Thread: Reasons Citizens Should Own Guns

i think when tibet was invaded, very most stayed calm, surrendered...

and when - ages ago - i just casually spoke to some of them, it was my very strong impression, that they were very very angry... about precisely this...
that they didnt (and never could) do anything to preserve their lifes, their country...

i just thought, it might be easier for people to cope with losses, when they really fought for it, they tried to defend it, even though to no avail, instead of giving up without a beep...

The Kuomintang would have taken back Tibet as well if they had won the civil war, and it would be no issue at all now. This map shows the claimed territory of the Republic of China, note that it is larger than the People's Republic.

Originally Posted by Rainfall

That would be Ghandi. That buddhism is non-violent is a Western legend.

That's a new one. You have some kind of support for that statement...?

simply look at the news and connections between the rescent violence in burma and sri lanka... and its buddist establishment and followers.

buddism.... just another religion with the usual problems

US concealed gun safety teacher shoots student

Terry Dunlap, 73, was demonstrating a .38-calibre pistol when it went off and struck Michael Piemonte, 26.

He and his wife were taking the day-long class in order to carry guns for their own safety, he told local media.

All 50 states allow residents to obtain a concealed firearm permit, though training and other requirements differ.

Last month, the state of Illinois became the last to do so, in response to a court order.

The Fairfield County, Ohio, sheriff's office listed the Saturday shooting in the town of Lancaster as accidental, the Columbus Dispatch reported.

"It took me a couple of seconds to realise that I had been shot," Mr Piemonte told CNN.

Mr Piemonte was treated in hospital and released that night.

Mr Dunlap has not spoken publicly about the incident.

Ohio residents seeking a concealed weapon permit must take an approved safety course or show "evidence of imminent danger", pass a criminal background check, and meet other requirements.

BBC News - US concealed gun safety teacher shoots student


How does this happen? A teacher in gun safety managing to shoot one of is students by accident? What was the guy doing pointing a gun in a direction even close to towards a student?

^ There are a number of events which need to put in place before a human is shot. It is therefore difficult to ever call an incident of this particular nature an accident. It may not be intentional but nevertheless it is still difficult to merely nominate the event as 'accidental'.

Firstly, in the case of a handgun, the weapon normally needs to have a loaded magazine (pistol) or ammunition manually placed inside the chamber in the case of a revolver.

In the case of a pistol, a round needs to be placed inside the chamber which normally requires the slide to be operated manually into a 'make ready' position.

2 more events then need to take place before, in this case, a human is shot.

1. The weapon is pointed at a human target

2. The trigger mechanism is pulled by the operator.


For all these events to become accomplished, at best it is incompetence in the extreme.


'A man needs to know his limitations' - Dirty Harry

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Morden

Originally Posted by Rainfall

What if? Never happened in over 50 years to me. That seems quite clear and real to me, not some fantasy scenarios. Prevent the 'someone' from having a gun, problem solved.

Oh were it so easy. There were 60 licence applications here in one day at the same office. It's the illegal ones that get out of the system through theft and confiscation that are the ones to worry about.

In the UK and Australia, I would agree that there 's no need to own a self-defence gun and, indeed, not much chance of getting one. Some other countries are different and Thailand is one of those.

A gun is nothing more than a tool - full stop.

Including the outdated US Constitution.

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A big negitivo on that there Morden. Along with the Bill of Rights, America's got it sussed:

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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A big negitivo on that there Morden. Along with the Bill of Rights, America's got it sussed:

Don't you think that, after a few hundred years, parts of it could be updated or improved?

^one has to wonder why he stops at the 10th amendment. perhaps 11+ are not quite so good

Originally Posted by Morden

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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A big negitivo on that there Morden. Along with the Bill of Rights, America's got it sussed:

Don't you think that, after a few hundred years, parts of it could be updated or improved?

What parts do you feel need updating and/or improvement?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Morden

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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A big negitivo on that there Morden. Along with the Bill of Rights, America's got it sussed:

Don't you think that, after a few hundred years, parts of it could be updated or improved?

What parts do you feel need updating and/or improvement?

Well, that's a big subject, especially if you include the whole written Constitution and the crafty laws, such as the PATRIOT Act, that have amended it already.

Perhaps the first step is for US citizens to decide what sort of country they want. For example, if it's OK for kids to be massacred in school, then you need no reforms. If it's OK for cops to kill unarmed citizens, then you need no reforms. If it's OK for your government to intercept your private communications, then you need no reforms.

The country seems to be going down the Florida sink hole at a rate of knots but if you're happy with that, carry on. All the rest of us need is for your troops and government to mind their own business then you will find that the rest of the world will do the same to ya'll.

Originally Posted by Morden

...then you will find that the rest of the world will do the same to ya'll.

It's written: y'all, but we get your drift.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Morden

...then you will find that the rest of the world will do the same to ya'll.

It's written: y'all, but we get your drift.

Thanks for the correction, Dood.

Originally Posted by hazz

^one has to wonder why he stops at the 10th amendment. perhaps 11+ are not quite so good

Perhaps he didn't want to mention the 18th (Prohibition)....and its repeal in the 21st.

Americans are pretty good at screwing things up with their Amendments....

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

What parts do you feel need updating and/or improvement?

You certainly feel that it is a nice compilation of rights, but rest assured, it's only cheap ones that don't cost the government a thing to give away. Learn by comparision what the bill of rights of a democratic country is supposed to look like, try Sweden. Sweden Fundamental Rights and Freedoms Law - Law Firms lawyers, Attorney, Solicitor, Injury of Sweden

^Yes rainfall its much better than the American constitution but would fail in America as each article is longer than a soundbit

Originally Posted by Troy

Originally Posted by hazz

^one has to wonder why he stops at the 10th amendment. perhaps 11+ are not quite so good

Perhaps he didn't want to mention the 18th (Prohibition)....and its repeal in the 21st.

Americans are pretty good at screwing things up with their Amendments....

I can see why that might cause the gunuts t to miss that lot out

Originally Posted by hazz

^Yes rainfall its much better than the American constitution but would fail in America as each article is longer than a soundbit

That's as much as many of them can handle at a time.

^yes and that Swedish constitution would have saved their nation from the humiliation of the McCarthy witch hunts which showed to american constittion to be the toilet paper that it is.

"...how the Communist Party was infiltrating the US government..."

Dumb and dumberer.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Can't forget too, that Commie influence is present today:

So you are crying that Conservatives are under-represented in higher education?

In other news: Atheists are under-represented in church leadership.

Originally Posted by quimbian corholla

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Can't forget too, that Commie influence is present today:

So you are crying that Conservatives are under-represented in higher education?

One wonders how the kids get out of college/university with the ability to discern right & wrong with all the left-wing bullshit those professors feed them...