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    Still in the Wild West, I guess.
    No more so than Thailand which isn't saying much.

    Think that expression 'Armed Society is a Polite Society' factors on one level only not taking into account supposed paranoia on the parts of 'open carry' individuals. Obviously, having 'gun-free' zones isn't going to thwart the evil-doers...
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    Can you compare the US with civilized Switzerland? Seriously? They couldn't possibly put so many lies in a pic like Boon Mee. For starters, it isn't from Switzerland, women don't serve in their militia (they don't have an army). Not 1 in 2 citizens has guns, but 29% of the households (43% in the US). If you take the normal household with parents and 2 kids, less than 10% of the Swiss citizens have guns. They don't 'own' the guns, but they're issued by the government, and to be returned at the end of the militia service. They can keep them, but that requires a license that can be denied easily.

    RickThai wouldn't get one for obvious reasons, he couldn't even get into the militia on the grounds of certified insanity.
    Yeah, but a Nazi/East German soldier like yourself wouldn't even be allowed in the country! I am curious how many countries are you not allowed to enter?


    Actually, the Swiss are more like the typical, Caucasian conservative in the US, then they are with the typical US liberal, in terms of respect for others, self reliance, and personal accountability.

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    Rick... you could not be more wrong.... the swiss are, unlike you, really laid back. everytime I have been to geneva, the gent at immigration, just looks at the cover of the passport, at me and then moves his index finer to tell me to move along.... I have yet to have them even open the passport. I think you will find that rains German passport is almost as good as a British one for getting into countries visa free. And unlike you if we visit Brazil we won't have to wipe ink off our fingers

    Rick have you even met a Swiss national... let alone spent any time in their country? your assessment is about as accurate as your assessment of rain's chances of getting into the country.

    Tell you what if you are typical of the output of the american state education system.... may be the libertarians are right to want the whole thing closed down as they money they spent of you was clearly a massive waste.
    Actually I spent a week in Zurich and stayed another week at an expensive resort in northern Switzerland (forget the name of the village). Most of the Swiss people I met were very responsible, polite, honest, clean-cut individuals (even the ones who smoked pot). Nothing at all like the typical Democrat in the US, but very much like most of the conservative people that I have met in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
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    So who murdered the border guard? One of the thousands of East German citizens trying to escape from your country?

    The Berlin Wall, was put up almost overnight, due to over 1 million East Germans fleeing East Germans into West Germany. The wall was to keep them in; not prevent attacks from the US, Great Britain, or West Germany.

    To those who don't know; Peter Fetcher was shot while he and a companion tried to climb over the Berlin Wall. Fletchner, fell back onto the East German side of the wall.

    The East German military left him where he fell for a couple of days (to the horror of the rest of the world), until he finally died from his injuries. Only then did they see fit to haul his body away from where he fell.

    Must have been a real source of national pride for the East German soldiers.

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    We did not have niggas shooting young mothers and babies, or joggers from Australia dead. You were our laughing stock, small East Germany 1/100 the size of the US won more medals at Olympic games during the eighties than the doped US athletes.

    Ubermench,
    Yeah, but all your women athletes were half-man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai
    Actually I spent a week in Zurich and stayed another week at an expensive resort in northern Switzerland (forget the name of the village). Most of the Swiss people I met were very responsible, polite, honest, clean-cut individuals (even the ones who smoked pot). Nothing at all like the typical Democrat in the US, but very much like most of the conservative people that I have met in the US. RickThai __________________

    strange you should say that, as whilst the swiss are politically conservative compared to the rest of Europe, you will find that their governments implment policies that are very close to what the democrats want to do in your country. the health care, welfare, gun control.
    you see the dems in your country are rather representive of wehta we would describe as the right over here.

    out of curiosity, did you see many people wondering around with guns whilst you were there?
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    you see the dems in your country are rather representive of wehta we would describe as the right over here.
    That's because the congress, Dems and Rethugs, are bought owned by the NRA.

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    Defensive gun uses: Police: Homeowner fatally shoots intruder in midst of crime spree. “Neighbors say there had been some break-ins recently, and they were in the process of forming a neighborhood watch but had not done so. As a result of Wednesday’s trauma, shaken neighbors said that they are definitely beefing up security in their neighborhood.”

    Related: Woman pulls gun, fends off carjackers. “If these were my kids and they were out at 11:30 at night, terrorizing women, I would scare the life out of them.”

    Update: Resident Kills Home Invader. “A 24-year-old resident of the home got into a gunfight with the trio of suspected robbers that left a scene strewn with ‘guns, multiple bullet holes and blood,’ police said.”

    Just three more examples why citizens should have firearm protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Defensive gun uses: Police: Homeowner fatally shoots intruder in midst of crime spree. “Neighbors say there had been some break-ins recently, and they were in the process of forming a neighborhood watch but had not done so. As a result of Wednesday’s trauma, shaken neighbors said that they are definitely beefing up security in their neighborhood.”

    Related: Woman pulls gun, fends off carjackers. “If these were my kids and they were out at 11:30 at night, terrorizing women, I would scare the life out of them.”

    Update: Resident Kills Home Invader. “A 24-year-old resident of the home got into a gunfight with the trio of suspected robbers that left a scene strewn with ‘guns, multiple bullet holes and blood,’ police said.”

    Just three more examples why citizens should have firearm protection.

    In the first case, there is no suggestion other that of a policeman that the car thief had a gun. The cop should know whether he had or not so his hesitant statement isn't convincing. Shooting to death an unarmed intruder in a garage isn't on.

    In the second case, the woman and innocent bystanders could have been killed.

    The third case is an example of why we are armed with a gun at home.

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    Maybe there is hope for America yet

    Colo. voters cast ballots to recall two lawmakers who voted for gun control.
    Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY 8:19 a.m. EDT September 11, 2013
    The Colorado state senate president who faced a backlash after casting votes for gun control has conceded in a race to recall him from office, and the Associated Press says a second state lawmaker who cast the same votes has lost her recall vote.

    With one of two counties completely tallied, 50.96% of voters cast ballots to remove state Sen. John Morse, a Democrat, from office and 49.04% cast ballots to keep him, according to the Colorado Secretary of State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    adios pendejos

    Maybe there is hope for America yet

    Colo. voters cast ballots to recall two lawmakers who voted for gun control.
    Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY 8:19 a.m. EDT September 11, 2013
    The Colorado state senate president who faced a backlash after casting votes for gun control has conceded in a race to recall him from office, and the Associated Press says a second state lawmaker who cast the same votes has lost her recall vote.

    With one of two counties completely tallied, 50.96% of voters cast ballots to remove state Sen. John Morse, a Democrat, from office and 49.04% cast ballots to keep him, according to the Colorado Secretary of State.
    What was even more interesting is that Rep Giron, a Democrat, female, and Hispanic, was ousted from Pueblo which is mostly Democratic and heavily comprised of Hispanics!

    Hopefully, this will be a wake up call to all politicos who "infringe" upon the rights of citizens to bear arms!

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    You are not a citizen in my country. Don't go there since we have no wish to host the criminally insane, and I stay away from the cursed place you are from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
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    adios pendejos

    Maybe there is hope for America yet

    Colo. voters cast ballots to recall two lawmakers who voted for gun control.
    Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY 8:19 a.m. EDT September 11, 2013
    The Colorado state senate president who faced a backlash after casting votes for gun control has conceded in a race to recall him from office, and the Associated Press says a second state lawmaker who cast the same votes has lost her recall vote.

    With one of two counties completely tallied, 50.96% of voters cast ballots to remove state Sen. John Morse, a Democrat, from office and 49.04% cast ballots to keep him, according to the Colorado Secretary of State.
    What was even more interesting is that Rep Giron, a Democrat, female, and Hispanic, was ousted from Pueblo which is mostly Democratic and heavily comprised of Hispanics!

    Hopefully, this will be a wake up call to all politicos who "infringe" upon the rights of citizens to bear arms!

    RickThai

    Hi Rick.

    I'm stlll waiting for you to describe what you did in the military, especially what front line action you experienced.

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    Gonna say something that will upset some American citizens
    Americans are not MATURE enough to own guns.
    And if they were, they would not carry guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
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    Actually I spent a week in Zurich and stayed another week at an expensive resort in northern Switzerland (forget the name of the village). Most of the Swiss people I met were very responsible, polite, honest, clean-cut individuals (even the ones who smoked pot). Nothing at all like the typical Democrat in the US, but very much like most of the conservative people that I have met in the US. RickThai __________________

    strange you should say that, as whilst the swiss are politically conservative compared to the rest of Europe, you will find that their governments implment policies that are very close to what the democrats want to do in your country. the health care, welfare, gun control.
    you see the dems in your country are rather representive of wehta we would describe as the right over here.

    out of curiosity, did you see many people wondering around with guns whilst you were there?

    Can't say that I did (see people in Switzerland with guns), but then again, except for cops I very seldom see people walking around with guns in the USA (unless I am at a shooting range).

    Perhaps you are confusing liberalism and socialism? As I recall, before an immigrant can live in a Swiss town, the townspeople must take a vote and approve the measure. Seems pretty conservative to me.

    Perhaps Patsycat can shed more light on Swiss politics and the characteristics of the Swiss???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Morden View Post
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    adios pendejos

    Maybe there is hope for America yet

    Colo. voters cast ballots to recall two lawmakers who voted for gun control.
    Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY 8:19 a.m. EDT September 11, 2013
    The Colorado state senate president who faced a backlash after casting votes for gun control has conceded in a race to recall him from office, and the Associated Press says a second state lawmaker who cast the same votes has lost her recall vote.

    With one of two counties completely tallied, 50.96% of voters cast ballots to remove state Sen. John Morse, a Democrat, from office and 49.04% cast ballots to keep him, according to the Colorado Secretary of State.
    What was even more interesting is that Rep Giron, a Democrat, female, and Hispanic, was ousted from Pueblo which is mostly Democratic and heavily comprised of Hispanics!

    Hopefully, this will be a wake up call to all politicos who "infringe" upon the rights of citizens to bear arms!

    RickThai

    Hi Rick.

    I'm stlll waiting for you to describe what you did in the military, especially what front line action you experienced.

    Wait all you want. I've already given you more information than you deserve and all you do is attack me with that info!


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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    Gonna say something that will upset some American citizens
    Americans are not MATURE enough to own guns.
    And if they were, they would not carry guns.
    I agree with you that more and more Americans are not RESPONSIBLE enough to own guns, but denying guns to the liberals/progressives would be illegal under the US constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
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    adios pendejos

    Maybe there is hope for America yet

    Colo. voters cast ballots to recall two lawmakers who voted for gun control.
    Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY 8:19 a.m. EDT September 11, 2013
    The Colorado state senate president who faced a backlash after casting votes for gun control has conceded in a race to recall him from office, and the Associated Press says a second state lawmaker who cast the same votes has lost her recall vote.

    With one of two counties completely tallied, 50.96% of voters cast ballots to remove state Sen. John Morse, a Democrat, from office and 49.04% cast ballots to keep him, according to the Colorado Secretary of State.
    What was even more interesting is that Rep Giron, a Democrat, female, and Hispanic, was ousted from Pueblo which is mostly Democratic and heavily comprised of Hispanics!

    Hopefully, this will be a wake up call to all politicos who "infringe" upon the rights of citizens to bear arms!

    RickThai

    Hi Rick.

    I'm stlll waiting for you to describe what you did in the military, especially what front line action you experienced.

    Wait all you want. I've already given you more information than you deserve and all you do is attack me with that info!


    RickThai

    I guess you were never in the military or, if you were, you were a back room boy. Now you live a fantasy.

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    adios pendejos

    Maybe there is hope for America yet

    Colo. voters cast ballots to recall two lawmakers who voted for gun control.
    Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY 8:19 a.m. EDT September 11, 2013
    The Colorado state senate president who faced a backlash after casting votes for gun control has conceded in a race to recall him from office, and the Associated Press says a second state lawmaker who cast the same votes has lost her recall vote.

    With one of two counties completely tallied, 50.96% of voters cast ballots to remove state Sen. John Morse, a Democrat, from office and 49.04% cast ballots to keep him, according to the Colorado Secretary of State.
    What was even more interesting is that Rep Giron, a Democrat, female, and Hispanic, was ousted from Pueblo which is mostly Democratic and heavily comprised of Hispanics!

    Hopefully, this will be a wake up call to all politicos who "infringe" upon the rights of citizens to bear arms!

    RickThai

    Hi Rick.

    I'm stlll waiting for you to describe what you did in the military, especially what front line action you experienced.

    Wait all you want. I've already given you more information than you deserve and all you do is attack me with that info!


    RickThai

    I guess you were never in the military or, if you were, you were a back room boy. Now you live a fantasy.
    Let's see???? I get a military pension. I get disability pay from injuries I received in 1971 from a booby trap on a night op (that I found as point man, but consisted of a double tripwire which one of the members of my squad wound up tripping anyway).

    It must be sad, to go through life being so consistently wrong (but I guess you never know the difference) about so many things!

    RickThai

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    I see. Rickthai has been on disability pay since 1971. For 42 years running. Pathetic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickThai View Post
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    What was even more interesting is that Rep Giron, a Democrat, female, and Hispanic, was ousted from Pueblo which is mostly Democratic and heavily comprised of Hispanics!

    Hopefully, this will be a wake up call to all politicos who "infringe" upon the rights of citizens to bear arms!

    RickThai

    Hi Rick.

    I'm stlll waiting for you to describe what you did in the military, especially what front line action you experienced.

    Wait all you want. I've already given you more information than you deserve and all you do is attack me with that info!


    RickThai

    I guess you were never in the military or, if you were, you were a back room boy. Now you live a fantasy.
    Let's see???? I get a military pension. I get disability pay from injuries I received in 1971 from a booby trap on a night op (that I found as point man, but consisted of a double tripwire which one of the members of my squad wound up tripping anyway).

    It must be sad, to go through life being so consistently wrong (but I guess you never know the difference) about so many things!

    RickThai
    At last, I flushed out some information from you.

    Did you take a job or just sit back with your pension dreaming of pumping six bullets into anyone who breaks into your house?

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    Maybe there is hope for America yet

    Colo. voters cast ballots to recall two lawmakers who voted for gun control.
    Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY 8:19 a.m. EDT September 11, 2013
    The Colorado state senate president who faced a backlash after casting votes for gun control has conceded in a race to recall him from office, and the Associated Press says a second state lawmaker who cast the same votes has lost her recall vote.

    With one of two counties completely tallied, 50.96% of voters cast ballots to remove state Sen. John Morse, a Democrat, from office and 49.04% cast ballots to keep him, according to the Colorado Secretary of State.
    So what was the nature of the gun control that he implemented, universal background checks on all gun transfers and limiting gun magazines to 15 rounds.

    Hardly sounds like exstream stuff, and does someone demonstrate how mealy mouthed people are when they suggest that gun problem in america is down to crazy and criminal people getting guns..... and then think that universal background checking is such an offensive thing.

    As for the election there were about 69k voters and the break down was about 88% could not be bothered to vote, 6% for the recall and about 6% against.
    And what will politicians learn from this, the pro gun lobby may well be a minority but they are organized enough to get their supporters out, even if they are small minority, get you recalled and get you thrown out if you do anything that might interfere with the sale of guns. As I said back in jan. Americans are quite comfortable with school massacres, easy access to guns is far more important to them. Those that care about taking practical steps to deal with the issue and will continue to care long enough for legislation to be enacted are a very small minority indeed.... most will care for a few weeks and then forget about it and move on.... if you expect the voters to save your ass from the NRA you are very much mistaken.

    Sweepstake on when the next school massacre happens in the US, anyone? bad taste yes.... but then Americans don't seem to value the lives of their children that much so should we care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
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    adios pendejos

    Maybe there is hope for America yet

    Colo. voters cast ballots to recall two lawmakers who voted for gun control.
    Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY 8:19 a.m. EDT September 11, 2013
    The Colorado state senate president who faced a backlash after casting votes for gun control has conceded in a race to recall him from office, and the Associated Press says a second state lawmaker who cast the same votes has lost her recall vote.

    With one of two counties completely tallied, 50.96% of voters cast ballots to remove state Sen. John Morse, a Democrat, from office and 49.04% cast ballots to keep him, according to the Colorado Secretary of State.
    So what was the nature of the gun control that he implemented, universal background checks on all gun transfers and limiting gun magazines to 15 rounds.

    Hardly sounds like exstream stuff, and does someone demonstrate how mealy mouthed people are when they suggest that gun problem in america is down to crazy and criminal people getting guns..... and then think that universal background checking is such an offensive thing.

    As for the election there were about 69k voters and the break down was about 88% could not be bothered to vote, 6% for the recall and about 6% against.
    And what will politicians learn from this, the pro gun lobby may well be a minority but they are organized enough to get their supporters out, even if they are small minority, get you recalled and get you thrown out if you do anything that might interfere with the sale of guns. As I said back in jan. Americans are quite comfortable with school massacres, easy access to guns is far more important to them. Those that care about taking practical steps to deal with the issue and will continue to care long enough for legislation to be enacted are a very small minority indeed.... most will care for a few weeks and then forget about it and move on.... if you expect the voters to save your ass from the NRA you are very much mistaken.

    Sweepstake on when the next school massacre happens in the US, anyone? bad taste yes.... but then Americans don't seem to value the lives of their children that much so should we care?

    Spot on Hazz.

    I guess that they are so used to massacring kids overseas that it seems just a hobby at home. What a sick society they have created for themselves.

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    Gun control is supported by over 85% (can't remember precise number) of Americans, but congress refuses to recognize them. To be precise, it should be what a sick society the NRA has created with a bought legislature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Gun control is supported by over 85% (can't remember precise number) of Americans, but congress refuses to recognize them. To be precise, it should be what a sick society the NRA has created with a bought legislature.
    Consider the congressman's point of view. he is put there by American voters and he can be removed by American voters. people who don't vote are essentially invisible to him and his career.

    Lets say you went up to him and asked why do you ignore that 85% of Americans who want gun control? he will point out to you that so many of that 85% cannot be bothered to disrupt their day to vote, that as Colorado has proved 51% of voters don't want any kind of gun control. As a career politicians who should he listen to? The people who will go to the trouble of demanding a recall vote and voting in it or the people who will stay at home and watch TV?

    the NRA doesn't even need to buy the congressmen. These congressmen know know that compared to the NRA supporters the general American politician is too apathetic to save a congressman who goes against the NRA. Its not a bought congress that's brought you this sick society, its the American people themselves.

    Its why your democracy is repeated subverted by well organized minorities taking advantage of the apathetic majority, be it resegrigating the schools, de-fluoridating the water or teaching intelligent design/creationism. You would do well either doing away with this micromanagement by voting or making all voting mandatory.
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