Thread: Mitt Romney

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

the lamestream media

You mean the right wing lamestream media. There is no "left" media on TV anymore except for MSNBC. All other formats have moved decisively to the right. They have done this to accommodate their demographic which is old, white and rightwing.

The fact is that young people do not watch broadcast nor cable news. It is only the old codgers that pay any attention to it.

With regards to Kennedy you should not even have the privilege to utter the mans name. He and his family where tireless advocates of the working class and fought endlessly for the common man regardless of whether he was rich or not.

I leave you with this...

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Off topic. Doesn't address the issue:

"Romney is Republican. Kerry and the Kennedys are Democrats. Also, Romney worked for his money. Kennedy inherited his. And Kerry married it. Minor details, eh?"

Skipped over that little bit of relevant detail did we?

I skipped over it because Romney did not earn it the good ole American way by going out and starting a company that contributes goods and services to the American people. He was a vulture capitalist who more than likely was a disruptive and negative influence on the economy of the country. Nothing more than a speculating money shifter.

I hope you enjoyed the vid above of Llyod Benson destroying your buddy Dan Quayle.

Good luck Mitty:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Reducing government deficits Mitt Romney's way would mean less money for health care for the poor and disabled and big cuts to nuts-and-bolts functions such as food inspection, border security and education.

Romney also promises budget increases for the Pentagon, above those sought by some GOP defense hawks, meaning that the rest of the government would have to shrink even more. Nonmilitary programs would incur still larger cuts than those called for in the tightfisted GOP budget that the House passed last month.

Differences over the government's budget and spiraling deficits are among the starkest that separate Republican Romney and Democratic President Barack Obama. Obama's budget generally avoids risk, with minimal cuts to rapidly growing health care programs such as Medicare and Medicaid while socking wealthier people with tax increases. It's all part of an effort to close trillion-dollar-plus deficits.

Romney, by contrast, proposes broad cuts in government spending, possibly overpromising on reductions that even a Congress stuffed with conservatives might find hard to deliver.

His campaign materials give relatively few specifics, other than a pledge to bring total government spending down to 20 percent of the U.S. economy by the end of a first term in 2016. That is roughly in line with where it was during Republican George W. Bush's presidency.

Estimates by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office put current government spending at $3.6 trillion, or about 23.5 percent of the gross domestic product this year, slipping to 21.8 percent by 2016.

The math can get fuzzy. But the Romney campaign says it needs to come up with $500 billion in cuts in 2016, the target year. Overall, Romney promises to shrink the government by about one-seventh when compared against the size of the economy.

The GOP front-runner suggests raising the Social Security retirement age and reducing cost-of-living increases for better-off retirees.

He generally endorses a plan by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., to gradually transform Medicare from a program that directly pays hospital and doctor bills into vouchers for subsidizing future beneficiaries in buying health insurance.

Because Romney promises to protect current Social Security and Medicare recipients from cuts, he cannot get much savings from those programs by 2016. Combined, they are projected to make up about 44 percent of the budget that year. Interest costs, which cannot be touched, would make up an additional 9 percent of the budget, while Romney promises to add almost $100 billion to the Pentagon budget that year, based on his pledge that military spending reach 4 percent of GDP.

So what's left to cut?

—MEDICAID: The program now provides health care for about 50 million mostly poor and disabled people, including nursing home care for 7 of 10 patients nationwide. Obama's health care law sharply would sharply boost Medicaid enrollment to cover more people above the poverty line, a move that Romney promises to repeal.

Like House Republicans, Romney promises to transform Medicaid into block grants for states and shed federal supervision of it. He would cap the program's annual growth to inflation plus a percentage point. His campaign says the approach would unshackle states to innovate and, by the end of a decade, cut costs by more than $200 billion a year.

Advocates for the poor say the inevitable result will be that millions of people will be bounced from the program. An Urban Institute study last year estimated that Ryan's cuts would force between 14 million and 27 million people off of Medicaid by 2021. Romney's budget would make deeper cuts.

—DOMESTIC AGENCY BUDGETS: If Social Security is mostly off the table and current Medicare beneficiaries are protected, domestic Cabinet agency budgets would take a major hit in ways that could fundamentally alter government. The future growth of those discretionary programs funded through annual appropriations bills was already cut greatly in last year's deal to raise the government's borrowing limit.

At issue are these programs, just to name a few: health research; NASA; transportation; homeland security; education; food inspection; housing and heating subsidies for the poor; food aid for pregnant women; the FBI; grants to local governments; national parks; and veterans' health care.

Romney promises to immediately cut them by 5 percent. But they would have to be cut more than 20 percent to meet his overall budget goals, assuming veterans' health care is exempted. It's almost unthinkable that lawmakers would go along with cuts of such magnitude for air traffic control and food inspection or to agencies like NASA, the FBI, Border Patrol and the Centers for Disease Control.

"It's just not sustainable," said GOP lobbyist Jim Dyer, a former staff director for the House Appropriations Committee. "What do you want to do with the national parks? Which ones do you want to close? ...The only way it adds up is if you go after the big, popular stuff, and nobody talks about that now."

Among the few specific cuts listed in Romney's campaign literature are proposals to cut the federal workforce by 10 percent through attrition, eliminate federal family planning money, privatize the money-losing Amtrak system and trim foreign aid.

—OTHER BENEFIT PROGRAMS: Like Ryan's budget, the Romney plan would also cut benefit programs other than Social Security and Medicare. They include food stamps, school lunches, crop subsidies, Supplemental Security Income for very poor seniors and disabled people, unemployment insurance, veterans' pensions and refundable tax credits to the working poor.

Based on the Romney materials, it's impossible to project the size of the cuts to such programs. Suffice it to say, they would be controversial.

"There's good reason why Ryan's budget and the Romney budget don't have details," said Jim Horney, a budget analyst with the liberal-leaning Center on Budget and Policy priorities think tank. "If people knew what it would actually have to be done to accomplish what they're saying should be done, it's hard to imagine there would be widespread support for it."

Just started reading the "The Real Romney" ... so far so good. I think I like this guy.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I skipped over it because Romney did not earn it the good ole American way by going out and starting a company that contributes goods and services to the American people.

And, erm, obama created what? Oh, sucking off the public teat to organize his Chicago community? Ooooh, whoopee. And, how is Chicago doing these days? And, obama's half uncle (you know, the guy who's in the US illegally for how many years and busted how many times for DUI) is still trying to get a pass like obama's illegal welfare aunty? Absolute travesty.

If these wr Bush relatives, it would be
Hypocrite lefties.

The Republicans are going to be very, very disappointed if they expect Romney to get real tough on immigration ...specifically the problem with Mexicans. "Romney" is a big name still in Mexico and good ole Mitt has a first cousin living there who he has never met. As a matter of fact Mitt Romney's Dad was born in Mexico and went on to be a three term Governor of Michigan and one time candidate for President. Besides all that he's very rich and loves cheap servants.

That explains why all of about 30% of Latino polled said they'd vote for him. Do you think Latinos will see a trade off of social services and social security for a guy who has relatives in Mexico, or that his dad was there?

Romney is looking pretty good, with wins sweeping through the east coast.
He's on a strong message about the economy much like Ronald Reagan when he obliterated Jimmy Carter.
FOX News - Top Stories - Romney wins big, promises 'Better America' as Gingrich stays aloof - Page 1 of 2

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Romney is looking pretty good, with wins sweeping through the east coast.
He's on a strong message about the economy much like Ronald Reagan when he obliterated Jimmy Carter.
FOX News - Top Stories - Romney wins big, promises 'Better America' as Gingrich stays aloof - Page 1 of 2

Romney looking good? For cinching the nomination, but that's about it - at this time.

We have 6 months to go.

The campaign for Mitt is starting in earnest. Crafting a simple message and repeating it over and over.

Sure, like other politicians, he may lift some of Reagan's soundbites as the economy was a focus in 1980 and it is in this election cycle.

I don't like BO or Romney. But I think I'd prefer Romney over BO.

Obama has turned out to be just another politicians. He ran on many messages and when in office did nothing (save health care).

Obama got a "youth" vote. But college tuition has continued to sky rocket and BO's moves have not even addresses the seriousness and depth of the issue.

Over-spending, stimulus, and using class-warfare rhetoric.

Obama is a major disappointment.

I'd like to see a different schmuck in office for the next round.

Originally Posted by barbaro

I'd like to see a different schmuck in office for the next round.

I think it's unlikely. By my calculations Obama has 208 electoral votes locked up. But according to an article on Yahoo today they have him at 247 locked up.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/y...n-outlook.html

^ 270 is needed to win.

Will Obama get FL? OH? IA? PA? VA?

Hard to say.

6 months away...inching closer.

The media will talk up Romneys chances, to sell more papers & advertising. That's their business model. But barring some 'bad news' like a double dip recession, I give Romney very little chance indeed. We'll see. The main question to me is whether the GOP can maintain a majority in the House of Congress- John Boehner recently said on Faux that he thought there was about a 30% chance they would lose it.

^ They are dead even in the polls, generally not a good sign for an incumbent.

The GOP machine is just getting revved up. I doubt any mistakes like Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin will happen this time.

Romney's message is very simple and clear, so that even the simpletons who voted Obama in 08' will understand.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Romney's message is very simple and clear

Yes it is a very short message and not surprisingly its all been said before.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I doubt any mistakes like Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin will happen this time.

I think the "mistake" this year will clearly be made by the dufus running for president not who he chooses as his VP running mate.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

the simpletons who voted Obama in 08' will understand.

They'll be sailing along the river in Egypt when Obama loses. All the voter fraud that took place when McCain ran against Obama won't be tolerated and a repeat of JFK's win in Ill against Nixon isn't in the cards this time. As you say, the GOP is revved up. Look how fast the worm turned when the Lamestream Media tried to poke fun at Romney's dog? Heh, we now know all about the dog-eater in Big White!

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Romney's message is very simple and clear

Yes it is a very short message and not surprisingly its all been said before.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

I doubt any mistakes like Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin will happen this time.

I think the "mistake" this year will clearly be made by the dufus running for president not who he chooses as his VP running mate.

Ah yes the old "you're stupid" strategy probably wont sell this time around.
The facts are pretty clear; big government is in the way and making the government even bigger isn't the solution.
American voters aren't that stupid. The messianic frenzy over BO is over. BO didn't deliver.

what's willard hiding?

The issue of tax returns has been a thorny one for Romney.

His late father, George, released 12 years worth of tax returns when he ran for president in 1968. Mitt Romney also reportedly made 20 years worth of returns available to John McCain when he was being vetted as the 2008 nominee’s potential vice presidential running mate.

Democrats have argued he should follow both examples. President Obama has already released his current returns, made them public annually throughout his presidency, and released six years worth during his 2008 race.

Brown?s tax release argument at odds with Romney?s - Boston.com

Originally Posted by sabang

I give Romney very little chance indeed.

IMHO ... Obama could screw himself if chooses to attack Romney in a way that offends independent voters. If he goes after him in any way about his faith ... I'll be turned off. I sure as hell hope Obama doesn't try to flip the script and try to use his "Christian" faith to appeal to the evangelical wackos.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by sabang

I give Romney very little chance indeed.

IMHO ... Obama could screw himself if chooses to attack Romney in a way that offends independent voters. If he goes after him in any way about his faith ... I'll be turned off. I sure as hell hope Obama doesn't try to flip the script and try to use his "Christian" faith to appeal to the evangelical wackos.

Obama will never get these evangelicals.

If the Evangelicals show up at the polls, they will plug their nose and vote for Romney.

The question is (perhaps): how many Evangelicals will show up at the polls.....

Obama will never get these evangelicals.

If the Evangelicals show up at the polls, they will plug their nose and vote for Romney.

The question is (perhaps): how many Evangelicals will show up at the polls.....

Wow!! Who would have thought of that!!

Originally Posted by barbaro

Obama will never get these evangelicals.

If the Evangelicals show up at the polls, they will plug their nose and vote for Romney.

The question is (perhaps): how many Evangelicals will show up at the polls.....

Agreed ... bunch of hypocrites in my book. How many show up might depend on the VP choice.