Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

US is losing its influence everywhere, even in Europe

Eventually Russia could join the EU once we remove the moaning Brits,

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

US is losing its influence everywhere, even in Europe

Eventually Russia could join the EU once we remove the moaning Brits,

Have you ever read 1984?

Originally Posted by Neverna

Are you saying that you don't think Vladimir Putin is dangerous?

When did I say that?

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Are you saying that you don't think Vladimir Putin is dangerous?

When did I say that?

You claim that the offensive capability of Russia is weak and inneffective compared to that of China, UK and US..

you also claim that;

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy
Russia is Russia, uneducated peasants forced to carry a gun without any knowledge using it - exept elite units Russia has are about the best, but small in numbers.

So how can Putin be dangerous, if his forces are so weak..?

Originally Posted by Neo

You claim that the offensive capability of Russia is weak and inneffective compared to that of China, UK and US..

I made it perfectly clear Putin is dangerous, but not a superpower.

In what way dangerous..?

Or Syria

So you don't think Putin is dangerous...

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Are you saying that you don't think Vladimir Putin is dangerous?

When did I say that?

Originally Posted by Neo

So you don't think Putin is dangerous...

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Are you saying that you don't think Vladimir Putin is dangerous?

When did I say that?

No, Putin and Russia is a great power, so he is dangerous if he chooses to be, not a global power anymore though. I wish he bombed anti-isis though, would do him great of good.

I have said it before, I say it again, i would rather take notice of Putin before the other world leaders, like Obama etc. Listen when he addresses other leaders, he makes sence

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

but not a superpower.

Anybody who refuses to kowtow to the crusader coalition is a superpower.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Eventually Russia could join the EU once we remove the moaning Brits,

Entry to the EEU is open to all, and no secret agreements to sign. Take a look at it equal partners. Take a look at who runs the EU and their "democratic" standards.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Or Syria

Why would Russia want Syria.

Look at Russia territory on a map. Nope they have enough land thank you

Look at Russian reserves of wealth. Abundant natural resources, Food, Water, Oil and Gas, Industrial Capacity, Democratic Government, well educated population, the ability to sign contracts with multi national companies and not renege on them .........

A democratic country presently Presided over by the LORD. Compare his performance during his tenure against others.

Syria will add to that?

The LORD accuses the POTUSE of being "unconstructive and apparently shows a lack of will to negotiate".

https://www.rt.com/news/318727-putin...ssia-dialogue/

Putin: I don't get how US can criticize Russian op in Syria if it refuses dialogue





"Washington’s decision to obstruct Russia’s call for diplomatic engagement on Syria is unconstructive and apparently shows a lack of will to negotiate, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

“I don’t really understand how our American partners can criticize Russia’s counterterrorism effort in Syria while refusing direct dialogue on the all-important issue of political settlement,” Putin explained.

Putin was commenting on the refusal by the Obama administration to receive a Russian delegation headed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev to discuss the differences the two nations have on the Syrian crisis. The US said it would not talk unless Russia followed Washington’s lead and stopped helping the Syrian government of President Bashar Assad.

"I believe this position to be unconstructive. The weakness of this position is apparently based on a lack of agenda. It seems they have nothing to discuss,” Putin said at a meeting with the Kazakhstan president in Astana.

He added that by obstructing Russia’s invitation to negotiate the US undermines itself, as it voices criticism of Russia’s actions in Syria, but doesn’t seek ways to resolve its concerns."

Originally Posted by OhOh

"I believe this position to be unconstructive. The weakness of this position is apparently based on a lack of agenda. It seems they have nothing to discuss,” Putin said at a meeting with the Kazakhstan president in Astana.

that's basically sum it up,

The US wants everyone to do as they say, bow to their "superiority". Thank fuck Putin is showing an alternative.

we can only hope that the US will get humiliated again in the Syria conflict with Russia coming out victorious.

The US policies in the last few decades have been beyond repairable, and it seems that only the Chinese and Russians are going to be viable alternatives for the world police.

The EU is all fucked up at the moment, above all with the treacherous British in it.

Why would the US (or anyone else) sit down and give genocidal dictator Assad a free pass?

You're all being very silly.

All Russia has to do is TELL Assad to fuck off to Teheran and ask ALL Syrians (not just the Alawites) to participate in forming a new government.

I'm fairly certain that both the Alawites and Syrian moderates would agree that fighting IS is a good thing, and they'd be better at it working together.

Nothing will get solved with Assad still in power. Putin knows that, so he knows he can throw these stupid offers out there and pretend he has the Syrian peoples' best interests at heart.

You're pretty dense if you believe otherwise.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why would the US (or anyone else) sit down and give genocidal dictator Assad a free pass?

because they do for others like SA etc... double standard ? understand that word ?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Why would the US (or anyone else) sit down and give genocidal dictator Assad a free pass?

It's not about Assad and you know it, if it was a straightforward internal uprising as in the beginning then being so shortsighted could be justified... But the issue here that leads Putin to be involved is the US/Israel/Saudi axis hijacking the rebellion by enabling death squads to enter Syria, to further erode stability in the region and advance the hegemony of the western military industrial complex.

You're all being very silly.

Really Harry...

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why would the US (or anyone else) sit down and give genocidal dictator Assad a free pass?

because they do for others like SA etc... double standard ? understand that word ?

I don't recall the Al Saud family shooting, shelling and bombing to death tens of thousands of their subjects.

And I would most probably know about it.

Try again.

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Why would the US (or anyone else) sit down and give genocidal dictator Assad a free pass?

It's not about Assad and you know it, if it was a straightforward internal uprising as in the beginning then being so shortsighted could be justified... But the issue here that leads Putin to be involved is the US/Israel/Saudi axis hijacking the rebellion by enabling death squads to enter Syria, to further erode stability in the region and advance the hegemony of the western military industrial complex.

You're all being very silly.

Really Harry...

Of course it's about Assad.

He's Russia's friend and sends them billions of dollars every year.

You don't think Putin is there for humanitarian reasons do you?

If so, you're sillier than I thought.

And that's saying something.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why would the US (or anyone else) sit down and give genocidal dictator Assad a free pass?

because they do for others like SA etc... double standard ? understand that word ?

I don't recall the Al Saud family shooting, shelling and bombing to death tens of thousands of their subjects.

And I would most probably know about it.

Try again.

what about secret prison tortures ? you probably know all about them too

the Saudis rulers are brutal dictators, no need to bomb your population during a crisis to be one.

Are you really supporting that double standard ?

Incidentally the current SA dynasty come from Jewish descendents, which makes it very interesting in terms of delusion and deceive in this region