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    Yes Indeed Kohl was capable of anything. I remember this case as if it was yesterday, there was a huge question mark as to his political integrity The scandal that rocked the government of Helmut Kohl | Germany | DW.DE | 18.01.2010 My opinion of Kohl (and indeed many others)at the time is that he was a bent as a corkscrew . Witness's for his defence?
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    Police were braced on Saturday for a mass “party” staged by opponents of Margaret Thatcher in London’s Trafalgar Square to celebrate her death.

    Mayor of London Boris Johnson said the authorities were prepared for potential violence, after trouble erupted at several impromptu street celebrations following the death of the former British prime minister on Monday.

    Any unrest is likely to feed concerns about security at the Iron Lady’s funeral in the capital on Wednesday, which will be attended by Queen Elizabeth II, Prime Minister David Cameron and 2,000 guests, including many political and world figures.


    No formal demonstration has been organised for Saturday, but over 1,500 people have pledged on Facebook to attend a “Thatcher’s Dead” party at Trafalgar Square at 6:00 p.m. (1700 GMT).

    London braces for party to ‘celebrate’ Thatcher’s death
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
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    Glenda Jackson on Margret Thatcher
    glenda is as good at speaking as acting shite


    She could have replaced the name Thatcherism with Reagonism and been right on much of the time. I should have realized that Thatcher, being cut from the same rag as Ronnie, would close mental health health hospitals and turn patients onto the street with the promise to provide medication...then cut off funding for medication.
    Ahh well thanks to Maggie you did not have to smuggle your own hard earned money out of Britain to build your dream home in Thailand eh of course I stand corrected but I think they still have currencies restrictions here in Thailand ,that is unless your name is Thaksin
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post

    Police were braced on Saturday for a mass “party” staged by opponents of Margaret Thatcher in London’s Trafalgar Square to celebrate her death.

    Mayor of London Boris Johnson said the authorities were prepared for potential violence, after trouble erupted at several impromptu street celebrations following the death of the former British prime minister on Monday.

    Any unrest is likely to feed concerns about security at the Iron Lady’s funeral in the capital on Wednesday, which will be attended by Queen Elizabeth II, Prime Minister David Cameron and 2,000 guests, including many political and world figures.


    No formal demonstration has been organised for Saturday, but over 1,500 people have pledged on Facebook to attend a “Thatcher’s Dead” party at Trafalgar Square at 6:00 p.m. (1700 GMT).

    London braces for party to ‘celebrate’ Thatcher’s death
    like he is old enough to remember her .

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    ^ Most students, drunken or otherwise, always seem up for a party, even one in extremely bad taste

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    I have to say that during the 80's my dislike for thatcher was every bit as heart felt as that being demonstrated by mao, yaso etc. Now whilst I don't subscribe to the hypocrisy of not saying anything bad about the dead, I think one should out of basic decency and respect for the families need to grieve... one should wait until after the funeral before publicly laying into the dead. unfortunately andrew drummand is far from alone in lacking these social manners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    I have to say that during the 80's my dislike for thatcher was every bit as heart felt as that being demonstrated by mao, yaso etc. Now whilst I don't subscribe to the hypocrisy of not saying anything bad about the dead, I think one should out of basic decency and respect for the families need to grieve... one should wait until after the funeral before publicly laying into the dead. unfortunately andrew drummand is far from alone in lacking these social manners.
    Absolutely, but some people don't deserve this respect Adolf, Magarete, Joseph, etc.

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    A Millwall fan is arrested at a party to celebrate the death of the late former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher in Trafalgar Square in central London April 13, 2013.


    Ah yes, a Millwall FC fan, la creme of the British Empire. Here are the anarchists again creating mayhem (against one another would you believe) at Wembley Stadium later in the day. And they have the audacity to publicly disrepect a recently deceased former British PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
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    I have to say that during the 80's my dislike for thatcher was every bit as heart felt as that being demonstrated by mao, yaso etc. Now whilst I don't subscribe to the hypocrisy of not saying anything bad about the dead, I think one should out of basic decency and respect for the families need to grieve... one should wait until after the funeral before publicly laying into the dead. unfortunately andrew drummand is far from alone in lacking these social manners.
    Absolutely, but some people don't deserve this respect Adolf, Magarete, Joseph, etc.
    ..Reagan, Pinochet, Friedman, Franco..long list

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    ^I guess it might make sense if you completely lack any sense of proportion

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    Quite noticeable that Herman the German made no reply in defense of his hero Kohl who was up to his neck in Corruption whilst he was chancellor ,amply reported in the link in my post #76 maybe he just possibly overlooked it eh ,yeah , and before we open up with the usual crap it was Herman who brought Kohl's name into the equation not myself .
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    Quote Originally Posted by woolyback
    like he is old enough to remember her .
    But the myths about how bad Maggie was live on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by woolyback
    like he is old enough to remember her .
    But the myths about how bad Maggie was live on.
    Yep thats all they are myths, cos the UK economy was in a far better state when she left than what she inherited from the labour party in 79 ,and for those who differ please feel free to prove me wrong

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    ^ Correct Piwanoi. Harold Wilson closed more mines in the 2 terms of his office than Maggie did in her 3 terms and yet Harold Wilson is held in high regard. Thanks to the DM for that info.

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    History has already remembered Maggie and she will be remembered for a long time to come - Wilson in comparison barely gets a mention in modern studies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    ^ Correct Piwanoi. Harold Wilson closed more mines in the 2 terms of his office than Maggie did in her 3 terms and yet Harold Wilson is held in high regard. Thanks to the DM for that info.
    Yeah thanks for that correct remark Pragmatic ,Maggie did not destroy the Country she destroyed the Left and for that she will never ever be forgiven How Thatcher brought UK back from the wilderness - Telegraph

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    If she was so unpopular then why didn't it reflect that in General Elections?
    Take the myth that Thatcher was deeply unpopular. The truth is that she won 43.9 per cent of the vote in 1979, 42.4 per cent in 1983 and 42.2 per cent in 1987 – landslide results of which contemporary politicians can only dream.

    Read more: Which of these PMs sacked the most miners? (Clue: It wasn't Lady Thatcher)... The amazing facts that make a mockery of the rabble who want to wreck her funeral | Mail Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheekyman View Post
    History has already remembered Maggie and she will be remembered for a long time to come - Wilson in comparison barely gets a mention in modern studies.
    Ahh yes I remember when Wilson devalued Sterling and came out with the total crock of shit,"The pound in your pocket is still worth the same" what a J Arthur Ranker

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    I also remember that tosser Callaghan. Not much has been mention of him so a little read here will go a long way. Jim Callaghan: A Successful Prime Minister?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    If she was so unpopular then why didn't it reflect that in General Elections?
    Take the myth that Thatcher was deeply unpopular. The truth is that she won 43.9 per cent of the vote in 1979, 42.4 per cent in 1983 and 42.2 per cent in 1987 – landslide results of which contemporary politicians can only dream.

    Read more: Which of these PMs sacked the most miners? (Clue: It wasn't Lady Thatcher)... The amazing facts that make a mockery of the rabble who want to wreck her funeral | Mail Online
    If you insist on quoting the Daily Mail perhaps you should restrict your posts to the jokes section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie
    If you insist on quoting the Daily Mail perhaps you should restrict your posts to the jokes section.
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    Nice to see a Scotsman entering the debate - you should be proud Maggie gave you the privilege of getting the poll tax 1 full year before the rest of the UK.

    If you think independence would be good - I would take a close look at the absolute jokes in the SNP = Alex Salmond being head court jester. However if a lefty commie state is what you want - crack on - Facts are it just does not seem to be wanted.
    Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    ^I guess it might make sense if you completely lack any sense of proportion
    And what sense of proportion would I be missing then?

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    If she was so unpopular then how did she get such a good ranking in the top PM polls?

    Shouting loudest does not make you right.....

    Historical rankings of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    She'd only need to lift her handbag and you lot would be running for cover like the pussies you are....

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    Millwall lost a football game,and some of the fans look for a fight.(as per usual) But for the Media to turn Millwall into a Anti Thatcher protest. Beggars belief,propaganda in overdrive,Millwall are a fantastic punchbag for the Media,and morons who believe the lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    If she was so unpopular then how did she get such a good ranking in the top PM polls?
    Thatcher had the full benefit of the UK's oil money to keep her in office.

    By reducing taxes for the richest in society and by introducing the "right to buy" at the other end of the scale she was able to keep both ends of the spectrum happy.

    What she left behind was a country where instead of getting a job, saving and buying your own property, people aspire to "qualify" to rent a council house which they can later buy at a discount.

    A roaring success.
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