Thread: Military intervention in Syria

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I don't get it. Yep, poison gas sucks. But why is it the US's obligation to once again jump in. I didn't get it for Iraq, I don't get it for Syria, and whateverthefuck Afghanistan was meant to prove, that was doomed from the beginning. It's not like the US doesn't have several thousand vats of malodorous shit on its own shores to clean up. I don't get it.

Don't forget Bosnia.

The US has yet to learn anything since Vietnam. Too quick to go where we are not wanted and wind up with nothing but more dead soldiers.

Here's an idea..why don't we just let all the mutherfucken middleasterners kill each other and then we could just walk in an take the oil?

we all have problems mate- deeply concerning ones at that.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I don't get it. Yep, poison gas sucks. But why is it the US's obligation to once again jump in.

War means weapons. Weapons mean business. Business means profit. America cant pay it's current bills. A nice war would bring in a lot of business.

You do realise that Bashar Assad was being downright praised by the west, before they decided to escalate the fight with Iran, by picking on Syria? Who can forget that embarassing puff piece in Vogue Magazine. His father was the typical Arab despot/strongman, much like Saddam Hussein. Assad the younger, in contrast, was considered a liberalising influence on Syria. He was an opthalmologist practising and educated in London, his wife an investment banker with Morgan Stanley, thoroughly secular- even has a London accent. Whether that remains the case, with this largely foreign funded rebellion, is open to question- certainly events like this tend to play into the hands of the military.

Originally Posted by socal

Pretty fucking cool eh.

not as cool as blowing one up with a RPG,

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Life is far too ridiculous to even bother to explain.

indeed, first quote you have that is making sense

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

DOES OBAMA KNOW HE'S FIGHTING ON AL-QAEDA'S SIDE?

of course he does, it's part of Bush "Redirection" policies, see article posted by Sabang

Originally Posted by sabang

Still waiting for a single shred of evidence from the combined might of the US & EU and their presstitutes that the Syrian Army committed this atrocity

Exclusive: Intercepted Calls Prove Syrian Army Used Nerve Gas, U.S. Spies Say | The Cable

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

DOES OBAMA KNOW HE'S FIGHTING ON AL-QAEDA'S SIDE?

he is a black muslim non american - so of course he does

next he will crash airforce 1 into a church full of kittens

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

I don't get it. Yep, poison gas sucks. But why is it the US's obligation to once again jump in.

War means weapons. Weapons mean business. Business means profit. America cant pay it's current bills. A nice war would bring in a lot of business.

It also means higher oil prices which would put a squeeze on the already fragile economy which could easily tip the country into recession.

Originally Posted by Humbert

It also means higher oil prices which would put a squeeze on the already fragile economy which could easily tip the country into recession.

I think it's the intend so they can claim the economy didn't recover as expected, which it won't even without a war

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

It's not like the US doesn't have several thousand vats of malodorous shit on its own shores to clean up. I don't get it.

Actually due to previous agreements including SALT, those weapons of chemical nature were destroyed at Touwila, Utah back in the 90's. I helped during its build, but never personally witnessed any disposal.

Originally Posted by Primo

Oil.......what else

Not much of that resource to be found in Syria. they also have a water shortage hence their invasion of Lebanon.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

France is willing to fight this war until the last American standing...

I don't know about that. Lately they have been showing a few bared teeth in Mali. I like the look as well as the low profile they have taken. No breast beating, in and out quietly. Send in the Frogs!

Originally Posted by poorfalang

the chinese and russians will take care of you lot

Is that before they commit to Capitalism or after? BTW, Russia still maintains several divisions along the Chinese border, just in case....We shan't be holding our breath on this happening mate.

Originally Posted by sabang

Still waiting for a single shred of evidence from the combined might of the US & EU and their presstitutes that the Syrian Army committed this atrocity. Nothing, except vapid politicians saying "we have evidence". So show us some- anything at all. One single shred. Pleez, pretty pleez. Otherwise, it is as obvious as the lines on my palm they don't have any.

"presstitutes," well I'll be you are coming around there sabang. Yet another agreeable post. I may have to sign up for the same class you've been attending in sensibility.

Seems folks want to show off their muscles before they show off their facts...sinking of the Lusitania comes to mind. Reports have stated that fewer than 9% of America would support military intervention, yet Obama and his adviser's seem to heading in the face of opposing winds.

How about that! Handlers in action!!! Do it Barry, show em you got balls!!!

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Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

It's not like the US doesn't have several thousand vats of malodorous shit on its own shores to clean up. I don't get it.

Actually due to previous agreements including SALT, those weapons of chemical nature were destroyed at Touwila, Utah back in the 90's. I helped during its build, but never personally witnessed any disposal.[

Itnt: I wasn't actually referring to US stockpiles, although it could easily have been read that way. I was thinking more along the lines of unemployment, obesity resulting in a population in which many weigh more than Jap import cars, strident, lunatic white women, teenage Negroes running amuck murdering people for kicks, a crashing ecomony, a hopeless President, a government as corrupt as Nigeria's, poverty, seizure of homes, drug abuse, one of the highest levels of incarceration in the world, etc, etc, and on and on it goes. America is gasping for breath - almost dead - and it's seeking out new military adventures. WTF?

Originally Posted by ltnt

Originally Posted by Primo

Oil.......what else

Not much of that resource to be found in Syria. they also have a water shortage hence their invasion of Lebanon.

I guess my post went right over your head, an easy thing to do it seems. The oil is in Iran of course as I pointed out,this war is about Iran, Syria is a friend of Iran and the west needs to knock it out. The Americans have had plans to do this for at least a decade.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Itnt: I wasn't actually referring to US stockpiles, although it could easily have been read that way. I was thinking more along the lines of unemployment, obesity resulting in a population in which many weigh more than Jap import cars, strident, lunatic white women, teenage Negroes running amuck murdering people for kicks, a crashing ecomony, a hopeless President, a government as corrupt as Nigeria's, poverty, seizure of homes, drug abuse, one of the highest levels of incarceration in the world, etc, etc, and on and on it goes. America is gasping for breath - almost dead - and it's seeking out new military adventures. WTF?

Oh, just the small stuff. Missed it completely. Green on the way if I can.

As for mistaken identity of Iran and Syria in your post, Senor Primo, just where is Iran in this oblique discussion? Oh yea, part of the get one get them all sort of shotgun analogy by you.

Perhaps America's real intention is setting off a war with Russia so they can steal Russia's oil resources which exceed all of the Middle Easts reserves?

As long as we're prone to make giant assessment's of foreign policy by America these days of which you seem to have keen insight and should be selling your opinions and appraisals to the U.N. or the world of Hater's of America.

My hip boots are going on 'NOW!

Originally Posted by ltnt

As for mistaken identity of Iran and Syria in your post, Senor Primo, just where is Iran in this oblique discussion? Oh yea, part of the get one get them all sort of shotgun analogy by you.

You obviously are clueless to what's going on in the world. I suggest you go away and do some serious reading about American foreign policy and then you will learn something.

Perhaps America's real intention is setting off a war with Russia so they can steal Russia's oil resources which exceed all of the Middle Easts reserves?

I am sure America would love to be nuked back to the stone age by Russia who have thousands of nukes, Syria and Iran do not of course have any. See the difference?

Originally Posted by Primo

You obviously are clueless to what's going on in the world. I suggest you go away and do some serious reading about American foreign policy and then you will learn something.

Yea, I need an education from a pikey like you on American History. Oh,oh I see a wave forming, pulling on those hip-boots now!

Originally Posted by Primo

I am sure America would love to be nuked back to the stone age by Russia who have thousands of nukes, Syria and Iran do not of course have any. See the difference?

Interesting little dreams you have there Primo. Like Russia could deliver anything greater than a formal protest at the UN. Ooops, wave just hit! Hip-boots saved the day!

You sure your not related to ENT?

Originally Posted by ltnt

Originally Posted by Primo

You obviously are clueless to what's going on in the world. I suggest you go away and do some serious reading about American foreign policy and then you will learn something.

Yea, I need an education from a pikey like you on American History.

Obviously you do need an education but you are free to get it where you want to,thats the American way. LOL.

It's hard for me to see what interest America would have in becoming involved in a civil war that doesn't threaten America directly.

Now, if Assad falls and is replaced by a regime even more overtly hostile to Israel then of course the pressure on America to intervene would be ramped up domestically but why the rush? They can cross that bridge if and when they come to it.

There is the humanitarian angle about chemical weapons (allegedly) being used but that is a matter for the UN, the USA is on rather dodgy ground in that respect anyway given the recent past.

Obama or his successor (be it a Dem or a Rep) is going to be damned if they do and damned if they don't so why not wait and see how things play out and then go to congress to make a case for action if it is deemed to be necessary. Otherwise it is a Syrian domestic issue and nobody's business but theirs.

Originally Posted by sabang

You do realise that Bashar Assad was being downright praised by the west, before they decided to escalate the fight with Iran, by picking on Syria? Who can forget that embarassing puff piece in Vogue Magazine. His father was the typical Arab despot/strongman, much like Saddam Hussein. Assad the younger, in contrast, was considered a liberalising influence on Syria. He was an opthalmologist practising and educated in London, his wife an investment banker with Morgan Stanley, thoroughly secular- even has a London accent. Whether that remains the case, with this largely foreign funded rebellion, is open to question- certainly events like this tend to play into the hands of the military.

You're right that America did not have a dog in this fight. It started when a group of kids who'd sprayed some graffiti (that they'd seen on TV in Tunisia) were arrested and tortured. They tried to quell the ensuing protests with live gunfire which led to the protests spreading. Then they brought in armoured brigades to try and shell them into submission - commanded by Assad's brother.

Don't tell me Assad's hands don't have blood on them, he's the President FFS.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

the Fed is easing QE

Easing Quantative Easing? Is that like an ATM machine or a PIN number?

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

the Fed is easing QE

Easing Quantative Easing? Is that like an ATM machine or a PIN number?

Well, like they're not printing as much...

Originally Posted by Primo

Obviously you do need an education but you are free to get it where you want to,thats the American way. LOL.

Thaks Primo, that's very civil of you. Its amazing how many choices I had. America, what a country!

May I now remove my hip-boots or should I wait for another ignorance storm? Better play it safe, keeping them on. Can't trust those I-tai's they change allegiances so often even they don't know who they're fighting for...

Originally Posted by Primo

Originally Posted by ltnt

Originally Posted by Primo

Oil.......what else

Not much of that resource to be found in Syria. they also have a water shortage hence their invasion of Lebanon.

I guess my post went right over your head, an easy thing to do it seems. The oil is in Iran of course as I pointed out,this war is about Iran, Syria is a friend of Iran and the west needs to knock it out. The Americans have had plans to do this for at least a decade.

So you think they're using this as an excuse to attack Iran?

Do you have a map of the Middle East handy?

That would be some pretty shit shooting, even by American standards.

You really are a tool.