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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    China is not capable of being a global leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    o you think the 21st century will be the age of pluralism?
    Far from it. Finite resources will be the next battlefield. You will be lucky to get a drink of water without paying.

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    Okay I see that the question is too difficult for you, let me put it this way.

    If the current world order has the dominant nations in this order:

    1. USA
    2. China
    3. EU
    4. Russia
    5. India

    Which of those will be in the number 1 position in 20 years time?

    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Okay I see that the question is too difficult for you, let me put it this way.

    If the current world order has the dominant nations in this order:

    1. USA
    2. China
    3. EU
    4. Russia
    5. India

    Which of those will be in the number 1 position in 20 years time?

    Depends on how the leadership goes, if it follows the trend of the last eight years the U.S.will not even be on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    o you think the 21st century will be the age of pluralism?
    Far from it. Finite resources will be the next battlefield. You will be lucky to get a drink of water without paying.
    You already pay for a drink of water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
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    o you think the 21st century will be the age of pluralism?
    Far from it. Finite resources will be the next battlefield. You will be lucky to get a drink of water without paying.
    You already pay for a drink of water.
    Nothing up their sleeves....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
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    o you think the 21st century will be the age of pluralism?
    Far from it. Finite resources will be the next battlefield. You will be lucky to get a drink of water without paying.
    You already pay for a drink of water.
    Not everyone does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Do you remember now..?
    Neo,
    Go back to post 1705 or a few posts before. You claimed that International Law was all torn up because of what happened in 2001. Now you claim that 9/11 tore up International Law? And accuse me of being drunk for not putting the two together. Was that a joke I missed?

    Yes, the events of 9/11 occurred to me, I just never figured anyone would be so dim as to try and connect it with the demise of International Law.

    Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
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    You are a supporter of North Korea are you not?
    what's wrong with NK ? it's definitely less rogue than the current US, at least they don't start wars they can't win everywhere
    Is it really true, DraginAss, you are a supporter of North Korea. Oh, what a rich territory to mine.
    Good times ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    I didn't see any Russian planes in the video and nobody in the footage mentioned Russian planes. The "Bashar Assad Crimes Archive" gave the video the title "Insane attack by Russian warplanes on the town of Hyan, in Aleppo". Maybe it was Russian planes, maybe Syrian,maybe American.
    Translation: "I refuse to accept that Russian planes are bombing civilians and FSA rebels because my hot crush Putin says they're not".
    I am sure they are bombing FSA rebels. Why wouldn't they? I also have no doubt that there are some civilian casualties. I'm sure that any side that has dropped bombs or missiles in Syria has killed civilians. That's war for you. That's why a diplomatic solution should be the top priority and joining to defeat IS also a top priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
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    I didn't see any Russian planes in the video and nobody in the footage mentioned Russian planes.
    So you place the burden of proof to absurd levels. You expect people who are being bombed to not only film the act but somehow aim their cameras to the sky and try and catch a plane with markings before you will believe it? You sir are the personification of an idiot.

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    I can tell you one thing it was not American planes. They are not crossing airspace with the Russians. The Russians are bombing almost exclusively in the western side of the country. The US in the east where the bulk of IS is located.
    Even if it was a Russian plane, what's the significance of that video? Some (a few?) people were killed or injured? Some (a few?) civilians were injured? A hospital was bombed? A hundred women and children were killed? What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Even if it was a Russian plane, what's the significance of that video? Some (a few?) people were killed or injured? Some (a few?) civilians were injured? A hospital was bombed? A hundred women and children were killed? What?
    It's all good till it happens to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Even if it was a Russian plane, what's the significance of that video? Some (a few?) people were killed or injured? Some (a few?) civilians were injured? A hospital was bombed? A hundred women and children were killed? What?
    It's all good till it happens to you.
    It's not good at all for anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Yes, the events of 9/11 occurred to me, I just never figured anyone would be so dim as to try and connect it with the demise of International Law.
    I won't bother to try and respond to that, it's simply just worth reading again MrG

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    is MrG another braindead American like snub ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    I didn't see any Russian planes in the video and nobody in the footage mentioned Russian planes.
    So you place the burden of proof to absurd levels. You expect people who are being bombed to not only film the act but somehow aim their cameras to the sky and try and catch a plane with markings before you will believe it? You sir are the personification of an idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
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    I can tell you one thing it was not American planes. They are not crossing airspace with the Russians. The Russians are bombing almost exclusively in the western side of the country. The US in the east where the bulk of IS is located.
    Even if it was a Russian plane, what's the significance of that video? Some (a few?) people were killed or injured? Some (a few?) civilians were injured? A hospital was bombed? A hundred women and children were killed? What?
    You seem to like question marks but I'll answer the question you should be asking.

    There will be no united, inclusive, Syrian government until Assad is gone.

    There is little chance of it happening in the near future if he does go, but it's the best chance for peace.

    And while you disregard the hundreds of thousands of Syrian deaths because of his actions, the millions of remaining Syrians, both in and out of Syria, don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
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    Originally Posted by MrG China's claim of territorial waters in what are long established international waters is illegitimate
    NEO RESPONDS
    I agree that it's illegitimate, the boundaries of international waters cannot be disputed. However the rulebook for international legitimacy has you must agree been torn up since 2001. Not saying two wrongs make a right, but if you want to consider it's legitimacy it has to be in a current, not historical, context.
    You disappoint me, Neo. I thought you had it in you to be an intelligent poster.
    There is the quote above.
    Please tell me how the attack on the World Trade Center has changed the historical context and quit trying to dodge it with feigned impatience. I'm embarrassed for you.
    Last edited by MrG; 02-11-2015 at 02:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
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    Even if it was a Russian plane, what's the significance of that video? Some (a few?) people were killed or injured? Some (a few?) civilians were injured? A hospital was bombed? A hundred women and children were killed? What?
    It's all good till it happens to you.
    It's not good at all for anyone.
    Agreed.
    I was referring to the casual use of "...a few...".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    I'm embarrassed for you.
    Read it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Yes, the events of 9/11 occurred to me, I just never figured anyone would be so dim as to try and connect it with the demise of International Law.
    If you tell me you can't see a chain of events since 9/11 that has eroded the value of international law then I'm just going to accept that is your position. I'm not going to haul over 15 years of US foreign policy. But I'll give you one example: Extraordinary Rendition. The reason I simply said 2001 rather than 9/11 is because I didn't want open that particular can of worms on this thread. I assumed that 2001 would be significant in itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Even if it was a Russian plane, what's the significance of that video? Some (a few?) people were killed or injured? Some (a few?) civilians were injured? A hospital was bombed? A hundred women and children were killed? What?
    It's all good till it happens to you.
    It's not good at all for anyone.
    Agreed.
    I was referring to the casual use of "...a few...".
    I was referring to the content of the video posted, not the whole conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    I didn't see any Russian planes in the video and nobody in the footage mentioned Russian planes.
    So you place the burden of proof to absurd levels. You expect people who are being bombed to not only film the act but somehow aim their cameras to the sky and try and catch a plane with markings before you will believe it? You sir are the personification of an idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
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    I can tell you one thing it was not American planes. They are not crossing airspace with the Russians. The Russians are bombing almost exclusively in the western side of the country. The US in the east where the bulk of IS is located.
    Even if it was a Russian plane, what's the significance of that video? Some (a few?) people were killed or injured? Some (a few?) civilians were injured? A hospital was bombed? A hundred women and children were killed? What?
    You seem to like question marks but I'll answer the question you should be asking.

    There will be no united, inclusive, Syrian government until Assad is gone.

    There is little chance of it happening in the near future if he does go, but it's the best chance for peace.

    And while you disregard the hundreds of thousands of Syrian deaths because of his actions, the millions of remaining Syrians, both in and out of Syria, don't.
    You didn't post the video so the questions weren't directed at you. But it's still nice to see you have no answers.

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    ^ I love how you clowns like to side step facts when they do not fit your agenda. I have posted this article three times and not one of you propagandists has responded to it. It is loaded with sources and citations.

    Four Syrian hospitals bombed since Russian airstrikes began, doctors say | World news | The Guardian

    But you need video..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    If you tell me you can't see a chain of events since 9/11 that has eroded the value of international law then I'm just going to accept that is your position.
    Well, progress; you've gone from the rule book on international law being "torn up" since 9/11 to "eroded".
    OK, fine. I'm not going to embarrass you with it anymore. But expecting to connect the 9/11...rendetion... and international law is to expect someone to connect the associations in your head. Loose associations at that.
    Rendition was going on long before 9/11 by both the US (numerous failed attempts on Castro) and Russia, (can't remember the Russian spy the Putin knocked off with radiation) and the killing of Iranian scientists by the Mossad.

    If China thinks Internaional Law doesn't matter, they can tell it to the judge.
    The rule book is still intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG
    can't remember the Russian spy the Putin knocked off with radiation
    Alexander Litvinenko

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    You already pay for a drink of water.
    No I don't. I pay for the convenience of having it pumped to my house. If I wanted to fetch my own water I could do that for free.

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