Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by Gilbert

That's just my thoughts on it and I don't think that makes me a conspiracy theorist; just a bloke who think the US government are a bunch of corrupt liars (dem or Gop - all the same) and they never fail week by week to prove me right in this assertion.

That's fair enough but its insanity to think the USA Government could actually pull off a crime of that level and it to remain secret all these years later.

Many people would of needed to be in on the gig and humans being humans the gig would of been out by now.

Of course it would of.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Up to you if you believe it.

I don't. What about the families that received the calls and spoke to there loved ones in real time. ?

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

C'mon genius, tell us, what happened to the missing planes and their passengers and crew?

This is the one question where all the conspirator tossers simply will never adress also the fact that humans can never keep a secret quiet for too long.

In Davy Jones' Locker, probably in a shipping container, that same day -- followed by some cadaver or a wrapped up life-like statue of Ronald McDonald alleged to be Osama bin Laden some years later.

^

Fuk, I'd believe that before any of Mad Uncle ENT'S bolliks.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Up to you if you believe it.

I don't. What about the families that received the calls and spoke to there loved ones in real time. ?

With the exception of the AA flight attendant, the 'real time' conversations seemed to be nonsensical and not real conversations - "What should I tell the pilot?", "let's roll" etc..

^

Makes sense,

I suppose one would be battling to talk sense when you where preparing to die and had just witnessed hijackers offing people.

Now I'm confused.

Conclusions: The argument that the phone calls are faked because cell phone calls are impossible from moving airplanes is discredited by this new evidence.
Note that the body of evidence taken from the phone calls at large DOES NOT support the government's story of 19 Arab hijackers. The phone calls indicate hijackers with knives; but they do not show the hijackers to be Arabs-- only persons who may have been impersonating Arabs. The phone calls also show evidence that the hijackers were armed with guns as well, pointing to a far more sophisticated conspiracy than the al-Qaeda operatives of the official story.

Phone Calls From the Planes: Surprising New Evidence | 911Blogger.com

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

First, that it is impossible to make cell phone calls from the altitudes the planes were flying.

Impossible, eh? Are you quite sure about that? At what altitude is exactly is it "impossible" to make a cell phone call?

What the conspiracy theorists seem to like to ignore is that the FACT that the majority of the calls came from AIRPHONES, you know, those phones you find in the seatback or armrest of most modern commercial jets.

The calls that came over cell phones were made when the aircraft were already at very low altitude.

Testimony at the Moussaoui trial explained that the vast majority of Flight 93 calls (this flight had more calls than any other) were made this way. The list was Lauren Grandcolas (airphone); Mark Bingham (airphone); Joseph DeLuca (airphone); Linda Gronlund (airphone); Jeremy Glick (airphone); Todd Beamer (airphone); Sandra Bradshaw (airphone); Thomas Burnett Jr (airphone and probable cellphone); CeeCee Lyles (airphone and cellphone); Marion Britton (airphone); Honor Wainio (airphone); Waleska Martinez (airphone).



Ah, never let those pesky FACTS get in the way of a nice tinfoil hat conspiracy theory

Well to begin with, it's not true that most were on airphones. Second (most of your links don't work) the conversations were not recorded and the people on the ground who received the calls were recalling what loved one's said - but the conversations were not a back and forth dialogue - they were one-way info from the 'passengers' with replies to questions from loved ones like "you must be strong" and "I will respect your decisions" etc. "There are three my size - I can probably take the guy with the bomb" What can you do? "I have a bread knife from breakfast." Not back and forth in a real type of discussion

Originally Posted by terry57

That's fair enough but its insanity to think the USA Government could actually pull off a crime of that level and it to remain secret all these years later.

Many people would of needed to be in on the gig and humans being humans the gig would of been out by now.

Of course it would of

Not really. In fact in an organisation where people basically follow orders and do not questions things because it is enforced into them that they need to work in secret and discuss nothing (like for example, a secret service does) you could pull it off with only one person knowing the full picture. His second line of management would each be given separate instructions and jobs to do, each working in isolation and not realising that it was more than just them. They in turn have pods of other people who do what they are told, and do not see the whole picture and never put two and two together. Say for example, just the two planes that hit the towers. One man at the top decides that is the plan and has at his disposal a small group of people who do what they are told. One of them has a task to get onto two planes and install a bit of software that will direct the planes to a beacon. They are told it is a new landing system they are trialling. Another has the task of installing a beacons in each of the towers. They are told it is an earthquake detection system being trialled. Another has had the task of selecting a load of muslims to take flight lessons, see them all through that, and get them booked onto certain flights perhaps being told they were on a selection trial from their Saudi partners. These muslims only know they have hit the jack pot with free holidays and flight lessons for some strange reason they will not question. So on the given day, the muslims get on the planes, the man at the top counts the seconds and flicks the switches pulling the planes into the tower. Only one man knows, and he was running late to the party he had planned and invited everyone to at the top of the twin towers, a couple of floor above the transmitter. He was lucky not to be there, but there again, he never was going to be.

That's how you do it. Is it that hard?

Originally Posted by ENT

What wheel are you on about Terry?

If you'd take off your blinders for a sec you might become aware of the 767 landing gear that landed near the corner of Rector and West Side Highway-


Seen by thousands, photographed and videoed by hundreds, but somehow you've never heard of this before? Head in the sand or what?

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Impossible, eh? Are you quite sure about that? At what altitude is exactly is it "impossible" to make a cell phone call? What the conspiracy theorists seem to like to ignore is that the FACT that the majority of the calls came from AIRPHONES, you know, those phones you find in the seatback or armrest of most modern commercial jets. The calls that came over cell phones were made when the aircraft were already at very low altitude. Testimony at the Moussaoui trial explained that the vast majority of Flight 93 calls (this flight had more calls than any other) were made this way. The list was Lauren Grandcolas (airphone); Mark Bingham (airphone); Joseph DeLuca (airphone); Linda Gronlund (airphone); Jeremy Glick (airphone); Todd Beamer (airphone); Sandra Bradshaw (airphone); Thomas Burnett Jr (airphone and probable cellphone); CeeCee Lyles (airphone and cellphone); Marion Britton (airphone); Honor Wainio (airphone); Waleska Martinez (airphone). Ah, never let those pesky FACTS get in the way of a nice tinfoil hat conspiracy theory

Originally Posted by terry57

Fuk, I'd believe that before any of Mad Uncle ENT'S bolliks.

Thanks for playing Terry

Originally Posted by Gilbert

I really can not be bothered to get in an argument with this tony character

don't bother mate he's an obvious shill.

"Let's Roll" or is that "Let the good times roll"

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by ENT

What wheel are you on about Terry?

If you'd take off your blinders for a sec you might become aware of the 767 landing gear that landed near the corner of Rector and West Side Highway-


Seen by thousands, photographed and videoed by hundreds, but somehow you've never heard of this before? Head in the sand or what?

Of course it was seen and photographed by thousands, but I bet not one of them admits to seeing the blokes that put it there!

..Or the other one "found" years later wedged between two buildings..

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

..Or the other one "found" years later wedged between two buildings..

^ what about it?

fvck off tony you shill.

^ Didn't you start this sorry excuse for a thread?

Does it hurt your wee little feelings when folks a bit smarter than you poke holes in your silly conspiracy theories.

Are you gonna man up and defend your "theory" or spit the dummy and flounce?

Originally Posted by leemo

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by ENT

What wheel are you on about Terry?

If you'd take off your blinders for a sec you might become aware of the 767 landing gear that landed near the corner of Rector and West Side Highway-


Seen by thousands, photographed and videoed by hundreds, but somehow you've never heard of this before? Head in the sand or what?

Of course it was seen and photographed by thousands, but I bet not one of them admits to seeing the blokes that put it there!

When you say "the blokes that put it there" are we to assume you're talking about the hijackers who flew the planes into the WTC towers or are you one of those conspiracy nuts who believes no planes hit and it's all just doctored video, fabricated evidence and a mass hallucination?

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

^ Didn't you start this sorry excuse for a thread?

Does it hurt your wee little feelings when folks a bit smarter than you poke holes in your silly conspiracy theories.

Are you gonna man up and defend your "theory" or spit the dummy and flounce?

Yes toni, i did start this thread.

Hurt my "wee feelings"

If one fvcker smarter then me points out things i always adapt.

when dumb corporate sell out buttercups such as yourself get involved you always have to get called.

and toni, stop giving out reds ya little biatch. man up

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by ENT

What wheel are you on about Terry?

the 767 landing gear that landed near the corner of Rector and West Side Highway-


Seen by thousands, photographed and videoed by hundreds,

What 767 are you on about?

That landing gear was never identified, it could have come from any aircraft scrap yard dealing in such Boeing second hand junk .

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Gilbert

That's just my thoughts on it and I don't think that makes me a conspiracy theorist; just a bloke who think the US government are a bunch of corrupt liars (dem or Gop - all the same) and they never fail week by week to prove me right in this assertion.

That's fair enough but its insanity to think the USA Government could actually pull off a crime of that level and it to remain secret all these years later.

Many people would of needed to be in on the gig and humans being humans the gig would of been out by now.

Of course it would of.

Absolutely! Look how quickly the story of Osama's take out mission came out and those were sworn secret military... There was a movie less then a year after the mission. Think of the profit to be made if there was even 1 person who could make that claim and prove it and there would be far more than one...

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by leemo

Originally Posted by TonyBKK

Originally Posted by ENT

What wheel are you on about Terry?

If you'd take off your blinders for a sec you might become aware of the 767 landing gear that landed near the corner of Rector and West Side Highway-


Seen by thousands, photographed and videoed by hundreds, but somehow you've never heard of this before? Head in the sand or what?

Of course it was seen and photographed by thousands, but I bet not one of them admits to seeing the blokes that put it there!

When you say "the blokes that put it there" are we to assume you're talking about the hijackers who flew the planes into the WTC towers or are you one of those conspiracy nuts who believes no planes hit and it's all just doctored video, fabricated evidence and a mass hallucination?

Tony, Leemo is using this................ .............. He just figured his position was well enough known that it would be understood without the icon..