Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Saudi government allegedly funded a ‘dry run’ for 9/11
By Paul Sperry September 9, 2017

Fresh evidence submitted in a major 9/11 lawsuit moving forward against the Saudi Arabian government reveals its embassy in Washington may have funded a “dry run” for the hijackings carried out by two Saudi employees, further reinforcing the claim employees and agents of the kingdom directed and aided the 9/11 hijackers and plotters.

Two years before the airliner attacks, the Saudi Embassy paid for two Saudi nationals, living undercover in the US as students, to fly from Phoenix to Washington “in a dry run for the 9/11 attacks,” alleges the amended complaint filed on behalf of the families of some 1,400 victims who died in the terrorist attacks 16 years ago.
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They had trained at al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan at the same time some of the hijackers were there. And while living in Arizona, they had regular contacts with a Saudi hijacker pilot and a senior al Qaeda leader from Saudi now incarcerated at Gitmo. At least one tried to re-enter the US a month before the attacks as a possible muscle hijacker but was denied admission because he appeared on a terrorist watch list.

Qudhaeein and Shalawi both worked for and received money from the Saudi government, with Qudhaeein employed at the Ministry of Islamic Affairs. Shalawi was also “a longtime employee of the Saudi government.” The pair were in “frequent contact” with Saudi officials while in the US, according to the filings.

During a November 1999 America West flight to Washington, Qudhaeein and Shalawi are reported to have tried multiple times to gain access to the cockpit of the plane in an attempt to test flight-deck security in advance of the hijackings.

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But after the FBI discovered that a suspect in a counterterrorism investigation in Phoenix was driving Shalawi’s car, the bureau opened a counterterrorism case on Shalawi. Then, in November 2000, the FBI received reporting that Shalawi trained at terrorist camps in Afghanistan and had received explosives training to perform attacks on American targets. The bureau also suspected Qudhaeein was a Saudi intelligence agent, based on his frequent contact with Saudi officials.

More, investigators learned that the two Saudis traveled to Washington to attend a symposium hosted by the Saudi Embassy in collaboration with the Institute for Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America, which was chaired by the Saudi ambassador. Before being shut down for terrorist ties, IIASA employed the late al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as a lecturer. Awlaki ministered to some of the hijackers and helped them obtain housing and IDs.

The FBI also confirmed that Qudhaeein’s and Shalawi’s airline tickets for the pre-9/11 dry run were paid for by the Saudi Embassy.

“The dry run reveals more of the fingerprints of the Saudi government,” said Kristen Breitweiser, one of the New York plaintiffs, whose husband perished at the World Trade Center.
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After the Nov. 19, 1999, incident — which took place less than two months before the first hijackers entered the US — both Saudi men held posts as Saudi government employees at the Imam Muhammad Ibn Saudi Islamic University, the parent of IIASA — “a further indication of their longstanding ties to the Saudi government,” the 9/11 complaint states.

Carter said in an interview that the allegations that the Saudi Embassy sponsored a pre-9/11 dry run — along with charges of other Saudi involvement in the 9/11 plot, from California to Florida — are based on “nearly 5,000 pages of evidence submitted of record and incorporated by reference into the complaint.”

They include “every FBI report that we have been able to obtain,” though hundreds of thousands of pages of government documents related to Saudi terror funding remain secret.

Saudi government allegedly funded a ?dry run? for 9/11 | New York Post

Interesting that two US Presidents sat on this report, and Saudi snaps at Qatar for terror sponsoring just before it goes public.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It quickly becomes apparent that they are either nutjobs or liars.

interestingly, that's exactly what the Germans were saying when they were told of the death camps

Harry, you and your likes will eventually be classified as deniers and revisionists in history books

No, I won't Buttplug.

And frankly you're already known as a fucking idiot, so nothing will change there either.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnasty2017

Yet there's not a scratch on the bonnet.

And a guy drove up, stopped and got outta his car and helped the taxi driver lift the lamp post out of the taxi having never said a word to each other when they'd just seen, allegedly, a plane fly into the Pentagon. Seems so casual, as if it's a regular occurrence.
The person that supposedly stopped and helped the taxi driver has never come forward.

So on 9/11 he faked the damage to his taxi for what purpose? To bolster the not yet existing, false flag conspiracy theory??

^^ Welcome to the reality of human behaviour.

There are so many lyings nowadays - and always have been - some of them under oath - who cares (only some), the time will not be re-winded back.
Up to the new lies...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It quickly becomes apparent that they are either nutjobs or liars.

interestingly, that's exactly what the Germans were saying when they were told of the death camps

Harry, you and your likes will eventually be classified as deniers and revisionists in history books

No, I won't Buttplug.

And frankly you're already known as a fucking idiot, so nothing will change there either.

of course you will, you are just too short sighted to see it

Originally Posted by Rusty Rebar

So on 9/11 he faked the damage to his taxi for what purpose?

No one says he personally faked the damage. If you watch the video you'll know, but I'll help. It was to put some eye witness proof in to the direction the plane was supposedly flying. Watch the vid.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

it's not hard to believe people will stay silent,

when you have so many idiots who will call them nutters and liars if they opened their mouth

more like intimidation, like the death camps "secret" that nobody, including the victims, would dare talk about, even years after the war.

for the simplistic and revisionist minds it surely must mean it never happened

No, I'm talking about people who were involved with covering up.
Like with the BBC getting rid of footage and editing bomb sounds out. People did those things (if they happened) deliberately and on orders.

Originally Posted by jabir

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Saudi government allegedly funded a ‘dry run’ for 9/11
By Paul Sperry September 9, 2017

Fresh evidence submitted in a major 9/11 lawsuit moving forward against the Saudi Arabian government reveals its embassy in Washington may have funded a “dry run” for the hijackings carried out by two Saudi employees, further reinforcing the claim employees and agents of the kingdom directed and aided the 9/11 hijackers and plotters.

Two years before the airliner attacks, the Saudi Embassy paid for two Saudi nationals, living undercover in the US as students, to fly from Phoenix to Washington “in a dry run for the 9/11 attacks,” alleges the amended complaint filed on behalf of the families of some 1,400 victims who died in the terrorist attacks 16 years ago.
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They had trained at al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan at the same time some of the hijackers were there. And while living in Arizona, they had regular contacts with a Saudi hijacker pilot and a senior al Qaeda leader from Saudi now incarcerated at Gitmo. At least one tried to re-enter the US a month before the attacks as a possible muscle hijacker but was denied admission because he appeared on a terrorist watch list.

Qudhaeein and Shalawi both worked for and received money from the Saudi government, with Qudhaeein employed at the Ministry of Islamic Affairs. Shalawi was also “a longtime employee of the Saudi government.” The pair were in “frequent contact” with Saudi officials while in the US, according to the filings.

During a November 1999 America West flight to Washington, Qudhaeein and Shalawi are reported to have tried multiple times to gain access to the cockpit of the plane in an attempt to test flight-deck security in advance of the hijackings.

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But after the FBI discovered that a suspect in a counterterrorism investigation in Phoenix was driving Shalawi’s car, the bureau opened a counterterrorism case on Shalawi. Then, in November 2000, the FBI received reporting that Shalawi trained at terrorist camps in Afghanistan and had received explosives training to perform attacks on American targets. The bureau also suspected Qudhaeein was a Saudi intelligence agent, based on his frequent contact with Saudi officials.

More, investigators learned that the two Saudis traveled to Washington to attend a symposium hosted by the Saudi Embassy in collaboration with the Institute for Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America, which was chaired by the Saudi ambassador. Before being shut down for terrorist ties, IIASA employed the late al Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as a lecturer. Awlaki ministered to some of the hijackers and helped them obtain housing and IDs.

The FBI also confirmed that Qudhaeein’s and Shalawi’s airline tickets for the pre-9/11 dry run were paid for by the Saudi Embassy.

“The dry run reveals more of the fingerprints of the Saudi government,” said Kristen Breitweiser, one of the New York plaintiffs, whose husband perished at the World Trade Center.
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After the Nov. 19, 1999, incident — which took place less than two months before the first hijackers entered the US — both Saudi men held posts as Saudi government employees at the Imam Muhammad Ibn Saudi Islamic University, the parent of IIASA — “a further indication of their longstanding ties to the Saudi government,” the 9/11 complaint states.

Carter said in an interview that the allegations that the Saudi Embassy sponsored a pre-9/11 dry run — along with charges of other Saudi involvement in the 9/11 plot, from California to Florida — are based on “nearly 5,000 pages of evidence submitted of record and incorporated by reference into the complaint.”

They include “every FBI report that we have been able to obtain,” though hundreds of thousands of pages of government documents related to Saudi terror funding remain secret.

Saudi government allegedly funded a ?dry run? for 9/11 | New York Post

Interesting that two US Presidents sat on this report, and Saudi snaps at Qatar for terror sponsoring just before it goes public.

Scenario: Cheney et al (I'd say Village Idiot Bush was mainly kept out of the loop) have a deal with the Saudis. We want a small attack to scare and thus unite the country so we can go into Afghanistan. Saudi supplies the guys but they have their own agenda and opportunistically make it a big attack.
It doesn't fit in with all the deliberate destruction evidence, I know, but there does seem to be some connection.

The people in the loop would certainly cover that up.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Saudi supplies the guys but they have their own agenda and opportunistically make it a big attack.

Agreed, but the Israelis planned it and planted the explosives in the buildings. The firm 'Urban Moving Systems' provided the logistics for the operation.

http://911research.wikia.com/wiki/Urban_Moving_Systems

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by Rusty Rebar

So on 9/11 he faked the damage to his taxi for what purpose?

No one says he personally faked the damage. If you watch the video you'll know, but I'll help. It was to put some eye witness proof in to the direction the plane was supposedly flying. Watch the vid.

Sorry about that, I was confused about the point.
Good video, the old guy seems like he would love to just say the truth, but he is clearly afraid to do so. Seems like he is tired of the act.

Yes I agree and I think he was roped into the event by his wife who worked for the FBI.

The full articles is well worth a read irrespective of your leaning.

Given long-standing Israeli interest in destabilizing if not toppling the regimes of some neighboring countries, and a group of neoconservative American/Israeli dual citizens in the White House committed to a foreign policy intended to benefit Israel, the question is whether the 9/11 attacks might have been an Israeli operation disguised to look as though others were responsible. This practice is known as a “false flag operation,” dating back to a time when one ship would attack another flying the flag of its enemy so as to hide the true nature of the situation. Governments around the world have planned and/or carried out a large number of false flag attacks over the years, many of which were intended to provide a pretext for subsequent military action. One rather notorious example is the Israeli attack on the American naval vessel USS Liberty in 1967. While the Israelis apologized, saying it was a mistake, and the U.S. government essentially accepted their explanation and let the matter rest, some people still believe it was a false flag attack that Israel intended to blame on Egypt as a way to bring the U.S. into the Six Day War.

A number of researchers have come to the conclusion that Israel – in particular, its intelligence service Mossad– was also involved in the planning and execution of the false flag 9/11 attacks. For example, in his book Solving 9/11: The Deception that Changed the World, Chrisopher Bollyn details Israeli connections to a number of different aspects of the story, many of which are also covered at the crowdsourced website wikispooks.com. Nicholas Kollerstrom summarizes “seven pillars” of the argument that Israeli agents were involved, including the role of PNAC and the neocons, the story of the dancing Israelis, and Larry Silverstein’s links to pro-Israel organizations and to Netanyahu personally. He also points to the part played by a number of Israeli intelligence-espionage companies, as well as the active presence of an Israeli spy ring that was operating in the U.S. in 2001. Soon after the attacks, Justin Raimondo began reporting about these spies, who had been rounded up as persons “of special interest to the government” but then “expelled for routine visa violations,” i.e., quietly allowed to return to Israel, with the story subsequently “classified” by the government and ignored by the media.

Another of the pillars identified by Kollerstrom is “Zakheim and his missing trillions.” Dov Zakheim, the American/Israeli dual citizen who is credited with writing the line about the “new Pearl Harbor” in the PNAC report, was the Comptroller of the Department of Defense from May 2001 until March 2004, and thus the person in charge of the Pentagon’s finances when Rumsfeld announced that $2.3 trillion of defense spending could not be tracked. Even more intriguing is the fact that Zakheim had previously been an executive in a company called Systems Planning Corporation, which is a leading designer of airborne remote control technology. Based on careful analysis of video footage of Flight 175 hitting the south tower, and in light of the very precise maneuvering of both that plane and Flight 77 prior to making contact with targeted spots on the buildings, some people suspect that the planes involved in the attacks were being remotely controlled. Since Zakheim had access to a number of Boeing 767s, remote control technology, and the missing $2.3 trillion, it has been suggested that he is the real mastermind behind 9/11.

https://bedrosian.usc.edu/blog/counterpoint/911-truth/

Now watching a documentary about 9/11 on history channel. Very very interesting.

Originally Posted by moonx

Now watching a documentary about 9/11 on history channel. Very very interesting.

And the link is?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

yes harry, this area is not safe for Indians

you better fuck off while you can

Personally I will take time during today's anniversary to remember the victims of this infamous day, rather than using the time to come up with more inane bullshit which essentially demeans their memory and insults the families that lost loved ones.

Obviously it would be nice if you could suspend your bottom feeding for a day.

it looks like a tower in fire, how appropriate indeed

it's to honor those who died in vain to serve the agenda of the evil Bush administration that we should ask again more questions this time about what really happened

the usual cowards can go back to sleep and celebrate on TV the anniversary

That monument isn't correct. Draw a vertical line from the furthest corner to the one at the bottom and it doesn't match up. Shit Mexican builders I suppose?

Thanks to the many posts I've just seen remembering 9/11 it's amazing how many people from all over the world who aren't even Yankees recall their memories of that day.

Originally Posted by wasabi

it's amazing how many people from all over the world who aren't even Yankees recall their memories of that day.

Not amazing. The hype was huge. Over 3000 Americans died.
When twice that number die elsewhere, it's just 3rd world citizens and not worth the hype.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by wasabi

it's amazing how many people from all over the world who aren't even Yankees recall their memories of that day.

Not amazing. The hype was huge. Over 3000 Americans died.
When twice that number die elsewhere, it's just 3rd world citizens and not worth the hype.

Where 'elsewhere' and when have 6000 or even 3000 died in a single attack on civilian buildings in a major city?