Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

the truth is that the US has no credibility whatsoever in the world. Only retarded ignorant Americans think that. They believe the BS they see on FauxNews and think that's how it works out there.

The truth is that we are closer to Russia than America, and that we need Russia as a partner rather the US after what happened in the US in the last few decades. If we have to partner with dictators and authoritarian regimes, might as well do it with our neighbors.

Russia is Europe partner, period, not America.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Russia is Europe partner, period, not America.

How is Russia's NATO application progressing?

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Americas Bitch. Nothing to do with socialism.

there is a lot of talks in French conservatives circles about how Gaulism was abandoned, since the traitorous Sarkozy was in power.

Hollande is just a continuation of Sarkozy pussy whipped foreign policies,

not looking for France independence, soon the Americans will be asking us to give up our WMDs !!!

Originally Posted by Butterfly

US has no credibility whatsoever in the world. Only retarded ignorant Americans think that

Actually your 'retarded ignorant Americans' do a great deal of good in this world we live in. It is not all black ops, or government sanctioned. It is humanitarian, pro-democracy, medical... And there is this major issue, security, that US provides for great part of the world.

And, IMHO, I would say great part of the world has positive view of US (hey, I have been around).

OK, europe excluded. They hate US for, what ... In the 80's many of you euros sided with 'Soviet peace missiles.' on your soil (Eastern part), targetted to UK and US. That was a big thing back then. You loved it back then? Sure you did.

But you calling Americans 'retarded' does not help your cause. Which is...

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Russia is Europe partner, period, not America.

I am sure you and your kind of euros want this... and I know you do not much care about democracy or such things. But how on earth would you make your fellow 99% europeans to agree to join Russia? Bit of a leap.

What I see is about a majority of europeans (the sensible European people) hate your insane/corrupt EU.

When EU is done (at least returned to previous EC level, which is ok bar agri subs), Europe can rise again, with all great individual countries with their strenghts, from the ashes.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Eh, the evidence is where?

That's what I'm saying - Fox News.

The rest of the planet is well aware of the mass-murders and genocide (as they were based on lying pretexts)

Iraq.
Afghanistan
Syria
Ukraine
Indonesia
Vietnam
Cuba
Laos
All over Africa
Phillipines

Among many many others.

"Security"? - Fvck off.

The only words to describe it would be self-serving, clandestine, murderous global invasions.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

"Security"? - Fvck off.

Yes. US provides global security in the same way British Empire did before.

You might like to think you want to live in uncontrolled society. But you don't want to live in anarchy really. Ones like you who can't handle a gun die first. Just saying.

We are all better off in civilized society, with law and order.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Yes. US provides global security

With security like this, Socal, who needs enemies?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

the British were a brutal nation

There was much of looting those times.

Consider what British Empire created. US. NZ. Australia. Canada. Singapore, HK, the richest nations now on this planet. And accepted standard of democracy and rule of law. Free market economy.

And consider, in comparison, what French Empire left behind. Oppression and poverty, poorest countries in the world. Like Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia. Africa.

Descartes and de Gaulle are of no importance and have no say here, despite Descartes being intelligent guy.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

With security like this

Thinking of security, if they mothafuking mods shut down my whole thread, they can sure shut down you any time. And that is fascist pigs for you.



For all her failures, US rules, with UK. And NZ is love and Aus is business. Europe means nothing at all to me.

He seems to have flipped. Must be tough when your country has been owned time and again by those poor gypos from Russia.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Yes. US provides global security in the same way British Empire did before.

I think global hegemony is closer to the mark. I doubt the average Iraqi, Afghani or Syrian thanks the USA for their role in providing them with security.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

We are all better off in civilized society, with law and order.

Indeed- and that is where we should stay.

well, looks like Putin is having his way with East Ukraine

next stop, Moldavia

it's nice to see silly Kerry being exposed as pointless and useless,

I suspect Obama put him there knowing he will fail

Originally Posted by sabang

I think global hegemony is closer to the mark.

You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment.

Originally Posted by sabang

I doubt the average Iraqi, Afghani or Syrian thanks the USA

Although generation of girls in Iraq and Afghanistan may have a future now.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by sabang

I think global hegemony is closer to the mark.

You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment.

Originally Posted by sabang

I doubt the average Iraqi, Afghani or Syrian thanks the USA

Although generation of girls in Iraq and Afghanistan may have a future now.

Girls/women were free to go to school, work etc under Saddam and the country was a lot more safer and stable. So I'm not to sure that the average Iraqi girl will be showing much thanks to the US for their new found prosperity and freedom for the simple reason there is none.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Girls/women were free to go to school, work etc under Saddam

True, as it was secular society. I am really more after Afghanistan here.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

and the country was a lot more safer and stable

For that minority working for the regime. Others were oppressed.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

I'm not to sure that the average Iraqi girl will be showing much thanks to the US

Nobody thanks the US.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Pinkish Leopard award

Thanks - are you sure you can spare it?

So anyway, two more regions decide they want to stay away from US sponsored Ukraine, and hold a referendum. The main stream press call it "rigged" without bothering to say exactly how it was rigged, because ultimately, it was not. Amongst the ever increasing level of violence in Ukraine, most of it is coming from the unelected parachuted in by the merkins government, who ordered the national guard to open fire on the polling stations during the referendum votes. Where is the outrage? Unelected undemocratic foreign bank rolled government using army to shoot civilians whilst they are in the course of voting in a democratic election.

There - happy now?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Girls/women were free to go to school, work etc under Saddam and the country was a lot more safer and stable.

what are you talking about ? Saddam was killing his own people

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Nobody thanks the US.

why would they ? they are murderous thugs, do you always say thank you to bullies and murderers for their work ?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Girls/women were free to go to school, work etc under Saddam and the country was a lot more safer and stable.

what are you talking about ? Saddam was killing his own people

Of course Saddam was a brutal dictator and committed some evil atrocities such as gassing the Kurds, but there was still less violence in the country under his rule and it was more prosperous than it is today, same goes for Libya with Gadaffi.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Amongst the ever increasing level of violence in Ukraine, most of it is coming from the unelected parachuted in by the merkins government, who ordered the national guard to open fire on the polling stations

I am not denying what you say about Ukraine. Crimea and eastern part of the country are largely Russian. They should all democratically decide where they want to be. Forced oppression of either side is no good.

I dislike nazis getting stronger Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I dislike nazis getting stronger Ukraine.

But these are the people your peaceful USA are funding. What now for you?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I dislike nazis getting stronger Ukraine.

But these are the people your peaceful USA are funding. What now for you?

Isn't EU funding or at least promising to fund them, not US? Kerry is an idiot and that goes for about 100% of your european commission too.

^ 5b USD invested so far from the US regime change syndicate.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Of course Saddam was a brutal dictator and committed some evil atrocities such as gassing the Kurds, but there was still less violence in the country under his rule and it was more prosperous

Sometimes freedom is more valuable than prosperity. Freedom itself promotes prosperity, in normal market conditions.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Of course Saddam was a brutal dictator and committed some evil atrocities such as gassing the Kurds, but there was still less violence in the country under his rule and it was more prosperous

Sometimes freedom is more valuable than prosperity. Freedom itself promotes prosperity, in normal market conditions.

You think there is freedom in Iraq now??? Maybe in Kurdistan, but the rest of the country is fucked.