex Van Meeuwen, Belgium’s ambassador in Moscow, with evidence proving the involvement of Belgian Air Force jets in a recent airstrike on a Syrian village that killed four civilians.

The Russian Foreign Ministry summoned Van Meeuwen on Friday.

“During the conversation with Van Meeuwen, First Deputy Foreign Minister Vladimir Titov said that Moscow was puzzled by Belgium’s ongoing denial of the fact that the Belgian Air Force carried out an airstrike that killed civilians on the outskirts of Aleppo on October 18 of this year,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

“The Belgian diplomat [Van Meeuwen] was presented with evidence showing involvement of the Belgian Air Force in the airstrike on the village of Hassadjek. It was also mentioned that detailed info on the technical aspects of the flight of the two F-16 jets had been given to Belgium’s military attaché in Moscow by the Russian Ministry of Defense.”

"This [Friday] afternoon, the Russian Federation Ministry of Defense handed over to the Defense Attaché of the Belgian Embassy in Moscow the alleged evidence designed to show that F-16 jets of the Belgian Air Force are responsible for the airstrike near Aleppo in the early hours of October 18, which resulted in several deaths among civilians. This alleged evidence is a map with the route of the flight allegedly made by Belgian aircraft," a communique posted on the Belgian Ministry of Defense website said.

"The numbers of the identification friend-or-foe system, which are marked on the map and which, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, are assigned to the Belgian aircraft, are incorrect and in no way are the numbers of the Belgian Air Force aircraft," the document says.

Brussels is using “worthless excuses” in an attempt to divert public attention from the airstrike on the Syrian village, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov said on Friday.

"Attempts by the Belgian Defense Minister [Steven Vandeput] to divert public attention from the tragedy, using obviously worthless excuses, causes profound confusion. It speaks of either Mr Vandeput’s misunderstanding of the document provided by Russia, or the desire of the US Armed Forces Central Command, responsible for providing targeting data to aircraft of the international coalition in Syria, to evade responsibility for the death of six Syrian civilians, killed in the airstrike,” Konashenkov told journalists.

Belgian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Didier Vanderhasselt told Interfax on Friday the ministry is not yet aware of the content of its ambassador’s conversation with Russia’s deputy foreign minister, and is waiting for the results of the meeting. “We maintain dialogue with the Russian side, we need to know exactly what was said at this meeting,” he added.

"We are also surprised by the fact that we have not been provided with the data before," Vanderhasselt is cited as saying by Interfax. "Our military gave all the explanations to the military attaché of the Russian Embassy in Belgium yesterday [Thursday] morning," he added.

Russian Defense Ministry spokesman General Igor Konashenkov said on Thursday that Brussels’ obstinate denial of involvement shows that Belgian Defense Minister Steven Vandeput is either “deliberately deceiving people in Belgium and around the world, or his subordinates and the Americans are lying to the leadership of Belgium.”

The airstrike on the village of Hassadjek in Syria’s Aleppo province reportedly killed six civilians on Tuesday.

According to Konashenkov, the two Belgian F-16s were immediately identified by Russian and Syrian air defense radar and all of their movements were tracked.

“Every aircraft type has a unique identifiable signature,” he noted.

The warplanes, which had flown in from the Muwaffaq Salti Airbase in Jordan, delivered their night strike on the village at 00:35 GMT, about two hours after takeoff, leaving six civilians dead and four injured, the general said. Russia tracked the flight of the two planes from Jordan to Iraq and Syria, as well as their meeting with a US KC-135 tanker, which refueled them over the Deir ez-Zor area, Konashenkov said, adding that the US-led coalition hadn’t informed Russia about the Belgian flights.

Civilians probably equals government militia.

FOUR years ago Mitt Romney, then a Republican candidate, said that Russia was America’s “number-one geopolitical foe”. Barack Obama, among others, mocked this hilarious gaffe: “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back, because the cold war’s been over for 20 years,” scoffed the president. How times change. With Russia hacking the American election, presiding over mass slaughter in Syria, annexing Crimea and talking casually about using nuclear weapons, Mr Romney’s view has become conventional wisdom. Almost the only American to dissent from it is today’s Republican nominee, Donald Trump.

Every week Vladimir Putin, Russia’s president, finds new ways to scare the world. Recently he moved nuclear-capable missiles close to Poland and Lithuania. This week he sent an aircraft-carrier group down the North Sea and the English Channel. He has threatened to shoot down any American plane that attacks the forces of Syria’s despot, Bashar al-Assad. Russia’s UN envoy has said that relations with America are at their tensest in 40 years. Russian television news is full of ballistic missiles and bomb shelters. “Impudent behaviour” might have “nuclear consequences”, warns Dmitry Kiselev, Mr Putin’s propagandist-in-chief—who goes on to cite Mr Putin’s words that “If a fight is inevitable, you have to strike first.”


As our special report this week sets out, Russia confronts grave problems in its economy, politics and society. Its population is ageing and is expected to shrink by 10% by 2050. An attempt to use the windfall from the commodity boom to modernise the state and its economy fell flat. Instead Mr Putin has presided over a huge increase in government: between 2005 and 2015, the share of Russian GDP that comes from public spending and state-controlled firms rose from 35% to 70%. Having grown by 7% a year at the start of Mr Putin’s reign, the economy is now shrinking. Sanctions are partly to blame, but corruption and a fall in the price of oil matter more. The Kremlin decides who gets rich and stays that way. Vladimir Yevtushenkov, a Russian tycoon, was detained for three months in 2014. When he emerged, he had surrendered his oil company.

Mr Putin has sought to offset vulnerability at home with aggression abroad. With their mass protests after election-rigging in 2011-12, Russia’s sophisticated urban middle classes showed that they yearn for a modern state. When the oil price was high, Mr Putin could resist them by buying support. Now he shores up his power by waging foreign wars and using his propaganda tools to whip up nationalism. He is wary of giving any ground to Western ideas because Russia’s political system, though adept at repression, is brittle. Institutions that would underpin a prosperous Russia, such as the rule of law, free media, democracy and open competition, pose an existential threat to Mr Putin’s rotten state.

For much of his time in office Mr Obama has assumed that, because Russia is a declining power, he need not pay it much heed. Yet a weak, insecure, unpredictable country with nuclear weapons is dangerous—more so, in some ways, even than the Soviet Union was. Unlike Soviet leaders after Stalin, Mr Putin rules alone, unchecked by a Politburo or by having witnessed the second world war’s devastation. He could remain in charge for years to come. Age is unlikely to mellow him.

Mr Obama increasingly says the right things about Putinism—he sounded reasonably tough during a press conference this week—but Mr Putin has learned that he can defy America and come out on top. Mild Western sanctions make ordinary Russians worse off, but they also give the people an enemy to unite against, and Mr Putin something to blame for the economic damage caused by his own policies.

What should the West do? Time is on its side. A declining power needs containing until it is eventually overrun by its own contradictions—even as the urge to lash out remains.

Because the danger is of miscalculation and unchecked escalation, America must continue to engage in direct talks with Mr Putin even, as today, when the experience is dispiriting. Success is not measured by breakthroughs and ceasefires—welcome as those would be in a country as benighted as Syria—but by lowering the chances of a Russian blunder.

Nuclear miscalculation would be the worst kind of all. Hence the talks need to include nuclear-arms control as well as improved military-to-military relations, in the hope that nuclear weapons can be kept separate from other issues, as they were in Soviet times. That will be hard because, as Russia declines, it will see its nuclear arsenal as an enduring advantage.

Another area of dispute will be Russia’s near abroad. Ukraine shows how Mr Putin seeks to destabilise countries as a way to stop them drifting out of Russia’s orbit (see article). America’s next president must declare that, contrary to what Mr Trump has said, if Russia uses such tactics against a NATO member, such as Latvia or Estonia, the alliance will treat it as an attack on them all. Separately the West needs to make it clear that, if Russia engages in large-scale aggression against non-NATO allies, such as Georgia and Ukraine, it reserves the right to arm them.

Above all the West needs to keep its head. Russian interference in America’s presidential election merits measured retaliation. But the West can withstand such “active measures”. Russia does not pretend to offer the world an attractive ideology or vision. Instead its propaganda aims to discredit and erode universal liberal values by nurturing the idea that the West is just as corrupt as Russia, and that its political system is just as rigged. It wants to create a divided West that has lost faith in its ability to shape the world. In response, the West should be united and firm.

The threat from Russia | The Economist

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Civilians probably equals government militia.

Trust harry to put the stupid into stupefying, what a lame reply.

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Civilians probably equals government militia.

Trust harry to put the stupid into stupefying, what a lame reply.

Only the Russians are claiming this was a civilian target.

You're the idiot that swallows their nonsense.

(Not the only one, obviously).