Thread: 9/11 was an inside job

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

the charges were in the basement

OMG!

Did you ever see the videos of the towers falling?

What is so difficult to understand?

That momentum was impossible from the few floors above. Only way would be to take out the underneath , then the weight would have been enough to keep the momentum going. I did also say that there were charges all the way up to just below the plane impact. There had to have been charges all the way up - as otherwise there would have been no squibs.

That's poor form (if it's the Mods) maybe it's the way you are embedding?

Takeovers - you're a smart guy. Don't discount the idea of knocking out lower floors. Think about common sense and what a few floors of heavy concrete could do, especially when one tower had the top actually fall over to the side (and not press down). Not much.

Think back to the Kennedy assassination. People believed the story that one guy pumped two shots (from different angles ) into JFKs head within seconds. The shooter was quickly caught "a communist" of course, who was then himself publicly killed by a mobster. People are now believing the 9/11 story. Why? And given the Kennedy experience - "why not?"

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Basic facts:

Planes full with Kerosene fuel did slam into both of the Twin Towers.

Anybody who looks at the Twin Towers falling with open eyes and a clear mind can see the collapse started exactly where those fires were raging. That excludes even the most remote possibility of foul play like explosives.

Basic facts.

The planes were not full of kerosene, only approximately half full at best because;
a) commercial aircraft don't carry full tanks because of the weight versus payload factor, only enough to get from point A to point B with some extra for safety.
b) if the air traffic controller's information is correct, the two planes involved had already travelled a circuitous route (aprox 300 miles) before turning back to NY and crashing into the Twin Towers.

If the planes were as large as Boeing 767 with a 7,600 mile air range, they could carry approx 23,000 gallons when full. But they weren't full according to FEMA, because the distance from NY to LA is 2,445 miles, so only one third of the fuel (8,000 galls + safety ) was carried. The planes travelled approx 300 miles each in a circuitous route from Boston to NY, so had used approx 1/8th of the fuel, leaving a maximum fuel load of approx 7 < 8,000 gallons in each plane upon impact.

More than half of that fuel would have been vapourised on impact and consumed in the initial fireball, leaving the rest to either flow away, evaporate or continue burning as a diffused flame in an enclosed, oxygen poor environment of an office building, evidenced by the black smoke of unburnt hydrocarbon (kerosene) pouring from the building.

Survivors from the impact floor talk of the fires as burning for 10 -20 minutes, which is consistent with a pool of kerosene on the office floor burning off. They were close enough to the flames to see part of the aircraft wing and to feel the heat and some to be burnt.
None spoke of a raging inferno, but of thick black smoke and darkness and no air, again consistent of a low oxygen environment

The maximum temperature possible for a diffused flame kerosene fire is no more than 250C (max 800C at perfect kerosene/oxygen balance) and one burning for a maximum of 20 minutes could in no way get hot enough to buckle or melt the surrounding steel structure, even adding the office equipment and paper to the fire. The walls and ceilings were of plaster board fastened to light wooden and aluminium framing, the floors of synthetics over concrete. Insulayion was spwayed over the metal framing just prior to 9/11.
Altogether very little combustible material was available to create any form of enormous fires on the impact floors nor above them.

The smoke emitted from the tower is of four colours, black, brown, grey and white.
The black smoke indicates a hydrocabon fire such as jet fuel or oil. This is then followed by grey smoke from synthetics buning and white smoke which comes when water vapour inherent in the structure starts to escape.
Brown smoke usually comes next as the wood framing bursts into flame, and temperatures increase to their maximum and any black smoke is burnt up with it, often showing as bright glows in the smoke cloud as combustible gases given off from any materials present ignite.
By then, no white smoke is to be seen, as all water vapour will have been driven off long before.

Any continuing black smoke fires after the initial fireball and kerosene fire is indicative of another fuel source other than bthe initial jet fuel.

Any bursts of white smoke seen after that point are due to secondary explosive outbreaks not due to water, wood, oil or any other flammable material other than chemical compounds known to do so.

One such compound is thermite and it's sulphur enhanced form thermate, both of which burn with a bright white light emmitting white smoke.

The collapse started with a black smoke explosion accompanied by a fireball, indicating a secondary fuel source, followed by black smoke explosions proceeding downwards below the collapsing floors above them. White smoke explosions in a line at the impact floor level and preceding the floors collapsing above them indicate non-carbon based explosions such as thermite cutting charges.

All the above is obvious from the videos and survivor accounts of the fire.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

What happened to the un detonated charges in the White House and Capitol?

(Notice how they are "skillfully" ignoring that question? Again. It's like a repeat of the "what happened to crews and passengers?" question)

"What happened to the un detonated charges in the White House and Capitol?"

Who said that? - when.?
No one on this thread has mentioned what you just said - so what the fuck are you talking about you 20 faced demon?

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Here, pay attention in future. https://teakdoor.com/2163001-post1859.html

Originally Posted by Cthulhu

^ Yep, no one noticed it - because they were top black-ops operatives.

Don't you know anything?????

And when they were done, the gov't killed everyone.

That's how it must have been. :-)

So, what happened to those unused demolition explosives in the White House and the Capitol Building? They must still be there, right?