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    Before and after aerial views.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Steel beams were hurled laterally whole city blocks away from the towers by the force of the explosion
    Of course, that kind of traumatic and nearly explosive shrapnel would *never* damage anything close by, like.... WTC7.

    Oh, look, it's our friends from 911myths.com:

    WTC7 Damage

    Oh my, that certainly looks like some significant amount of debris hit the SOUTH SIDE of the WTC7 building.





    Uh oh:

    ...Captain Varriale told Chief Coloe and myself that 7 World Trade Center was badly damaged on the south side and definitely in danger of collapse. Chief Coloe said we were going to evacuate the collapse zone around 7 World Trade Center, which we did.
    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110462.PDF
    Not looking good for ENT, is it...?

    Yep, sure looking like a pristine, undamaged building:


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    Of course, as usual, ENT provides no commentary to faceless and unattributed pictures (that, I might add, don't link because he doesn't know how to).

    It's okay, just use mine :-)

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    Market Watch. The Wall St Journal
    July 9th 2012


    PRESS RELEASE
    May 22, 2012, 5:45 p.m. EDT
    Expert Group Rejects World Trade Center Reports

    BEVERLY HILLS, Calif., May 22, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- ENGINEERS POINT TO EVIDENCE OF SCIENTIFIC FRAUD

    CALL FOR INDEPENDENT 9/11 INVESTIGATION


    Documentary World Premiere -- FINAL EDITION

    "9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out"


    If you thought that the fires at the World Trade Center twin towers, set off by the horrific jetliner impacts of September 11, 2001, were the cause of the destruction of those iconic skyscrapers, you may be mistaken. Experts now cite evidence showing that high-temperature incendiaries and explosives were planted throughout the twin towers and the lesser-known 47-story Building 7, also destroyed later the same day.

    So says a group of architects and engineers nearly 1700 strong, represented by Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth and the director/producer of a new documentary. Two years in the making, the documentary "9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out - FINAL EDITION " officially debuted today, with a red carpet treatment and press conference at the Beverly Music Hall, after a preliminary showing yesterday in San Diego's Joyce Beers Center.

    Famed actor Ed Asner, host and narrator of AE911Truth's micro-documentary "Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7," joined Gage at the Beverly Hills kickoff and helped introduce the film. Also lending some star power to the Beverly Hills opening night was veteran Hollywood actor John Heard. High-rise architect Robert McCoy, one of the respected building professionals featured in Experts Speak Out, also attended the opening.

    A variety of special guests will appear with Gage at other premiere locations across the country, including experts featured in the film, family members of 9/11 victims, and prominent public figures who support 9/11 Truth. Mechanical engineer Tony Szamboti and 9/11 family member Bob McIlvaine, who made headlines with their explosive 9/11 interview by Geraldo on Fox News in 2010, will attend the premiere screening in Philadelphia on June 25.

    The film features 43 experts in building engineering, physics, chemistry, and other technical fields, plus a half-dozen psychologists who discussed ...
    Expert Group Rejects World Trade Center Reports - MarketWatch
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    ^ Looney Tunes and The Mincing Prancer must be bricking it

    And Moonraker mate, stop "Ugh, Aghh, Go on'ing" and listen to a few experts (before you go and write another 500 words about how useful a cheese grater is )

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    WTC 7 is the red coloured building on the right.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Steel beams were hurled laterally whole city blocks away from the towers by the force of the explosion
    Of course, that kind of traumatic and nearly explosive shrapnel would *never* damage anything close by, like.... WTC7.
    Pancake collapse because steel beams popped?

    Bolix!

    The buildings exploded!


    Look at that great chunk of steel being flung out sideways by explosive force,in the centre of the picture
    Look at the steel columns of the tower to the right of the collapsing concrete, just above WTC 7.

    They did not melt.
    Last edited by ENT; 09-07-2012 at 07:28 PM.

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    ^^Nice Shot
    What happened to that skinny building on the left?

    Don't tell me - it was fine.


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    Jewish Groups Grab Huge Share of Grants

    Almost All Homeland Security Grants Go to Jewish Non-Profits


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    Risky Business: Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano defends the controversial grant program, saying Jews face special risks.


    By Josh Nathan-Kazis

    Published July 05, 2012, issue of July 13, 2012.

    Jewish institutions throughout the United States will receive $9.7 million in federal anti-terrorism grants this year out of a total of $10 million allocated to not-for-profit institutions by the Department of Homeland Security.

    That’s $6 million less than last year. But thanks to sharp cuts this year in the overall pool of money available through this program, the percentage of funds going to Jewish groups has nevertheless jumped substantially.

    A full 97% of the available funds in the Non-Profit Security Grant Program for 2012 have been allocated to Jewish organizations, compared with 73% that went to Jewish groups from 2007 through 2010. In 2011, Jewish groups received about 80% of NSGP funds.

    The NSGP has disproportionately benefited Jewish groups since 2005, when it was first instituted.

    Related“Unfortunately there are risks attendant on the Jewish community that are not attendant on all other communities,” DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said in an interview with the Forward in early June, weeks before the new allocations were announced.

    The allocations in the security grant program fund security enhancements for not-for-profit institutions to defend against terrorism.

    The DHS announced the grants as part of a larger $1.3 billion package of so-called preparedness grants. The 2012 allocations include $97 million for port security and $87 million to protect transit systems.

    The $10 million NSGP allocation this year represents a drastic cut from the $19 million the program disbursed in 2011.

    As the Forward reported last September, there’s nothing in the law authorizing the program that says it should benefit Jews specifically. But several factors, including community education regarding the program and its grant application process, have combined to help Jewish groups in particular to benefit from it.

    Previously, regulations governing the allocation of the NSGP grants favored religious recipients over nonreligious. This year, that changed. According to Homeland Security documents, preferred recipients are now defined as those that have “the highest risk of terrorism-related activity due to their ideology, beliefs and mission.” But this did not have a negative impact on Jewish groups’ share of the program money available, even as the overall sum in absolute dollars decreased.

    As in previous years, Orthodox Jewish groups appear to have done better than non-Orthodox Jewish groups.

    A list of grant recipients released by the DHS did not specify how much each organization received. But program guidelines cap the funds provided for each project at $75,000.

    Chabad, the ultra-Orthodox Hasidic group that runs outreach organizations targeting non-Orthodox Jews around the world, did particularly well. At least 35 of the 2012 grantees were linked to Chabad, out of 109 recipients overall.

    Only a handful of the 109 NSGP recipients were not Jewish. A church in San Diego received an allocation, as did a Planned Parenthood center in Washington and a Catholic church in New York City.

    In her interview with the Forward, Napolitano said that she saw no problem with the overwhelming proportion of NSGP funds going to Jewish groups.

    “The fact that it ends up going to many Jewish organizations doesn’t in itself bother me,” Napolitano told the Forward, saying that she thought the program had been successful.

    William Daroff, the Jewish Federations of North America’s vice president for public policy, said that the program’s allocations do not reflect political favoritism towards the Jewish community. “This is not pork,” he said. “This is Homeland Security officials making decisions based on threat levels.”

    Jewish Groups Grab Huge Share of Grants


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    ^just when we're getting somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post


    Look at that great chunk of steel being flung out sideways by explosive force,in the centre of the picture
    Look at the steel columns of the tower to the right of the collapsing concrete, just above WTC 7.

    They did not melt.
    You previously said thermite was used to CUT the building's beams so it collapsed. Not that explosives were used to explode the whole damn
    building !
    Yes, the chunks of steel are being impinged on by great force. One might almost call it explosive force. Almost.
    But you have no real understanding of physics, so we'd better not challenge you too much.

    "They did not melt" ? Well, der ! This is a laughably stupid statement. No one has said all the buildings beams melted. In fact we have continually said they were weakened by fire, causing the collapse.
    You're still trolling/stupid/being obtuse.

    Show us a shot of the DAMAGED side of WTC7, on the side facing the two towers. Dickhead.
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    The only damage sustained by building WTC 7 is shown in these, the only two pics.

    Both the images are contained in NIST's slide presentation entitled: Project 6: WTC 7 Structural Fire Response and Collapse Analysis. They are the only two images provided to support NIST's conclusion that Building 7 sustained severe structural damage from the collapse of the North Tower. The first shows a large gash in the building's southwest corner extending from the 18th floor downward, and the second shows damage to the parapet wall at the top of the south-facing facade.









    The admittedly minor damage to the parapet wall appears to be the only evidentiary basis for NIST's claim of a huge gash in the middle of the south facade, since no photographs show this damage.

    WTC7.net the hidden story of Building 7: Claims of Severe Damage to Building 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post

    I thought you said thermite was used
    Careful Prancer, your guise is slipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    ^^Nice Shot
    What happened to that skinny building on the left?

    Don't tell me - it was fine.


    That was damaged but stable.

    The building in front of it was WTC 4.
    This is how it ended up.



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    Looks like a VERY large chunk of building missing in the big photo, mate ! Ooh, and look....surprise...blackened areas showing fire damage

    Careful Albert, your ignorance and lack of education has been showing for a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Looks like a VERY large chunk of building missing in the big photo, mate !
    Excellent work!

    If you chop a tree at the right of its base - which way will it fall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    You previously said thermite was used to CUT the building's beams so it collapsed. Not that explosives were used to explode the whole damn building !

    Yes, the chunks of steel are being impinged on by great force. One might almost call it explosive force. Almost.
    But you have no real understanding of physics, so we'd better not challenge you too much.


    Show us a shot of the DAMAGED side of WTC7, on the side facing the two towers.
    You find one fuckwit. And WTF do you mean by "impinged on", dumb tefler?

    It was explosive force, not "almost explosive you ignorant little animal.
    I also said that the place was blown up using thermite.

    Thermite can cut and it can explode.

    Thermite explosion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Market Watch. The Wall St Journal
    July 9th 2012


    PRESS RELEASE
    May 22, 2012, 5:45 p.m. EDT
    Expert Group Rejects World Trade Center Reports

    BEVERLY HILLS, Calif., May 22, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- ENGINEERS POINT TO EVIDENCE OF SCIENTIFIC FRAUD

    CALL FOR INDEPENDENT 9/11 INVESTIGATION


    Documentary World Premiere -- FINAL EDITION

    "9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out"


    If you thought that the fires at the World Trade Center twin towers, set off by the horrific jetliner impacts of September 11, 2001, were the cause of the destruction of those iconic skyscrapers, you may be mistaken. Experts now cite evidence showing that high-temperature incendiaries and explosives were planted throughout the twin towers and the lesser-known 47-story Building 7, also destroyed later the same day.

    So says a group of architects and engineers nearly 1700 strong, represented by Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth and the director/producer of a new documentary. Two years in the making, the documentary "9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out - FINAL EDITION " officially debuted today, with a red carpet treatment and press conference at the Beverly Music Hall, after a preliminary showing yesterday in San Diego's Joyce Beers Center.

    Famed actor Ed Asner, host and narrator of AE911Truth's micro-documentary "Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7," joined Gage at the Beverly Hills kickoff and helped introduce the film. Also lending some star power to the Beverly Hills opening night was veteran Hollywood actor John Heard. High-rise architect Robert McCoy, one of the respected building professionals featured in Experts Speak Out, also attended the opening.

    A variety of special guests will appear with Gage at other premiere locations across the country, including experts featured in the film, family members of 9/11 victims, and prominent public figures who support 9/11 Truth. Mechanical engineer Tony Szamboti and 9/11 family member Bob McIlvaine, who made headlines with their explosive 9/11 interview by Geraldo on Fox News in 2010, will attend the premiere screening in Philadelphia on June 25.

    The film features 43 experts in building engineering, physics, chemistry, and other technical fields, plus a half-dozen psychologists who discussed ...
    Expert Group Rejects World Trade Center Reports - MarketWatch
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    This is from the preliminary NIST report showing where the damage occurred to WTC 7.


    Debris Damage from WTC 1

    After WTC 1 collapsed:
    Heavy debris on Vesey Street and WTC 7 Promenade
    No heavy debris observed in lobby area, white dust coating
    SW Corner Damage -- floors 8 to 18
    South face damage between two exterior columns - roof level down 5 to 10 floors, extent not known
    South Face Damage
    middle 1/4 - 1/3 width south face, 10th floor to ground
    large debris hole near center around 14th floor
    1/4 width south face, above 5th floor, atrium glass intact
    8th/9th floor from inside, visible south wall gone with more damage to west, 2 elevator cars dislodged into elevator lobby
    WTC7.net the hidden story of Building 7: Claims of Severe Damage to Building 7


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    "9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out"



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    WTC 7 before demolition.

    WTC 5 and 6 are the smashed up ones in front of it.


    Last edited by ENT; 09-07-2012 at 08:27 PM.

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    WTC 3, the one between Towers 1 and 2.

    You'd think it would have been flattened completely if chunks of concrete fell on it, but only powder fell on it and steel tore into it.





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