How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

**DrB0b** · 25-11-2015, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by panama hat

What will Vlad do with the Turks . . . an actual country with soldiers, planes etc . . .

He will shout a little bit. Then he will give some money and weapons to the Kurds. Turkey will pretend he didn't. Everything will then go back to the way it was before.

Guys, relax. Sometimes I think TD posters watch too many movies.

**bsnub** · 29-11-2015, 06:06 PM

At least 40 people were killed and scores wounded on Sunday in a suspected Russian air strike on a crowded marketplace in Idlib province, activists said. The early morning attack occurred in the town of Ariha, 15km south of Idlib city. Local news channel Ariha al-Youm reported cluster bombs were used in the raid by a Russian fighter jet.

The pro-opposition Orient TV also reported an initial death toll of 40.
However, Rami Abdulrahman, director of the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, put the death toll much higher, saying at least 60 people were killed and wounded in the attack.

Officials at the Russian defence ministry could not immediately be reached for comment.

The Russian air force has conducted air strikes in support of President Bashar al-Assad since September 30.

Ariha is located in Idlib province, which is controlled by rebel groups including the al-Qaeda-linked Nusra Front.

The province is not a stronghold of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group that controls wide areas of eastern Syria.

The Syrian military withdrew from Ariha in May as an alliance of rebel groups - including Nusra Front - advanced in Idlib in an offensive that resulted in the entire province falling into rebel hands.

Russian air strike hits busy market in Idlib province - Al Jazeera English

**OhOh** · 30-11-2015, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by bsnub

At least 40 people were killed and scores wounded on Sunday in a suspected Russian air strike on a crowded marketplace in Idlib province, activists said

Terrorists and their squeezes, aren't they the targets which every coalition is trying to eradicate? Unless of course they are "moderate" terrorists and their squeezes, then it's , "did they have their black capes on and AK47's on their shoulders" if so legitimate, heaven forbid they left them in their white Toyota trucks.

Flagellates to release the woe for the terrorists.

**panama hat** · 30-11-2015, 03:09 PM

How tough is Putin?

So tough that he has disallowed any Turkish football players to be recruited into any Russian team the next transfer window.

Wow. Tough.

Makes Obama look downright masculine (thankfully)

**Looper** · 30-11-2015, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

At least 40 people were killed and scores wounded on Sunday in a suspected Russian air strike on a crowded marketplace in Idlib province

Originally Posted by bsnub

Local news channel Ariha al-Youm reported cluster bombs were used

The Russians will liven things up in Syria. A traditional rustic approach to bombing the enemy. Refreshingly random after these tediously accurate American gorgon-stare remote-controlled drone missiles.

**Bettyboo** · 30-11-2015, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Looper

Refreshingly random after these tediously accurate American gorgon-stare remote-controlled drone missiles.

Any type of honest analysis quickly finds the accuracy of the drones and/or any other bombs as very much less than the propaganda agency's lists.

**harrybarracuda** · 30-11-2015, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by Looper

Refreshingly random after these tediously accurate American gorgon-stare remote-controlled drone missiles.

Any type of honest analysis quickly finds the accuracy of the drones and/or any other bombs as very much less than the propaganda agency's lists.

I think they are generally accurate, but the intel that's directing them isn't always up to scratch.

**MrG** · 07-12-2015, 07:53 AM

An act strictly for Russian public consumption.
I wonder of Putin directed the seaman to take his shirt off too.

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B]Turkey angered by rocket-brandishing on Russian naval ship passing Istanbul [/B]

REUTERS/Murad Sezer Turkey accused Russia of a "provocation" on Sunday after a serviceman on the deck of a Russian naval ship allegedly held a rocket launcher on his shoulder while the vessel passed through Istanbul.

Relations have deteriorated sharply since Turkey last week became the first NATO member in more than half a century to down a Russian plane, which it said had violated its airspace while flying sorties over Syria. The pilot was killed.

The NTV news channel broadcast photographs that it said showed a serviceman brandishing a rocket launcher on the deck of the landing ship Caesar Kunikov as it passed on Saturday through the Bosphorus Strait, which bisects the city of Istanbul. It said the ship was believed to be en route to Syria.

"For a Russian soldier to display a rocket launcher or something similar while passing on a Russian warship is a provocation," Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu told reporters, according to the Hurriyet news site. "If we perceive a threatening situation, we will give the necessary response."

The Bosphorus offers the only passage to the world's oceans for the Russian Black Sea fleet. A World War One-era treaty obliges Turkey to allow all ships to pass during peacetime.

Turkey had considered Russia a strategic partner as its main energy supplier, despite deep differences over Syria. But since Turkey shot the plane down, Moscow has introduced economic sanctions including a ban on Turkish foods and other products worth as much as $1 billion.

NTV said three NATO frigates with Canadian, Spanish and Portuguese flags had been moored in Istanbul as the Caesar Kunikov passed through. (Reporting by Ayla Jean Yackley; Editing by Kevin Liffey)

**Dragonfly** · 07-12-2015, 01:48 PM

Turkey is completely idiotic,

the reason nobody is saying anything about their rogue attitude and silly acts is because they are a "utitity" in NATO and in the fight against illegal immigration

**Neverna** · 07-12-2015, 02:21 PM

Turkey seems keen to expand the war.

**Dragonfly** · 07-12-2015, 03:03 PM

a tradition for them, and a ticking bomb for NATO

**OhOh** · 07-12-2015, 06:14 PM

One wonders what Turkey considers all those guns and missiles on all naval warships which pass through the strait are for.

**thaimeme** · 07-12-2015, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Turkey is completely idiotic,

the reason nobody is saying anything about their rogue attitude and silly acts is because they are a "utitity" in NATO and in the fight against illegal immigration

Wondering if they might appear so tough if they didn't have the false guise of security as a NATO member...[they've a green light]

Remembering the Turkey government's not pretty past/present with their neighbors of "lesser" ethnic persuasions, less the memory of the Ottoman period.

**Dragonfly** · 08-12-2015, 01:43 AM

time to bomb Turkey,

**OhOh** · 08-12-2015, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

time to bomb Turkey,

That would give the crusader coalition an excuse to double up on attacking the P4+1. Not legally but the sheeple would be led.

Time to bomb any countries forces in, or firing missiles/mortars/artillery/dropping bombs into, a country without the current governments permission.

In other news, it appears that Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London and thought of as a step in for the Tory leadership, announced it would be a good idea for the crusader coalition to join the Syrian Governments actions against ISIS et al.

https://www.rt.com/uk/324959-boris-j...-syria-allies/

"Britain must join forces with Syrian President Bashar Assad and Russian President Vladimir Putin to defeat Islamic State (formerly ISIS/ISIL), London Mayor Boris Johnson wrote in his weekly newspaper column. "

**harrybarracuda** · 08-12-2015, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

time to bomb Turkey,

That would give the crusader coalition an excuse to double up on attacking the P4+1. Not legally but the sheeple would be led.

What the fuck are you babbling on about?

Why would Russia attack the fellow members of the UNSC?

**thaimeme** · 08-12-2015, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

time to bomb Turkey,

That would give the crusader coalition an excuse to double up on attacking the P4+1. Not legally but the sheeple would be led.

Time to bomb any countries forces in, or firing missiles/mortars/artillery/dropping bombs into, a country without the current governments permission.

In other news, it appears that Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London and thought of as a step in for the Tory leadership, announced it would be a good idea for the crusader coalition to join the Syrian Governments actions against ISIS et al.

https://www.rt.com/uk/324959-boris-j...-syria-allies/

"Britain must join forces with Syrian President Bashar Assad and Russian President Vladimir Putin to defeat Islamic State (formerly ISIS/ISIL), London Mayor Boris Johnson wrote in his weekly newspaper column. "

Must be nice to make up new rules and general shit to fit the current profitable imperial surge - next week a wag the dog/false flag scenario.

It's all so convenient.

**bsnub** · 08-12-2015, 09:05 PM

I see the typical Putin cock sucking is going on in this thread. Carry on. Sorry I distracted you by turning the light on.

**OhOh** · 09-12-2015, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why would Russia attack the fellow members of the UNSC?

**sabang** · 09-12-2015, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

I see the typical Putin cock sucking is going on in this thread.

Not sure your nation is even worthy to fellate him. You support Islamic terrorists.

**harrybarracuda** · 09-12-2015, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why would Russia attack the fellow members of the UNSC?

Yes you are, but answer the question.

**MrG** · 09-12-2015, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by bsnub

I see the typical Putin cock sucking is going on in this thread.

Not sure your nation is even worthy to fellate him. You support Islamic terrorists.

Are you referring to US relations with Saudi Arabia?

**thaimeme** · 09-12-2015, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by bsnub

I see the typical Putin cock sucking is going on in this thread.

Not sure your nation is even worthy to fellate him. You support Islamic terrorists.

Are you referring to US relations with Saudi Arabia?

..plus ISIS, ISL, Al-Qaeda, Hamas, PLO, Syrian Govt, Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Iraqi underground, AQAP [Yemen], Taliban, Al-Shabaab [Somalia], Ansar al-Sharia [Libya], etc, etc....

And a very rich history thereof.
The Yanks do keep themselves busy straddling the fence - can't decipher the good guys from the bad guys.

**MrG** · 09-12-2015, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by MrG

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by bsnub

I see the typical Putin cock sucking is going on in this thread.

Not sure your nation is even worthy to fellate him. You support Islamic terrorists.

Are you referring to US relations with Saudi Arabia?

..plus ISIS, ISL, Al-Qaeda, Hamas, PLO, Syrian Govt, Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Iraqi underground, AQAP [Yemen], Taliban, Al-Shabaab [Somalia], Ansar al-Sharia [Libya], etc, etc....

And a very rich history thereof.
The Yanks do keep themselves busy straddling the fence - can't decipher the good guys from the bad guys.

Won't argue with it, but we know what side you stand on when push comes to shove, you big talking....whatever you are.

**OhOh** · 11-12-2015, 10:03 AM

The French and the Italians appear to be questioning the illegal sanctions imposed on Russia. Look out for more "ISIS terrorism" in those countries.

https://www.rt.com/news/325537-frenc...ctions-russia/

"A French lawmaker has presented a draft resolution to the country’s parliament, which is calling for the lifting of the anti-Russian sanctions. The document denounces the sanctions as ‘ineffective’ and questions their legality.

"These sanctions, which will only push the Russians to reorient their trade, are detrimental to sustainable economic relations between France and Russia. If the sanctions last any longer, French companies will end up suffering more than Russia," the document reads.

The resolution also questions the legality of the sanctions targeting individuals claiming that they are incompatible with Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights that envisages the right for fair trial for violation of civil law.

"Such sanctions raise a series of questions, especially regarding the legality of such measures. Indeed, who can claim the right to create a list of citizens and applying personal sanctions against them without questioning, without having an opportunity to defend themselves and even have a lawyer," the draft bill says.

Many Italian politicians and businessmen see anti-Russian sanctions as counterproductive, according to Fabio Massimo Castaldo, a member of the European Parliament from the Italian Five Star Movement party. “Extension of sanctions is useless … it has no sense,” he told RT, adding that Europe “needs cooperation with Russia” and “a real solution for Syria” is not possible without Russian diplomacy."

Many here will deride the use of law, their preferred option is listening and nodding along with MSM like stupid asses.

Brute force is their main weapon.

Maybe a crop of gonads is ripening in Europe.

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