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    ^^ Snap, beat me to it!

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    he does tend to take things at face value without understanding that some people may have deeper and more intricate thoughts

    that is the trouble with forums, the need to spell everything out so that no misunderstanding occurs, and that is not worth the trouble

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    Atta (blue shirt) and Omari at Portland International Jetport, passing through security on the morning of 9/11

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    ^ Clearly identifiable.

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    could be anybody,

    didn't we find his passport at the bottom of the WTC 1 ?

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    Undamaged too.

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    must be one of those overwhelming evidence the US government is so famous for

    didn't they also find his DNA in the remains of the tower ?

    the lies dumb people will swallow is just too funny for words

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    could be anybody,

    didn't we find his passport at the bottom of the WTC 1 ?
    Passport made of paper.........a 1000 degree fire which was ablaze for days.......fire burns paper ............can you take it from there ?

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    I think they found the passport 20min after the first tower was crashed into,

    now if that's not fine investigative police work, then I don't what is

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    what about those CCTV footage at the Pentagon parking lot ? all gone missing within 20min of the crash,

    again, some fine government reaction in a time of cahos. They knew where the priorities were, obviously saving people was not one of them

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    ^^^ Don't ask stoopid questions, ....u not supposed to know....

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    I know, I know, their minds go into overdrive and are ready to explode, and then reboot unexpectedly like a bad version of Windows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    must be one of those overwhelming evidence the US government is so famous for

    didn't they also find his DNA in the remains of the tower ?

    the lies dumb people will swallow is just too funny for words
    An example of why you are so confused and misguided:
    If DNA of Atta wasnt found at WTC , you would say that this is proof of him not being there , and if Attas DNA was actually found at WTC, you again would say that this shows that his DNA must have been planted there by the CIA .
    In your mind, you want to believe that Atta wasnt there , and you dismiss any evidence that shows that he was actually there .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    If DNA of Atta wasnt found at WTC , you would say that this is proof of him not being there
    oh no, priceless, mind going into overdrive

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    The answers MAY lie here :

    Personal Effects and the Crash-Proof Passport - 911myths




    Especially this bit :

    "We've no doubt there were many other items recovered that haven't been detailed online, and so it's hard to see why Suqami's passport might not also have survived. Explosions are chaotic events: you can't reliably predict what might happen. By way of an example, consider this story from the Columbia Space Shuttle disaster. The craft broke up on re-entry, 40 miles about the earth, and debris fell over a wide area. Amongst this was one of the experiments involving tiny worms.
    The worms and moss were in the same nine-pound locker located in the mid-deck of the space shuttle. The worms were placed in six canisters, each holding eight petri dishes. The worms, which are about the size of the tip of a pencil, were part of an experiment testing a new synthetic nutrient solution. The worms, which have a life cycle of between seven and 10 days, were four or five generations removed from the original worms placed on Columbia in January.
    http://web.archive.org/web/200305061...ms_030501.html

    Remarkably, not only were the canisters retrieved, but the worms were still alive (the above link tells you more). Who would have believed that? Not the scientist in charge of the experiment, who said in the same story:
    ``It's pretty astonishing to get the possibility of data after all that has happened, Sack said. ``We never expected it. We expected a molten mass.

    In fact if we wanted to start a “Columbia space shuttle crash never happened” conspiracy site then that would make great “evidence”, because it goes against what you’d expect. And that’s a great quote, too. But then maybe intuition doesn’t tell the whole story, and more can survive explosions than you think".

    .................................................. ............

    Hijacker Satam al Suqami's passport, slightly charred, was found in the World Trade Centre rubble within minutes or hours of the hijackings. The contradictory nature of the news reports on its discovery imply an evolving spin operation. But the various claimed locations of the passport's descovery offer a great potential for analysis, and it is fascinating to consider the passport tale in some detail, Investigation of factors such as air resistance and the fireballs' blast wave will enable evaluation of how thoroughly each 'discovery' claim may be debunked. The 9-11 commission staff statement reports that "four of the hijackers' passports have survived in whole or in part". Two were said to have been recovered from the UA93 crash site in Pennsylvania, one was from a hijacker on AA11 (Satam al Suqami) and one (Abdul Aziz al Omari) was found in luggage that did not make it from the connecting flight Portland to Boston on to AA11. ABC News reported the alleged discovery of the Suqami passport on September 12. Days later other outlets such as CNN on September 16 and 17 reported that Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik had said on Sunday (the 16th) that a passport belonging to one of the hijackers was discovered a few days ago by a passer-by, several blocks from the crash site. The FBI would not release the name on this mystery passport, leading to speculation that a second passport had been found at the WTC ruins. Some reports (e.g. the Guardian) claimed that it belonged to Mohamed Atta, the infamous ringleader.
    Last edited by Latindancer; 25-09-2013 at 06:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke
    In your mind, you want to believe that Atta was there , and you dismiss any evidence that shows that he wasn't actually there .
    fixed it for you, sheep

    now go back to eating grass,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    could be anybody,

    didn't we find his passport at the bottom of the WTC 1 ?
    Passport made of paper.........a 1000 degree fire which was ablaze for days.......fire burns paper ............can you take it from there ?
    Come on then, tell us how that passport survived that horrendous fire and explosion, how it flew out of pocket/suitcase/whatever and just landed there in the street, and, and, and.......

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    ^^^ Desperate,.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    could be anybody,

    didn't we find his passport at the bottom of the WTC 1 ?
    Passport made of paper.........a 1000 degree fire which was ablaze for days.......fire burns paper ............can you take it from there ?
    Come on then, tell us how that passport survived that horrendous fire and explosion, how it flew out of pocket/suitcase/whatever and just landed there in the street, and, and, and.......
    Attas passport was never found though .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post

    Come on then, tell us how that passport survived that horrendous fire and explosion, how it flew out of pocket/suitcase/whatever and just landed there in the street, and, and, and.......

    Tell us how the worm experiment survived the Columbia shuttle disaster, dimwit. A rocket ship exploding 40 miles above the earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Fella View Post
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    The alleged hijacker flying the plane like a fighter ace is the same as being told that a man who has failed his driving test twenty times has just got into Sebastian Vettels red bull racing car and beaten his best lap record by a huge margin.
    You fcukers crack me up as the amount of BS you just soak up is laughable.

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    I'm not American, you fucking retard.

    There's no need to get personal.

    American you may not be but to defend this BS makes you IN MY OPINION a blinkered halfwit.
    I notice you again fail to answer any of the other questions I posed ?
    Answer me just the one then ?
    Why isn't there a SINGLE CCTV image of any of the so alleged hijackers boarding their respective planes ?
    That one thing tells me the whole thing is BS from the off.
    I see you have all totally ignored
    OPERATION NORTHWOOD AS WELL
    I wonder why ?
    You ignore confirmed statements just so you can cling onto your ridiculous theory.

    I see another poster has already posted the video.

    5:43 a.m. September 11, 2001: 9/11 Hijackers Check in at Portland Airport; Atta Becomes Angry with Ticket Agent Michael Tuohey.
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    9/11 hijackers Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari check in at the US Airways counter at Portland International Jetport. [PORTLAND PRESS HERALD, 10/5/2001; FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, 10/5/2001] They are wearing ties and jackets. Atta checks in two bags, Alomari none. Atta is randomly selected for additional security scrutiny by the FAA’s Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System (CAPPS) (see (6:20 a.m.-7:48 a.m.) September 11, 2001). However, the only consequence is that his checked bags will be held off the plane until it is confirmed that he has boarded. [9/11 COMMISSION, 7/24/2004, PP. 1; 9/11 COMMISSION, 8/26/2004, PP. 2 pdf file; CNN, 3/3/2006] Noting that their flight is soon due to leave, the ticket agent who checks them in, Michael Tuohey, says, “You’re cutting it close.” [PORTLAND PRESS HERALD, 3/6/2005] Tuohey thinks the pair seems unusual. He notices they both have $2,500 first-class, one-way tickets. He later comments, “You don’t see many of those.” Atta looks “like a walking corpse. He looked so angry.” In contrast, Tuohey will say, Alomari can barely speak English and has “a goofy smile, I can’t believe he knew he was going to die that day.” Tuohey will later recount, “I thought they looked like two Arab terrorists but then I berated myself for the stereotype and did nothing.” [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 2/24/2005; MIRROR, 9/11/2005; CNN, 3/3/2006] Atta becomes angry when Tuohey informs him he will have to check in again in Boston. He complains that he was assured he would have a “one-step check-in.” [9/11 COMMISSION, 8/26/2004, PP. 2 pdf file; ASSOCIATED PRESS, 3/7/2005] Tuohey will be recalled to work later in the day to speak to an FBI agent about his encounter with Atta and Alomari. He is shown video footage of them passing through the airport’s security checkpoint upstairs (see (Between 5:45 a.m. and 5:53 a.m.) September 11, 2001). Although recognizing the two men, he notices that in the video they are no longer wearing the jackets and ties they’d had on when checking in just minutes before. He assumes they must have taken these off and tucked them into their carry-on baggage. He is also informed that the security camera behind his own desk, which should have captured the two hijackers, has in fact been out of order for some time. [PORTLAND PRESS HERALD, 3/6/2005; CNN, 3/3/2006]
    I suppose that never happened either, did it?


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    ^^ Hey, yer red herring might enjoy the worms, but ya still can't explain how a passport survived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    could be anybody,

    didn't we find his passport at the bottom of the WTC 1 ?
    Passport made of paper.........a 1000 degree fire which was ablaze for days.......fire burns paper ............can you take it from there ?
    Come on then, tell us how that passport survived that horrendous fire and explosion, how it flew out of pocket/suitcase/whatever and just landed there in the street, and, and, and.......

    Perhaps you should watch that fucking documentary, dickhead. The title might give away the answer.

    Ah, but then again, you'd have to come up with a whole new set of bizarre theories.



    Added: Seriously, watch it. Even with your warped sense of perspective you might still get something out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    ^^ Hey, yer red herring might enjoy the worms, but ya still can't explain how a passport survived.
    Attas passport didnt survive though, it was never found

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    You ignore confirmed statements just so you can cling onto your ridiculous theory.

    I see another poster has already posted the video.

    5:43 a.m. September 11, 2001: 9/11 Hijackers Check in at Portland Airport; Atta Becomes Angry with Ticket Agent Michael Tuohey.
    [Source: CNN]

    9/11 hijackers Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari check in at the US Airways counter at Portland International Jetport. [PORTLAND PRESS HERALD, 10/5/2001; FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, 10/5/2001] They are wearing ties and jackets. Atta checks in two bags, Alomari none. Atta is randomly selected for additional security scrutiny by the FAA’s Computer Assisted Passenger Prescreening System (CAPPS) (see (6:20 a.m.-7:48 a.m.) September 11, 2001).

    What? Checked by security? They find nothing? No box cutters? Wellwell, good grief etc.

    However, the only consequence is that his checked bags will be held off the plane until it is confirmed that he has boarded. [9/11 COMMISSION, 7/24/2004, PP. 1; 9/11 COMMISSION, 8/26/2004, PP. 2 pdf file; CNN, 3/3/2006] Noting that their flight is soon due to leave, the ticket agent who checks them in, Michael Tuohey, says, “You’re cutting it close.” [PORTLAND PRESS HERALD, 3/6/2005] Tuohey thinks the pair seems unusual. He notices they both have $2,500 first-class, one-way tickets. He later comments, “You don’t see many of those. ” Atta looks “like a walking corpse. He looked so angry.” In contrast, Tuohey will say, Alomari can barely speak English and has “a goofy smile, I can’t believe he knew he was going to die that day.” Tuohey will later recount, “[B]I thought they looked like two Arab terrorists [/B] Wow!!!

    but then I berated myself for the stereotype and did nothing.” [PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS, 2/24/2005; MIRROR, 9/11/2005; CNN, 3/3/2006] Atta becomes angry when Tuohey informs him he will have to check in again in Boston. He complains that he was assured he would have a “one-step check-in.” [9/11 COMMISSION, 8/26/2004, PP. 2 pdf file; ASSOCIATED PRESS, 3/7/2005]

    Tuohey will be recalled to work later in the day to speak to an FBI agent about his encounter with Atta and Alomari. He is shown video footage of them passing through the airport’s security checkpoint upstairs (see (Between 5:45 a.m. and 5:53 a.m.) September 11, 2001).

    Although recognizing the two men, he notices that in the video they are no longer wearing the jackets and ties they’d had on when checking in just minutes before.

    He assumes they must have taken these off and tucked them into their carry-on baggage.

    He is also informed that the security camera behind his own desk, which should have captured the two hijackers, has in fact been out of order for some time. [PORTLAND PRESS HERALD, 3/6/2005; CNN, 3/3/2006]


    You call that reliable evidence harry?

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