Thread: Margret Thatcher - devil or saint

At the end of the day Maggie publically fcuked the lefties. They were so embarrassed and humiliated that they've been waiting for the opportunity to pay her back. To have to do so at her funeral just shows you as to the level they will sink.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Pi its all over the net what she said, and under Thatcher we where so near to being a Police state, whilst many lost jobs she and her cohorts, gave the police in some instances upto 49% in wage rises, the cover ups over the years are well documented under her govt.

No doubt you remember this case were David Shayler Ex Mi5 broke the Official secrets act and got 6 months in the stir David Shayler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not at all Pragmatic i have the same disdain for most previous govts, if you look what has happened, Govts have been on the offensive, against other govts, countries regimes, and they have prospered, whilst we have become been to busy looking for the Enemy within(thatchers words)

And feeding the elite 1%

If previous govts would of wanted business, for the working man to succeed would it not of been good management to let the workers run the mines steel mills, and then if they fell flat on the faces they only had themselves to blame, whilst the govt would of got more support from such Co-ops heres one such colliery that have been successful

http://www.hargreavesservices.co.uk/...summer2011.pdf

^ Only thing I was too busy with looking for was pound notes, so I got off my arse and found them, in plentyfull supply

Originally Posted by Yasojack

If previous govts would of wanted business, for the working man to succeed would it not of been good management to let the workers run the mines steel mills, and then if they fell flat on the faces they only had themselves to blame, whilst the govt would of got more support from such Co-ops heres one such colliery that have been successful

http://www.hargreavesservices.co.uk/...summer2011.pdf

One pit can't keep a nation

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Pi its all over the net what she said, and under Thatcher we where so near to being a Police state, whilst many lost jobs she and her cohorts, gave the police in some instances upto 49% in wage rises, the cover ups over the years are well documented under her govt.

Yaso please stop writing lies. She and her cohorts never gave the police up to 49% wage rises. The figure was 45% and was was initially implimented by the Labour Party.

In 1978, the then Labour government commissioned Lord Edmund-Davies to look into police pay (writes Met Federation Chairman Peter Smyth).

He concluded that the police had been treated very poorly, suffering years of low pay awards. He recommended a new system of dealing with police pay, including an immediate 45 per cent pay rise (so low had police pay sunk) and a formula under which officers would receive rises in line with the AVERAGE pay awards for other workers.

Jim Callaghan's government agreed but decided to stagger the immediate 45 per cent increase over two years.

A few months later, Margaret Thatcher's new Conservative government came to power and immediately implemented the full increase.

MPF | Metropolitan Police Federation | News

Thatcher's "boot boys": When the unholy trinity of police, press and government took root - Comment - Voices - The Independent

Apologies it was 45% typo error

Originally Posted by Yasojack

If previous govts would of wanted business, for the working man to succeed would it not of been good management to let the workers run the mines steel mills, and then if they fell flat on the faces they only had themselves to blame, whilst the govt would of got more support from such Co-ops heres one such colliery that have been successful

http://www.hargreavesservices.co.uk/...summer2011.pdf

So what you are saying is do away away with Nationalized industry ,s and the Nanny state ,and let the Workers run them , don't think the Labour party would have agreed to that old Chap.they even objected to tenants buying their own council house ,Control from the cradle to the grave ,Socialist style .

put it this way, if the struggles would of been managed better, we could still have some of our manufacturing in place, giving the decisions and possible outcome to the people would of put everything into prospective, and possibly the country wouldn't be in the constant shit its in today.

And possibly i would be a Thatcher supporter today

Originally Posted by Yasojack

put it this way, if the struggles would of been managed better, we could still have some of our manufacturing in place, giving the decisions and possible outcome to the people would of put everything into prospective, and possibly the country wouldn't be in the constant shit its in today.

And possibly i would be a Thatcher supporter today

"If the struggles would have been Managed better " managed by who?. the bankrupt labour party of the late 70's? and the sinking ship HMS socialism , and the Winter of discontent ?, Derek Hatton and militant perhaps ,and just who are you a supporter of ?

not really see your point callaghan was going to implement the rise over two years thatcher implemented straight away and also gave the powers to be able to have unlimited amounts of overtime

The police under Thatcher became a tyrant

Duh as stated previous govts, i not support anyone.
there all one of the same.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by Yasojack

put it this way, if the struggles would of been managed better, we could still have some of our manufacturing in place, giving the decisions and possible outcome to the people would of put everything into prospective, and possibly the country wouldn't be in the constant shit its in today.

And possibly i would be a Thatcher supporter today

"If the struggles would have been Managed better " managed by who?. the bankrupt labour party of the late 70's? and the sinking ship HMS socialism , and the Winter of discontent ?, Derek Hatton and militant perhaps ,and just who are you a supporter of ?

simple question Pi your working class.

Are you happy that the working class have become poorer, and the eilte have taken all to the cleaners.??

Originally Posted by Yasojack

simple question Pi your working class.

Are you happy that the working class have become poorer, and the eilte have taken all to the cleaners.??

You will never ever make the poor rich by making the rich poor ,its been tried already in Russia and China and look were it got them. The state owned monoliths were losing millions a week kept open with borrowed and tax payers money ,the only way out of this great big heap of shit was either to privatise them or close them down ,you just cannot keep subsiding loss making business forever ,it bankrupted labour trying to do just that .

Who even mentioned making the poor rich, and the rich poorer not the question as usual you twist to suit.

in one of Thatchers conference speeches she said she wanted all to be equal, did she really say that.

^^ You write as if all utra rich people are some how elite, which is the biggest load of bollocks I am ever likely to read, what about the multi billionaire business men all over the World? many who stated of with nothing like Bill gates,Richard Branson,the face book kid,Allan Sugar,Amazon books,Google etc etc etc the list is endless who employ hundreds of thousands ,look now at China, how many multi millionaires live there and employ hundreds of thousands too,look at forbes and see how many business men are in the top bracket of wealth .

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Who even mentioned making the poor rich, and the rich poorer not the question as usual you twist to suit.

in one of Thatchers conference speeches she said she wanted all to be equal, did she really say that.

No such thing as being equal cos its total bollocks , in life same as business there will always be winners and losers and its them that shout the most about "sharing the wealth" ,why should I pull my tripes out to build a business that scratch then give in some idle prick who wants to doss around all day ,and blame "the system" .

you are taking the piss i hope, now tell me how many multi billionaires that the UK has, and we have been at the game a lot longer than most.

Trouble is we sold out whilst other countries invested in people.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

You built a business on thieving no better than a drug dealer

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Who even mentioned making the poor rich, and the rich poorer not the question as usual you twist to suit.

in one of Thatchers conference speeches she said she wanted all to be equal, did she really say that.

No such thing as being equal cos its total bollocks , in life same as business there will always be winners and losers and its them that shout the most about "sharing the wealth" ,why should I pull my tripes out to build a business that scratch then give in some idle prick who wants to doss around all day ,and blame "the system" .

Getting personal now I see cos cannot win the argument Have a look at the rich list how many so called "elite" do you see? you like millions of others "of the left" your creed is the politics of envy ,always has and always will beThe World's Billionaires List - Forbes

Not personal its the truth and you admitted the fact.

Do you know who the elite are?

If you have a closer look the worlds richest man comes from Mexico, great investor in its people hey.

Pi you live in one of the poorest parts of the NE and not even own your own home or land.

So once again show me the UKs wealthiest on the forbes rich list, remember we were the rulers of the world.

Who's a socialist or commie?

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

What is it with you hate filled, bitter Socialists / Communists ? You have had a week of dancing in the streets, having your Maggies is dead parties you have burned effigies of her in the streets, you have tried and failed as you always do to get a hate filled song to the top of the charts. you say everybody hated her yet just over 50,000 of the population bought the record but to have the disrespect to interfere with the funeral will show just how sick and twisted you lefties really are.
As said this was only to be expected from people who support a political party that is solely based on hatred, bitterness and envy.
You may not have agreed with her politics but this is the funeral of a woman that was elected as leader of the country 3 times with a huge majority. show some respect if you have any.